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    Moooooooooose!! Hahahaha.

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    Moooooooooose!! Hahahaha.

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    Thanks everyone... just checking in...

    Lots of crap going on, and I seriously pushed myself way too hard, and now I am dealing with multiple injuries.

    I am doing lots of rehab for my elbows, really f'd up my left one. My shoulders are getting better, knees seem to be hanging in there. I can't do any pull routines at all right now, push days are mild, just keeping stuff semi greased. Pretty much a sh!t storm of nothing right now, hence me not posting.

    I will lose my gains sadly... but now I need to focus on losing my halloween candy gains!!!

    I guess my silver lining will be that I can now focus on my diet again... Peace... back to my pity party lol
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    Sorry to hear about the injuries Moose. Fwiw, I did the same thing. It's easy to get carried away when things are going well and push too hard. It sounds like you're on the mend now so hopefully you heal up quickly. We'll have a full strength Moose back in no time.

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    You can get plenty done with bum elbows, and all those gainz will come back when it is time. It won't be as much fun, but you can still meet some weight loss goals before the end of the year. So don't go running off to far, this cardio crew is a crew of one right now. Time to kick it up a notch and go kick some azz.
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    Injuries suck Moose....rehab and prehab is whats its all about....hang in there and do what you can
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    Originally Posted by MooseTequila View Post
    Thanks everyone... just checking in...

    Lots of crap going on, and I seriously pushed myself way too hard, and now I am dealing with multiple injuries.

    I am doing lots of rehab for my elbows, really f'd up my left one. My shoulders are getting better, knees seem to be hanging in there. I can't do any pull routines at all right now, push days are mild, just keeping stuff semi greased. Pretty much a sh!t storm of nothing right now, hence me not posting.

    I will lose my gains sadly... but now I need to focus on losing my halloween candy gains!!!

    I guess my silver lining will be that I can now focus on my diet again... Peace... back to my pity party lol
    I feel ya.

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    Good to see you are still ok man, injuries are injuries and unfortunately we all get em. Working around them with a bit of refocus is what it's all about, never quit and always do what you can when you can
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    Thanks everyone... Happy Thanksgiving to you too Ron... and of course everyone else!! I simply did cardio and pause leg day stuff, nothing exciting... doing lots of RICE for the elbows... all boring as crap stuff :/

    Again, those of you celebrating Thanksgiving... have a great one...


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    Originally Posted by MooseTequila View Post
    Thanks everyone... just checking in...

    Lots of crap going on, and I seriously pushed myself way too hard, and now I am dealing with multiple injuries.

    I am doing lots of rehab for my elbows, really f'd up my left one. My shoulders are getting better, knees seem to be hanging in there. I can't do any pull routines at all right now, push days are mild, just keeping stuff semi greased. Pretty much a sh!t storm of nothing right now, hence me not posting.

    I will lose my gains sadly... but now I need to focus on losing my halloween candy gains!!!

    I guess my silver lining will be that I can now focus on my diet again... Peace... back to my pity party lol
    Bad luck about the injuries Bruce, but don't feel down about them: it's a PITA but it's a fact of life at our age that our joints and tendons aren't as supple as they used to be. In the end you just have to make lemonade and focus on the body parts you can work on. It sounds like a good opportunity to do some leg work (maybe squats and leg presses going lighter but really focussing on the intensity so that you don't tax the knees) and stationary cycling is always a good way to get cardio in

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    Hey! Sorry to hear about the multiple injuries, looks like I'm not the only one with RL stuff getting the best of them. Hope you have a good recovery and enjoy the holidays while healing up.
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    No training posted on this page, hope you are well buddy.
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    I hope your recovering well Moose. High rep work while on reduced calories is a terror on joints for natural trainees. I've been running some periodization programs that taper from higher rep hypertrophic work down to high intensity strength development. What I've found for me is even as little as 2 weeks of the high rep stuff starts causing some soreness in my joints. And this is while I'm eating lots of food. I actually recover and feel better when I move to the higher weight and lower reps. I've got a friend who is training for physique class and he is shredded. He's doing ton of sets and reps and TUT work and getting killer results...but natty? Nope...good luck bro
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    Thanks everyone... still alive...

