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    Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
    Dark is the absence of light. Cold is the absence of heat. Evil is the absence of good.

    I have absolutely nothing to back up my view, it's just how I've always looked at it.
    Absurd.

    If we all got what we wanted whenever we wanted, how would people occupy themselves? What would they do with their time? If the world were filled with luxury and ease... that we don't need to better ourselves(and for loved ones)... people would die of boredom and ALT+F4 life. With to much luxury man would inflict more harm on themselves and others as well... more so than whatever suffering nature can offer. Pure good as an absence of evil can be just as evil by itself with your kind of thinking.
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    an OP editing suggestions: cut down the churchmilitant link to just churchmilitant.tv, because it's linked to today

    Some links I'd like plz:

    Jimmy Akin's Master Catechism, the catechisms of Aquinas, Trent, Baltimore, St. Pius X and the newest catechism all in one place:

    http://www.cin.org/users/james/ebook...er/master2.htm

    this papal encyclical site:

    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/

    This site with many books by saints:

    http://saintsbooks.net/
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    Iceland to Build First Temple to Norse Gods Since Viking Age


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    Originally Posted by CalmWind View Post
    Reminder to all the people who say "it's just music/movies, it doesn't change people or make them do things" ..... There's been a rise in popularity of Norse mythology since History channel's "VIKINGS" came on air.


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    Originally Posted by lasher View Post



    I take offense to this comic, as should Sir Issac Newton.

    Newton's momentum would explain why the rocket and the robot continued to move together after colliding.

    Edit: Meh, now I see the projectile impaled itself in the robot, which is why it's moving. But pretty sure that ghost would still move with the robot after being struck, for a period of time before gravity worked on it.

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    I take offense to this comic, as should Sir Issac Newton.

    Newton's momentum would explain why the rocket and the robot continued to move together after colliding.

    Edit: Meh, now I see the projectile impaled itself in the robot, which is why it's moving. But pretty sure that ghost would still move with the robot after being struck, for a period of time before gravity worked on it.

    Glad to see my boys Leibniz and Plato there.
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    I've been listening to a lot of Sam Cooke recently...

    And started thinking about the impact Christianity had on the evolution of American Pop music - wether you like the music or not - it's a major part of "American culture"... The impact is significant and the history is ironic..

    Hundreds of years ago Christians, Jews and Muslims, all played a part in the African slave trade, since slavery was socially acceptable back then... Before they were shipped to America, Africans practiced tribal pagan religions and some even practiced Islam apparently... When they were bought by southern plantation owners they were stripped of any connection they had to the religions from their past, and given the bible instead.

    Now here's the great irony: The biblical characters of Moses and Jesus were exactly who the slaves needed at that time. Quaranic verses about how Mohommad owned slaves, or tribal tales of ancestors reincarnated as birds with special powers would have done nothing to improve the slaves situation, and in fact - it might have made it worse... But through the bible, through the stories of Moses and Jesus and through the Christian faith the slaves were freed spiritually and began to connect to the creator of the universe with the limited ways they could. One of those ways was music....

    Fast forward several generations later...

    Blues/Gospel musicians like Sam Cooke pioneered rock'n'roll music which layed the foundation for today's American pop music, a major element of "American culture."

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    TFW repped by six people in one day and your rep count barely changes.
    Would rep but you're on spread.

    I don't rep/neg that often so it may be awhile before you get some more greens.
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    http://existentialcomics.com

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    Funny how you discovered it at nearly the same time I did. but yes, it provides many lulz. Especially the one with Hume at the customer service desk who rustles customers jimmies with inductive skepticism.
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    TFW repped by six people in one day and your rep count barely changes.
    Dem feelz. six light hitters in a row, no rep point change. Then my Fedoraholic neg came in right on schedule and I'm ten down again.
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    Absurd.

