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    Originally Posted by thehypocrit View Post
    "People who take music seriously"

    lol just fuking lol

    Being good at something subjective

    fuking lol
    So you're saying a person who occasionally plays guitar and sticks to 4-chord guitar songs cannot be compared to a jazz virtuoso proficient in theory, composition, and performance playing for a decades?

    I'm honestly at a loss of words to describe how much stupidity actually exists. I seriously thought people were trolling ITT for a while.
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    Originally Posted by Ted Nugent View Post
    i would call Kanye a terrible artist, but that would be assuming he could even be classified as an artist

    dude is a talentless attention whore and terminal crybaby

    the only reason anyone pays attention to Beyonces "music" is because they are forced to via radio/pop culture, if she was an unknown and not just riding the gravy train of her past success no one would give a dam about her produced garbage, people would still notice Beck because of his actual talent and consistency at actually making good music
    I bet you have not heard any of Kanye's body of work and just assuming that he is garbage. So much ignorance mane.
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    I love how the Beyoncé songs being posted are clear radio cut pop songs. as if she has zero substance. her voice is in a another stratosphere from Becks. haters wont acknowledge it tho

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    Why is everyone hating on Beyonce? She didn't say anything wrong.
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    Originally Posted by Bromance View Post
    Beyoncé - independent woman

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    "You know I thug em, fuk em, love em, leave em
    Cause I don't fukin' need em"

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    How is it even a debate. I know ya'll don't like Kanye but Beyoncé is infinitely more relevant than Beck. Beyonce is like the female Obama of black and white girls
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    Originally Posted by canyoudigthat View Post
    Lol'd at you taking lyrics seriously.
    Fundamental difference between musicians who actually write lyrics to express how they feel v/s 'musicians' who may write lyrics (usually someone else writes it) for what would sell
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    Originally Posted by TeBag View Post
    Beyonce likely is more of a natural talent than Beck. But Beck is certainly more innovative.

    Ask yourself this, who is doing more for the world of music? The girl who sings songs written by others and marketed to the masses using tried and true formulas guaranteed to make money and make a bunch of old rich white guys rich? Or the weird dude doing experimental stuff and pushing boundaries on his own terms (whether his music sucks or not)?
    I'm a big Beck fan, but this has been probably his safest album to date. A lot of the weird elements he puts into his songs were watered down. I was shocked he was nominated, let alone won. Still kicks the schit out of the other nominees though

    And lol at the Grammy's not having anyone who knows a damn about metal/heavy rock still
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    People are blowing this way out of proportion. Kanye said after that he loves Beck music and that he wasn't referring to Beck as not being a true artist. He was actually talking about the Grammy's as a whole. He just felt that Beyoncè latest album was better than Beck's latest album. He wasn't implying anything about Beck not being a true artist. It's his opinion and he voiced it, he always has been outspoken even during when he was just a producer. People need to chill the **** out lol.
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    Originally Posted by canyoudigthat View Post
    People are blowing this way out of proportion. Kanye said after that he loves Beck music and that he wasn't referring to Beck as not being a true artist. He was actually talking about the Grammy's as a whole. He just felt that Beyoncè latest album was better than Beck's latest album. He wasn't implying anything about Beck not being a true artist. It's his opinion and he voiced it, he always has been outspoken even during when he was just a producer. People need to chill the **** out lol.
    You can voice an opinion without stealing someone's spotlight, and making them out to be a joke.
    When he says Grammy's need to respect artistry, he directly implies that Beck's art cannot be respected, or undeserving of respect.
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    listening to a few songs from becks new album posted in here... he seems to of gone John Denver style... Its peaceful and I enjoy it. Not my main style of music but neither is country and I find a few good songs here n there.

    music spectrum goes from folk---------------black dark metal lol. rock, actual rap, EDM, trance, southern rock/country. Honestly if its good I'd prolly give it a chance and listen. Unless its some whiney hipster BS / Feminist BS slow poetry
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    Honestly the only good "rap" artist anymore is either Common or Tech N9ne... actually have a flow

    where was the love from Kanye when Tech should of been at the grammys for Sickology 101... no where
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    kanye's at it again; making people famous, reviving careers and giving more exposure to those who deserve it.

    first it was taylor swift. look at her now.

    he then introduced Paul McCartney to a new generation

    and now single handedly revived Beck's career.

    Yeezy truly is a musical god. and let us thank him for all he's done for us.
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    Originally Posted by Godyssey View Post
    I love how the Beyoncé songs being posted are clear radio cut pop songs. as if she has zero substance. her voice is in a another stratosphere from Becks. haters wont acknowledge it tho

    "Real Artist"


    Brah... I like Resentment and it is one of Beyonce's best songs... but SHE STOLE IT OFF VICTORIA BECKHAM OF ALL PEOPLE.



