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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
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    What would you guys recommend for lockout strength past rack pulls? The paused deficit deadlifts you advised worked WONDERS for my speed off the floor, the limiting factor for me just seemed to be lockout strength.

    Any pro tips?

    Is it a hip hinge/form problem?


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    Originally Posted by Turtora View Post
    What would you guys recommend for lockout strength past rack pulls? The paused deficit deadlifts you advised worked WONDERS for my speed off the floor, the limiting factor for me just seemed to be lockout strength.

    Any pro tips?

    Is it a hip hinge/form problem?

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    I was having lockout problems and I did block pulls and banded deadlifts for awhile and it seemed to really help.
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    Originally Posted by adamsz View Post
    I was having lockout priblems and I did block pulls and banded deadlifts for awhile and it seemed to really help.
    I would second the pulling against bands and or block pulls.
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    Thanks fellas.

    Is the poor man's banded deadlift fine? Where youre stepping on the band? I dont have access to a specialty platform.

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    Originally Posted by Turtora View Post
    Thanks fellas.

    Is the poor man's banded deadlift fine? Where youre stepping on the band? I dont have access to a specialty platform.
    You use some heavy DBs to set up the bands if there are enough
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    Originally Posted by Turtora View Post
    What would you guys recommend for lockout strength past rack pulls? The paused deficit deadlifts you advised worked WONDERS for my speed off the floor, the limiting factor for me just seemed to be lockout strength.

    Any pro tips?

    Is it a hip hinge/form problem?
    Block pulls and any other kind of heavy glute work. Also, improving your starting position goes a long way.

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    Man I hate block pulls. Always feels so much heavier to me. Clearly I need to do more of them. I dont think I am getting my positioning right because I always scrape my knees up when I do them.
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    looks like rubish is creeping on this thread, he just posted some banded DLs to fix his lockout haha

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    Right on, fellas. Really appreciate the input. All I care about is deadlift so it means a lot lmao.

    And RunCommand, I have that problem too. I think, for the most part, shins should probably be vertical at the start position on rack pulls. First time I did them I set up with the bar over midfoot and it took forever to get off the blocks because leverage was piss poor, and then ended up drifting backward and into my knees.

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    Originally Posted by Turtora View Post
    Right on, fellas. Really appreciate the input. All I care about is deadlift so it means a lot lmao.

    And RunCommand, I have that problem too. I think, for the most part, shins should probably be vertical at the start position on rack pulls. First time I did them I set up with the bar over midfoot and it took forever to get off the blocks because leverage was piss poor, and then ended up drifting backward and into my knees.
    I need to adopt this mentality to get my fuking embarrassing ass deadlift up. dat squat = deadlift lyfe is just no good.
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    Originally Posted by Turtora View Post
    What would you guys recommend for lockout strength past rack pulls? The paused deficit deadlifts you advised worked WONDERS for my speed off the floor, the limiting factor for me just seemed to be lockout strength.

    Any pro tips?

    Is it a hip hinge/form problem?

    Block pulls, Speed pulls against bands, pull through's, glute and hip work to help drive your hips through at lock out. The lockout strength looked ok but it looked like you have trouble firing your glutes and driving your hips through the lock out.
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    Originally Posted by NorthStrong View Post
    I need to adopt this mentality to get my fuking embarrassing ass deadlift up. dat squat = deadlift lyfe is just no good.
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    Originally Posted by inarius View Post
    Block pulls, Speed pulls against bands, pull through's, glute and hip work to help drive your hips through at lock out. The lockout strength looked ok but it looked like you have trouble firing your glutes and driving your hips through the lock out.
    Dude thanks! Getting my hips through is definitely something I struggle with, for sure. I hammered some stiff leg deadlifts today, which seemed to fatigue my lockout pretty hard. I'm short torso/long ass fukkin legs, so maybe that has something to do with it?

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    Any other members of the SQ = DL sub-fam, have you found anything that has been particularly useful for your deadlift training? Volume, intensity, frequency, exercise selection, etc.

    Squat keeps moving up well and DL just feels like it never goes anywhere. Looking for some suggestions here so I can pull 500 before I squat it..
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    Thanks fellas.

    Is the poor man's banded deadlift fine? Where youre stepping on the band? I dont have access to a specialty platform.
    Yes lol. As long as it doesnt throw off your balance at all.

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    FAM I NEED HELP

    Any other members of the SQ = DL sub-fam, have you found anything that has been particularly useful for your deadlift training? Volume, intensity, frequency, exercise selection, etc.

    Squat keeps moving up well and DL just feels like it never goes anywhere. Looking for some suggestions here so I can pull 500 before I squat it..
    That used to be me. Sq was like 435 and dl was ~455. Then I started training strictly singles on the dl and learning to pull really really fast on all my warmups. Blew past 500 in less than 2 months and it kept going up. But then my squat barely moved up since then lol.
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    Originally Posted by baize82 View Post
    Sorry to post a vid, but #benchgainz

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    My best x4 is 330 but that was before I repeatedly jacked up my right pec. Feeling primed for a lifetime PR at my meet
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    That used to be me. Sq was like 435 and dl was ~455. Then I started training strictly singles on the dl and learning to pull really really fast on all my warmups. Blew past 500 in less than 2 months and it kept going up. But then my squat barely moved up since then lol.
    I'll say speed is something that really helps for me. Especially training that on every rep during warmups. I think KK said something like "every rep should be as explosive as possible". Heard that about 4 years ago and it has stuck with me ever since.

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    On the deadlift topic, add me to the "violent warmups" crew.



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    Originally Posted by NorthStrong View Post
    FAM I NEED HELP

    Any other members of the SQ = DL sub-fam, have you found anything that has been particularly useful for your deadlift training? Volume, intensity, frequency, exercise selection, etc.

    Squat keeps moving up well and DL just feels like it never goes anywhere. Looking for some suggestions here so I can pull 500 before I squat it..
    More volume, more frequency. For a long time I was doing one top set of deads a week, now I do three to four on one day (plus accessories) plus heavy alternate deadlift after squats. As long as you ramp up, you can handle the work load. Took me out of squat > deadlift club.

    Also, I had to stop being a lil bitch when it came to deadlifting. Not saying that's your problem, but "dreading" deadlifting became a self-fulfilling prophecy. Turning it around psychologically made the difference. Finding new training partners helped immensely in this regard. Things can get stale.
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    Originally Posted by AKGetsStrength View Post
    More volume, more frequency. For a long time I was doing one top set of deads a week, now I do three to four on one day (plus accessories) plus heavy alternate deadlift after squats. As long as you ramp up, you can handle the work load. Took me out of squat > deadlift club.

    Also, I had to stop being a lil bitch when it came to deadlifting. Not saying that's your problem, but "dreading" deadlifting became a self-fulfilling prophecy. Turning it around psychologically made the difference. Finding new training partners helped immensely in this regard. Things can get stale.
    Awesome advice man, especially the mental part is true, deadlift day has kinda become dreadlift day. I might get away from the competition movement because it is really stale and just hammer some variaitons that I suck at like stiff legs and block pulls, etc. Gonna probably do more volume and perhaps frequency too after this meet is done.
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    Originally Posted by PanzeR- View Post
    Ask a guy that trained and ate with NorthStrong anything. I also slept at his place, in a totally non homo way.
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