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    Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Junk science gets traction and makes it into the mainstream media more often than not. The "sting" was done to drive traffic to the authors page and make a name for himself I suppose, which is fine. Not the first time someone has exposed that junk science is common and often quoted, nor will it be the last. I have been exposing junk science in the supp/nutri/health area for decades now.

    As there's a plethora of solid studies showing various benefits of cocoa ingestion, and many of the beneficial compounds identified, I thought this one was a fun headline for a study to post.
    Back to eating my cocoa....
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    you got owned like a phucking retard m8
    What ever you say red m8
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    Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Could it be a stronger study? For sure. Is it compelling and in line with known and unknown effects of the many bio active compounds in cocoa? Yes.

    The correct conclusion here is: compelling but more research is needed to confirm and parse out the mechanisms, etc.

    I'd say the value and benefits of the many compounds in cocoa only just starting to be elucidated and appreciated.
    To be fair, Will did say the above.

    He essentially stated that the "study" didn't provide MOA and what not and thus is inconclusive and would require further research.
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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    To be fair, Will did say the above.

    He essentially stated that the "study" didn't provide MOA and what not and thus is inconclusive and would require further research.
    People with working reading comp such as yourself are able to see I was far from supporting the study as conclusive. I just thought is a fun one. That some attention seeking type wanted to take the time to publish a poorly done little study as proof it can be done, is a big yawn to and not news to anyone who's been involved with research and researchers.
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    Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Another win for Cocoa.
    Literally the first sentence of the thread. Lol raped.
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    Literally the first sentence of the thread. Lol raped.
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    The study title should be low carb vs high carb diet........
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    Originally Posted by acecombact1 View Post
    The study title should be low carb vs high carb diet........
    Being the results of the study were intentionally misleading, you could call it "The effects of forever alone on body comp" and it would be a moot point. Bad studies have always existed, and always will, and the author accomplished nothing other than to perhaps reinforce some people distrust of science and research. It's why you never take one study as fact, why you read the entire study, etc. etc if one is really interested in the quality and validity of a study. I have read many studies where on inspection, not worth the paper or electrons wasted on them and for oh, two decades + now, pointed them out. It's also why I made it clear the study "compelling but more research is needed to confirm and parse out the mechanisms, etc." even though I thought it a fun result people might get a kick out of.

    Fact is, chocolate does contain a number of compounds that would likely assist in weight loss, so it was not a big stretch to assume that little study might be onto something, but more research needed. Had the study found chocolate added 50IQ points or 50lbs to their bench press or something, it would have been more of a red flag to just dismiss.
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