    Elbows, Shoulders and Knees... oh my
    Rehab blows...


    So from years ago rt elbow gets tennis elbow after lifting. Right now it is about the best it will even be so this is a win.

    Shoulders have chronic history, they too are feeling about the best they will...

    Knees, history of badness as well... but they really flared up when I started on this new journey and started doing squats. I have skipped squats recently, and no knee issues. I am always playing with tracking and stance. I may give them a go again soon... see what the hell happens.

    Left elbow, that is the source of much pain. I couldn't even raise my laptop up with my left arm without a ton of pain. Even bending my arm to scratch my nose hurt. I think I figured out part of the cause, grip form and over it doing pull days. On heavy sets near the end of each exercise my grip would start to go away, and I would be pulling with all my might with a finger tip grip, barely hanging on. Since I have started rehab, my pull days are only in the 40-50% of my max set weight. The pain was inside of the elbow, along with the bottom of the forearm. If I applied pressure with my thumb, into the palm of my left hand, I could feel pain in my elbow and forearm... it was bad, bad, bad.

    I have been doing lots of pause work on push/pull/leg days, along with lighter weights and 3/3 and 2/2 counts with the pause work. That has seemed to really help, changing grip angles on pull days has helped also.

    It looks like my WO's are evolving possibly long term in order to accommodate all my joints. Pretty much an adapt or die thought process

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    Cardio
    In out rotation
    Stretches
    Empty bar bounce pause
    Straight arm pulldowns
    Leg extension
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    Leg curls
    3x12x50
    HS leg press+118
    Empty pauses/bounce

    Campers in squats racks, wanted to try again, next week...

    HS leg press+118
    12x270 (388) 3/3 wide 2 sec pause
    12x270 (388) 3/3 narrow 2 sec pause
    10x360 (478) 3/3 wide pause
    10x360 (478) 3/3 narrow pause
    10x450 (568) 2/2 wide pause
    10x450 (568) 2/2 narrow pause
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    4x8x90 toasted quads
    Felt way diff than HS hacks, shoulder pads instead of low back/hip

    Leg curls
    10x80 2/2 pause
    10x90 2/2 pause
    10x100 2/2
    8x100 2/2

    Leg extension
    8x70 2/2 pause fuk quads crying
    3x8x70 omg... Gonna be DOMS

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    4x10x70 (165)

    Back extensions
    3x10xbw

    Cardio

    Simple day, no knee issues FTW

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    Legs tight but not like painful DOMS, very good feeling

    Monday rehab
    4 sets max, slow w/ progressive weight bumps is the goal & 75℅ range of max set weight... But going to go by feel + or -


    Push day
    Restarted PA Weds after a month off
    Really feeling the difference


    WU
    Cardio
    In out rotation
    Stretches
    Straight arm rope pulldowns
    Empty bar stretches
    Technogym press slow deep stretch
    20x60

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    Bumped over last week
    10x140 (158)
    10x160 (178)
    10x180 (198)
    8x200(218) new high
    Disclaimer: had been doing a lot of db bp so went back months for HS #'s... So no big deal in reality... Feels better

    HS incline press+8
    Bumped over last week
    10x140 (148)
    10x160 (168)
    10x170 (178)
    9x180 (188) 95℅
    Happy...

    HS Decline+6
    Bumped over last week
    10x160 (166)
    10x180 (186) 77℅
    10x210 (216)
    8x220 (226) 91℅
    Happy

    CGPB keep light for elbows/wrists
    Bump over last week
    10x135
    10x155 89℅ keep weight here
    8x155
    8x155

    Hoist shoulder press
    Reduced ROM
    4x10x90... 78℅

    Hoist Laterals
    10x80
    10x90
    10x100
    9x100

    Tri pushdown straight bar
    Bump over last week
    10x120
    10x135
    10x150... 86℅
    10x160... 91℅
    Happy

    Cardio

    Tomorrow's pull day will still suffer greatly, especially curls, but hopefully some improvement over last week

    Time to at least say "HI" on some logs
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    Things look pretty good from here Moose, but I am a blind man....lol
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