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    Originally Posted by East1600plus View Post
    Honestly the only good "rap" artist anymore is either Common or Tech N9ne... actually have a flow

    where was the love from Kanye when Tech should of been at the grammys for Sickology 101... no where
    Never understood the tech 9 hype serious.
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    Originally Posted by East1600plus View Post
    Honestly the only good "rap" artist anymore is either Common or Tech N9ne... actually have a flow

    where was the love from Kanye when Tech should of been at the grammys for Sickology 101... no where
    I've heard "only good rappers anymore are ________" a million times but this has to be the most random selection of artists I've ever seen
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    Originally Posted by JohnnyPotsmoker View Post
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    How is it even a debate. I know ya'll don't like Kanye but Beyoncé is infinitely more relevant than Beck. Beyonce is like the female Obama of black and white girls
    This has got nothing to do with RELEVANCY.

    The grammys wouldn't have 83 categories praising all aspects of music if it was about "relevancy"

    The majority of those 83 winners you would have never heard of.

    the Billboard awards, award artists on their sales. It of course applies to the Grammys too, but the Grammys have always had more artistic integrity, they are the Oscars of music.
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    Originally Posted by Lucianus View Post
    This has got nothing to do with RELEVANCY.

    The grammys wouldn't have 83 categories praising all aspects of music if it was about "relevancy"

    the Billboard awards, award artists on their sales. It of course applies to the Grammys too, but the Grammys have always had more artistic integrity, they are the Oscars of music.
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    Originally Posted by AmericanBrah01 View Post
    brah your still arguing this **** give it a rest lol.
    I have "Forum Buddy" and it shows me when I've been quoted. I've just logged back in and i'll post where I want. lel.
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    Originally Posted by rainieravesouth View Post
    kanye's at it again; making people famous, reviving careers and giving more exposure to those who deserve it.

    first it was taylor swift. look at her now.

    he then introduced Paul McCartney to a new generation

    and now single handedly revived Beck's career.

    Yeezy truly is a musical god. and let us thank him for all he's done for us.

    prob why beck still called kanye a genius... he knows how the attention game works...


    good for real artists everywhere though.... this incident made some unawares lookup beck and realize the stark artistic difference between commercial-media and artistic-music....... kanya being mostly persona, but a barely literate rapper....... versus beck being a strange, kinda aloof dude with little commercial success but an absolute prodigy of music, diction, and artistic-intention.
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    Originally Posted by Lucianus View Post
    I have "Forum Buddy" and it shows me when I've been quoted. I've just logged back in and i'll post where I want. lel.
    It just seems pointless to argue about music when its subjective but w.e.
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    Originally Posted by AmericanBrah01 View Post
    It just seems pointless to argue about music when its subjective but w.e.

    You can say that about every subject in the world. All subjects are subjective.

    It's just a discussion, if it's making you lose sleep at night you don't have to enter the thread. And I'd rather talk about artists than reply to threads from miscers asking how to get laid.
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    Originally Posted by Lucianus View Post
    You can say that about every subject in the world. All subjects are subjective.

    It's just a discussion, if it's making you lose sleep at night you don't have to enter the thread. And I'd rather talk about artists than reply to threads from miscers asking how to get laid.
    Lol no i agree but its 22 pages deep, I think we can all agree kanye is attention seeking d bag.
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    Originally Posted by AmericanBrah01 View Post
    Lol no i agree but its 22 pages deep, I think we can all agree kanye is attention seeking d bag.
    & Beck is a more talented artist in a whole, than Beyonce. And deserved the award over her.
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    Originally Posted by Lucianus View Post
    [vide=youtube;JF2YbvRLkno]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF2YbvRLkno[/video]

    [ig]http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jennifer-lawrence-oh-yeah-thumbs-up.gif[/img]
    Love how no one is actually listening to that babbling idiot. Just standing there shaking their heads and waiting for him to shut up.
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    Originally Posted by Lucianus View Post
    & Beck is a more talented artist in a whole, than Beyonce. And deserved the award over her.
    At least beck plays instruments unlike kanyee who claims to be this musical genius.
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    Originally Posted by chitkunt View Post
    lol @ sales having anything to do with talent or quality.

    fukin soulja boy has a platinum album.
    Whether you believe it or not, Soulja Boy is actually one of the main pioneers for how hip hop is handled and even created today. Many of the Atlanta artists that are popular right now were influenced vastly by the music of Soulja. (And obviously ***** Mane, since he is from Atlanta).

    So he kinda deserves what he's got
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    Originally Posted by AmericanBrah01 View Post
    At least beck plays instruments unlike kanye and yet claims to be this musical genius.
    Playing instruments means nothing. At all.

    And I'm pretty sure his 21 Grammy awards allow him to make claims of being a musical genius
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    Originally Posted by GnarlySheen View Post
    Love how no one is actually listening to that babbling idiot. Just standing there shaking their heads and waiting for him to shut up.
    You can tell he is like this about every subject.

    I bet he talks about his morning cup of coffee in this manner too.
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    Originally Posted by CapitalSTEEZ View Post
    Playing instruments means nothing. At all.

    And I'm pretty sure his 21 Grammy awards allow him to make claims of being a musical genius
    Really playing an instrument means nothing? Okay lol.
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