Rogue Barbell Club

[Bench905]

I think the 20 lb difference comes from having Schedule 80 pipe instead of Olympic sleeves. So it will be similar to most specialty bars from other places.

Ah, so solid steel sleeves vs. hollow pipe sleeves. You think they would drop the price then? Seems like a total cost cutting move. Original is now in closeout marked down to $275: http://www.roguefitness.com/tb-1-rogue-trap-bar

[Mech6]

Ah, so solid steel sleeves vs. hollow pipe sleeves. You think they would drop the price then? Seems like a total cost cutting move. Original is now in closeout marked down to $275: http://www.roguefitness.com/tb-1-rogue-trap-bar

They did add a second pair of handles on the new version. However, I agree that the big cost cut for them is not having to machine down the sleeves anymore. They probably could of kept the price similar. Raising it seems a bit too much.

[C123C]

I don't have much since I'm a college student and already made a lot of sacrifices to own these stuff on my own when I could be using the university's gym, but here goes.

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Rack: Rogue Monster Lite SML-1 with SAML-1 Spotters , Rogue SPX rack.
Bar: Rogue 2.0 Bar

Anddddd that's pretty much all I own from Rogue , unless I spray paint "Rogue" on my platform and Troy plates as well haha.

Your setup is rock solid. You can do all the truly important stuff right there.

Your investment will last you and be functional for a lifetime or certainly you will recover a good amount if you choose to swap things out. No reason to whatsoever but maybe you want to go full rack at some point or get the half rack expansion kit and get some plate storage and pullup bar. Hell, I have some time and experience under the bar. I've spent nearly 25 years lifting and have known/trained with people at top national and even world level (I'm not at that level and do it for general fitness now). I have what most would consider a good career and enough funds that I can buy pretty much whatever I want (limit being basement ceilings, space and my own sense of price/value). I own the same squat rack, safeties, and went Ohio bar for no real reason and I'm sure the 2.0 would be fine for my needs - I talked myself down from an Eleiko Comp bar as I don't have room for full OLs where I am now. Couldn't be happier with them. I have a dip station, adjustable bench, reverse hyper and a rower too but the SML-1 and safeties are the core.

I envy the setup you have, all to yourself at your age, and the sacrifice you made to obtain it at a point in your life when funds are generally tight. Quality rack, bar, platform...People who know what they are doing look at this and think, "Guy has his **** squared away."

[Forcep]

Bud. You doing great. You are hitting the major compound lifts with body weight assistance. That's all you need. Especially at your age. I wish I focused on the compound lifts when I was younger and not the isolation movements. I learned to do things right later in life. And you are starting with nice stuff.

Nice job on DL platform.

Thanks! Now I just need to invite some of my friends over and get a big white board to have some competition going on.

[Bench905]

They did add a second pair of handles on the new version. However, I agree that the big cost cut for them is not having to machine down the sleeves anymore. They probably could of kept the price similar. Raising it seems a bit too much.

The second pair of handles is on the TB-2 Trap Bar which is $345. I was comparing the TB-1 to the TB-1 2.0 which look REALLY similar and retail price is the same ($295). They are closing out the TB-1 1.0 so they dropped that to $275.

I think the only differences are these:

TB-1 2.0
New Schedule 80 Pipe Sleeves: 1.91” in diameter (Oly-compatible) with 16” of loadable length
Bar Weight (Unloaded): 58 LBS

TB-1
Olympic sleeves
Weight: 80LB (unloaded)

[Mech6]

The second pair of handles is on the TB-2 Trap Bar which is $345. I was comparing the TB-1 to the TB-1 2.0 which look REALLY similar and retail price is the same ($295). They are closing out the TB-1 1.0 so they dropped that to $275.

I think the only differences are these:

TB-1 2.0
New Schedule 80 Pipe Sleeves: 1.91” in diameter (Oly-compatible) with 16” of loadable length
Bar Weight (Unloaded): 58 LBS

TB-1
Olympic sleeves
Weight: 80LB (unloaded)

Ok, sorry, I missed that one. I agree with your assessment. Not having machined sleeves should lower the cost.