    If we all got what we wanted whenever we wanted, how would people occupy themselves? What would they do with their time? If the world were filled with luxury and ease... that we don't need to better ourselves(and for loved ones)... people would die of boredom and ALT+F4 life. With to much luxury man would inflict more harm on themselves and others as well... more so than whatever suffering nature can offer. Pure good as an absence of evil can be just as evil by itself with your kind of thinking.
    I have no idea how you got all of that out of my post. Until I read the last line, I was convinced you had quoted the wrong person. How much evil do you think exists in heaven? By your logic, heaven is going to be a really hellish place.
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    Nice thread. anyways I wanted to know what y'all guys thought about the rapture and when it would happen. It seems as if everything said in the bible that would happen is happening now and is leading to the end. What do y'all guys think? To me it excites me.
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    Originally Posted by PaulG View Post
    Absurd.

    If we all got what we wanted whenever we wanted, how would people occupy themselves? What would they do with their time? If the world were filled with luxury and ease... that we don't need to better ourselves(and for loved ones)... people would die of boredom and ALT+F4 life. With to much luxury man would inflict more harm on themselves and others as well... more so than whatever suffering nature can offer. Pure good as an absence of evil can be just as evil by itself with your kind of thinking.
    Wouldn't that apply to Heaven then, since it will be luxury and ease?
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    Originally Posted by DTEXL190 View Post
    Nice thread. anyways I wanted to know what y'all guys thought about the rapture and when it would happen. It seems as if everything said in the bible that would happen is happening now and is leading to the end. What do y'all guys think? To me it excites me.
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    Originally Posted by CalmWind View Post
    lately i've been feeling I'm not worthy enough to even call God "Father" during prayer.
    Have you tried calling Him Dude?
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    I have no idea how you got all of that out of my post. Until I read the last line, I was convinced you had quoted the wrong person. How much evil do you think exists in heaven? By your logic, heaven is going to be a really hellish place.
    I'm sorry, I just get a little bit abrasive at times when discussing common sense that seems long lost.

    I just don't see good and evil as only extremes. If evil is the absence of good and vice versa, then there is only these two options. That notion suggests nothing can be amoral or moderate in between the two.

    When we first touch fire, ouch! it hurts, but, it's an amoral thing; neither purely good or bad. However, it is a desired experience that a pure good society could never allow by your logic. If heaven's rules disallow this kind of thing, it is no heaven.
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    Originally Posted by Fiyero View Post
    Wouldn't that apply to Heaven then, since it will be luxury and ease?
    Perhaps so..

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    lately i've been feeling I'm not worthy enough to even call God "Father" during prayer.
    Those feelings don't come from God.
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    Those feelings don't come from God.
    Perhaps the enemy is at work. I thought it was just self-guilt, of not being able to live perfectly without sin. The Father is perfect, and merciful, and loving..... he gives us so much and is so patient with us..... and so forgiving of us even when we betray him and do things that would break your heart if it were done to you...... it just felt like I, as a sinful human, am not worthy to even call him Father, as he is perfect and wonderful.....
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    I just don't see good and evil as only extremes. If evil is the absence of good and vice versa, then there is only these two options. That notion suggests nothing can be amoral or moderate in between the two.
    I wasn't suggesting that there are only two extremes. A room can be dimly lit due to lack of light, yet it's not pitch black. It can be a cold day but it doesn't have to be at absolute zero. All of us sin so none of us are perfectly good. Even Hitler had a few good traits and was not perfectly evil.
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    Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
    I wasn't suggesting that there are only two extremes. A room can be dimly lit due to lack of light, yet it's not pitch black. It can be a cold day but it doesn't have to be at absolute zero. All of us sin so none of us are perfectly good. Even Hitler had a few good traits and was not perfectly evil.
    I think the idea of perfectly evil is precluded in reality according to the privation theory. Everything is good...like 'there is a time to every purpose under heaven'. To reach complete evil in this theory you have to remove purpose entirely. Anything without a purpose is absolute evil. But we know that can't happen, because then it wouldn't exist. So when something appears evil it becomes 'Gods plan'. Gods intention. It has a purpose. And must...or it wouldn't exist.

    That does make it interesting to wonder what the Devil's job is, if there could be a Devil, and if 'the Devil' is an office which is occupied and left as time goes on.
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    Whatsup guys, I am a Christian and have been my entire life, but I'm going through a weak point in my faith and one thing in particular that I'm struggling with lately. With all of the differences with things written in the bible and things discovered by modern science, how do you guys feel about them? i.e. creation of the world for starters.
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