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    Originally Posted by vhd16 View Post
    Tx. I have a similar problem as the gym is in the basement and all the openings are not more than 34" even the hatch to the basement. So any wielded rack is out of question.

    Btw, I am also looking to upgrade the rack. There was thread by Mech6 that had listed all the essentials needed for a rack. I have the list but cannot seem to find the thread again. Only new thing is Keyhole .

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    1. quick change safeties
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    19. stable enough on it's own without bolting down
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    24. flexibility - easy to add-on
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    Originally Posted by Synthetickiller View Post
    When I noticed that the plate was welded to the gusset, I just thought... really?
    Just to finish up on this, I wonder if they'll offer a version where the xmember flanges are horizontal. So it can be mounted in middle of rack. Another disadvantage of not being bolt-on


    Originally Posted by Nebamartinez View Post
    But thankfully Rogue is finally taking steps to add more options for their rack. Keyhole attachments would be cool.
    I think they've forgotten about those
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    Visited Rogue at the FIBO today.
    Impressed with the curl bar, I have to say.

    Also, the Russian bar is a thing of beauty. The spin was so incredibly smooth:
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    russian bar is so epic but a high price
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    Originally Posted by jusefali View Post
    russian bar is so epic but a high price
    I completely agree...I'd be very curious how many they've sold, if any?
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    It's one of the, if not the, prettiest bar I've ever seen.
    $770, ugh. Is the bar actually worth $770?
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    Originally Posted by Synthetickiller View Post
    It's one of the, if not the, prettiest bar I've ever seen.
    $770, ugh. Is the bar actually worth $770?
    My informant at Rogue said it was likely the best thing they had built. I'm assuming it was a straight copy of the Eleiko Powerlock. If the locking collar is anything like the Eleiko Powerlock, I'd say it should be a pretty cool bar.
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    Been hoping one would end up in the Boneyard. There has gotta be one that has a slight cosmetic defect, right?!?
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    May be it will be on BF sale this year. One can always hope.
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    That Russian bar needs stainless steel, bushings, and a 29mm shaft.

    Then I will buy one...maybe.
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    That Russian bar needs stainless steel, bushings, and a 29mm shaft.
    I think the locking system has less benefit for powerlifting.
    Plus, I think that the thin competition plates would sit horribly on those grooves.
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    Originally Posted by shizzlebeans View Post
    Been hoping one would end up in the Boneyard. There has gotta be one that has a slight cosmetic defect, right?!?
    Possibly. I've seen the Euro a handful of times in the boneyard - grabbed one myself.
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    Originally Posted by Synthetickiller View Post
    It's one of the, if not the, prettiest bar I've ever seen.
    $770, ugh. Is the bar actually worth $770?
    I agree on the hotness of that thing. $770 sounds high, but for their top of the line bar, it's not bad when you compare it to Eleiko prices.
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    Originally Posted by vsral View Post
    I think the locking system has less benefit for powerlifting.
    Plus, I think that the thin competition plates would sit horribly on those grooves.
    Yeah, seems like you'd have to be using a bunch of 45s or 55s to really make proper use of it. In other words, I don't need one.
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    Originally Posted by shizzlebeans View Post
    Been hoping one would end up in the Boneyard. There has gotta be one that has a slight cosmetic defect, right?!?
    I'd be shocked if they've sold very many. To have a defect would mean they've had several runs of the bar. I can't see them getting out of their first production batch which was likely demo bars anyway. The price is high. People who are considering that bar will opt to spend the extra couple hundred and get the Eleiko, I already know two who considered it and opted Eleiko. If it was SS instead of chrome, they could possibly have more sales, but as currently constructed, I see this bar being discontinued.
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    Just wanted to throw this out there for information, the rogue mini deadlift jack has a 2" space for the bar, so it easily accommodates a fat bar (such as the iron mind apollon axle). Maybe other mini jacks do as well, but it's the first time I tried mine with the fat bar today.
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    This is the 3rd bar I've gotten from Rogue via closeout/boneyard. On all of them, I can barely find any imperfections. I wouldn't hesitate to order from the Boneyard again.

    This time, I got the stainless steel Ohio bar. I'm trying to sell my Ohio Deadlift Bar and wanted a more multi-purpose bar. And wanted SS...just because. Knurling is great. My favorite knurling ever has been a bare steel bar (Rogue OLY bare steel) and now this stainless bar...just great grip and feel. It will be hard for me to consider a plated bar in the future.


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    Nice looking bar - congrats! Even like the plates. Had some in black myself but had so much trouble with them it was crazy.
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    Originally Posted by dragon360 View Post
    Nice looking bar - congrats! Even like the plates. Had some in black myself but had so much trouble with them it was crazy.
    What was your trouble? These GPI plates are not so nice - they were kind of a throw-in on a deal. 4 of the 6 plates have cracked hubs, so they are my sled plates. However, I just sold all my bumpers, so I'm using the 2 uncracked ones right now on the ground.