[p3nt4g0n]

The second pair of handles is on the TB-2 Trap Bar which is $345. I was comparing the TB-1 to the TB-1 2.0 which look REALLY similar and retail price is the same ($295). They are closing out the TB-1 1.0 so they dropped that to $275.

I think the only differences are these:

TB-1 2.0
New Schedule 80 Pipe Sleeves: 1.91” in diameter (Oly-compatible) with 16” of loadable length
Bar Weight (Unloaded): 58 LBS

TB-1
Olympic sleeves
Weight: 80LB (unloaded)

Another difference, which I really don't understand, is the TB 2.0 is not rackable compared to the TB-1 that is. Found out when I recently got mine and tried to rack in the j-cups. Rogue has since changed the description on their website.

[SmokinJoe87]

Another difference, which I really don't understand, is the TB 2.0 is not rackable compared to the TB-1 that is. Found out when I recently got mine and tried to rack in the j-cups. Rogue has since changed the description on their website.

Really? The description still says they "carried over the same dimensions and rack-compatible design of the original TB-1."

This "update" isn't making much sense to me.

[p3nt4g0n]

Yep, the weird thing is, it seems as if I, the customer, brought that to their attention. I would assume a company as big as Rogue would test out their products before putting them in production/selling them. I have a Monster Lite rack and the corners of the hex actually sit in the j-cups when racking, making it not rackable (won't spin). The inside of my rack is 43" between both posts, the body of the bar(hex) is 44" from corner to corner.

[mrcheeze36]

I saw that today...price doesn't really make sense considering the composite bushing should be cheaper than the bronze bushing. Unless someone NEEDS the WS name on their bar or has an infatuation with green, you gotta go OPB.

Someone also asked on their FB post what's the advantage over the OPB to warrant the extra cost. Rogue didn't really answer the question (just pointed out the bushing and zinc color differences).

[Mech6]

Someone also asked on their FB post what's the advantage over the OPB to warrant the extra cost. Rogue didn't really answer the question (just pointed out the bushing and zinc color differences).

Black zinc is more expensive than clear (silver) zinc. At least around here. Not sure how much more the composite bushings are, since the spread of bushing prices is huge. As an example, a 1"IDx1"long bushing (sleeve bearing) can range from $2 to $80 depending on what it's made of.

[Cleveland33]

Black zinc is more expensive than clear (silver) zinc. At least around here. Not sure how much more the composite bushings are, since the spread of bushing prices is huge. As an example, a 1"IDx1"long bushing (sleeve bearing) can range from $2 to $80 depending on what it's made of.

so I am not the only one that those were the answers?

[Mech6]

so I am not the only one that those were the answers?

This is just my reasoning. Never asked rogue about it. But if those are their answers, I sort of understand.

[thejosef]

Pretty nice looking power bar. I wish it was black oxide instead of zinc though.. I'd be tempted if the price were a little closer to the OPB. That raw steel version is such a great bar at $250.

[845ToastT]

If you compare the pictures, the opb and westside bar have different knurl patterns. The westside bar looks more aggressive. Like thejosef said, I also wish the westside bar was black oxide instead of black zinc. I have the Ohio bar in black oxide and like it a lot.

[Bench905]

I'm not a fan of black zinc. As least when bright zinc wears, it wears to a similar color. My black zinc sleeves aren't looking that great after 2 years.

I think I'm going hard chrome on my next bar.

[TipsyBanker]

If you compare the pictures, the opb and westside bar have different knurl patterns. The westside bar looks more aggressive. Like thejosef said, I also wish the westside bar was black oxide instead of black zinc. I have the Ohio bar in black oxide and like it a lot.

When I asked Rogue about this, they said the OPB is more aggressive:

[Tipsy],

OPB is slightly more aggressive.

Regards,

kim

[Insaneurge]

Does this qualify me for the rogue barbell club? My new setup pics ht tp://imgur.com/a/yS2gv

Take out the space in http for photos.

[mrcheeze36]

Does this qualify me for the rogue barbell club? My new setup pics http://imgur.com/a/yS2gv

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[845ToastT]

When I asked Rogue about this, they said the OPB is more aggressive:

Interesting. I thought the knurl looked flatter on the opb, but I can't truly tell from the pictures. I would have to handle both side by side.

[Mechanon84]

Rogue just updated the ML safety straps, they look much more user friendly now. I might have to upgrade my SML-2 to a 390F on black Friday.
http://www.roguefitness.com/monster-...ety-system-2-0

Man sorinex really got the jump on them with their strap design. Beauty in simplicity.

[vsvs]

which bar has the least aggresive knurling? i prev had a rogue bar 1.0 and found it to be too sharp

doesnt have to be a rogue barbell

[TipsyBanker]

which bar has the least aggresive knurling? i prev had a rogue bar 1.0 and found it to be too sharp

doesnt have to be a rogue barbell

Probably a weightlifting/olympic bar, as they need the less aggressive knurling for their lifts as opposed to a power bar. Then there are the "multipurpose" bars that are somewhere in the middle. The CAP OB-86B I have has very light knurling (compared to my OPB) that is still grippy.

[Vmango]

which bar has the least aggresive knurling? i prev had a rogue bar 1.0 and found it to be too sharp

doesnt have to be a rogue barbell

You found the Rogue Bar 1.0 too sharp? Really? It's one of the softest/passive knurls out there!

[Stasher1]

You found the Rogue Bar 1.0 too sharp? Really? It's one of the softest/passive knurls out there!

LMAO.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[dragon360]

You found the Rogue Bar 1.0 too sharp? Really? It's one of the softest/passive knurls out there!

Okay - thought it was just me here. Totally bizarre.

[omega329]

Ohio 29mm 45lb Power Bar Raw / Bright (closeout)
So my Closeout Ohio Power Bar came in the mail today, as warned there are no marked end caps, no rust nothing crazy.
Knurling looks solid, but doesn't look like they even tried to clean it off because I had to remove some brown chalk or dirt.
The sleeves where the plates slide onto look normal, however the sleeve guards ||==== , the || looks to have a pattern of indentations on both sides (Imagine taking a hammer to a piece of wood) I don't know if this is a machining defect, the bar was dropped, or however they store the bars this bar was at the bottom of the stack.
I paid 212$ for a 250$ bar. I don't really baby my equipment so i'm fine with the imperfections, and I am a student on a budget so saving 35$ was meh, but that is 35$ towards something else, if you have the $$, just buy new.
Packaging was solid, but leave instructions for the UPS guy on your door because it looks like he just threw it down and left it hit the side of house leaving a nice little scratch in the paint.

[SmokinJoe87]

Ohio 29mm 45lb Power Bar Raw / Bright (closeout)
So my Closeout Ohio Power Bar came in the mail today, as warned there are no marked end caps, no rust nothing crazy.
Knurling looks solid, but doesn't look like they even tried to clean it off because I had to remove some brown chalk or dirt.
The sleeves where the plates slide onto look normal, however the sleeve guards ||==== , the || looks to have a pattern of indentations on both sides (Imagine taking a hammer to a piece of wood) I don't know if this is a machining defect, the bar was dropped, or however they store the bars this bar was at the bottom of the stack.
I paid 212$ for a 250$ bar. I don't really baby my equipment so i'm fine with the imperfections, and I am a student on a budget so saving 35$ was meh, but that is 35$ towards something else, if you have the $$, just buy new.
Packaging was solid, but leave instructions for the UPS guy on your door because it looks like he just threw it down and left it hit the side of house leaving a nice little scratch in the paint.

How much was shipping compared to that of a new bar? IE- what was the total savings including shipping over buying a new bar?

With the higher shipping costs of closeout bars, my total savings is only $30. Not really enough for me to consider a closeout bar.

[Bench905]

Does this qualify me for the rogue barbell club? My new setup pics ht tp://imgur.com/a/yS2gv

Sweet setup! #38

I don't have much since I'm a college student and already made a lot of sacrifices to own these stuff on my own when I could be using the university's gym, but here goes.

Nice! #39

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#39 - Forcep
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#65 - dragon360
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[Ex-Terminator]

I might as well contribute to the thread. I just bought the Ohio Power Bar in Black Zinc and it's excellent. My only criticism is that the center knurling might be just a bit too aggressive during squats so I may have to wrap it. Overall, though, it's fantastic.