    I really would like to get a pair of 25kg/55lb bumpers and some more iron 45s. I had a full kg comp set with kg change plates...so I had to keep it intact when i sold it - but I wish I could've kept the 25kg pair.
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    No cracked hubs but the lots of issues with the rubber. Getting soft or literally melting off the plate. Seems there was some issue with the manufacturer at one time.
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    Originally Posted by Bench905 View Post
    This is the 3rd bar I've gotten from Rogue via closeout/boneyard. On all of them, I can barely find any imperfections. I wouldn't hesitate to order from the Boneyard again.

    This time, I got the stainless steel Ohio bar. I'm trying to sell my Ohio Deadlift Bar and wanted a more multi-purpose bar. And wanted SS...just because. Knurling is great. My favorite knurling ever has been a bare steel bar (Rogue OLY bare steel) and now this stainless bar...just great grip and feel. It will be hard for me to consider a plated bar in the future.
    Good info on the Boneyard bars. I've had my eye on that Stainless bar, but really hadn't heard much feedback on it here. I really need a good all-purpose bar, and that might just be the one.. I was looking at the bare steel Castro bar (I've owned it in the past), but may upgrade to the stainless Ohio just to avoid some of the the bare steel maintenance.
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    I don't have any of these specialty bars, nor do they interest me...... but notice Rogue released one with knurled handles. Not really sure if knurled vs smooth really makes a difference, but it's out there now.



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    Originally Posted by rpark View Post
    I don't have any of these specialty bars, nor do they interest me...... but notice Rogue released one with knurled handles. Not really sure if knurled vs smooth really makes a difference, but it's out there now.



    I've only used my unknurled Edge FBall bar for press movements and don't see a need for knurling. if I used it for pull movements I would certainly prefer the knurling.
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    Did Rogue just start adding knurling to their swiss bars? I thought all these various specialty bars had knurling. IIRC Stasher1 bought a ~$100 barbells4me swiss bar that has knurled grips.
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    Originally Posted by BYOBB View Post
    Did Rogue just start adding knurling to their swiss bars? I thought all these various specialty bars had knurling. IIRC Stasher1 bought a ~$100 barbells4me swiss bar that has knurled grips.
    It's been out for maybe 6 months? I forget. Almost all the swiss bars on the market do not have knurling - EFS, BWTG, Edge. Never heard of barbells4me.
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    Originally Posted by cwcmac View Post
    I've only used my unknurled Edge FBall bar for press movements and don't see a need for knurling. if I used it for pull movements I would certainly prefer the knurling.
    Seems like a nice upgrade for me, not "needed" for presses but still nice, if using the Swiss bar for rows it seems like gold.
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    Barbells4Me is/was selling stuff cheap on Amazon. It looked like Chinese-made knockoffs.

    I can't see any great need for knurling on a Swiss/Football bar.....I've never attempted any sort of pulling movements with mine, but I can't imagine my lower back would be able to handle any weight that would be big enough to really need knurled grips.
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    Originally Posted by rpark View Post
    I don't have any of these specialty bars, nor do they interest me...... but notice Rogue released one with knurled handles. Not really sure if knurled vs smooth really makes a difference, but it's out there now.
    I've had issues in the past w/ my swiss bar falling out of my hands when using bands or chains, but only rarely with straight weight. WIthout chalk, it has become a nightmare. It's one of the few bars I really need chalk with lighter weights to avoid injury.
    If I had to buy one today, I'd probably buy the Rogue version & take a chance. As someone who owns a swiss bar, I'd really like to know if the knurling compares to the OPB or just the OB.
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    Originally Posted by rlundregan View Post
    Barbells4Me is/was selling stuff cheap on Amazon. It looked like Chinese-made knockoffs.

    I can't see any great need for knurling on a Swiss/Football bar.....I've never attempted any sort of pulling movements with mine, but I can't imagine my lower back would be able to handle any weight that would be big enough to really need knurled grips.
    Since I bought one of those BB4Me bars when they when on sale, I can say that the added knurl is nice. While it's not a necessity, it's nice to have and easier to get a good grip on the bar.
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    I just received the new Rogue HG 2.0 collars.. will test them out later today. Quick impressions are they are a nice improvement.. they feel much more substantial and well made. The lever does have a little play when closed, which will likely cause some noise/clicking when a bar is dropped. Not a big deal but my older version didn't do that. Rubber on inside looks like a solid upgrade and these shouldn't slide at all on the bar.

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