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    Red face Never had a spotter

    I was thinking about my training, and how some guys have big benches. I do not have a big bench, I did not prioritize the barbell bench press. Is it necessary to have a spotter for the bench if you are serious? I just think I have been missing out because I have not had a training partner in ages. I wonder what my potential could have been.
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    No it is not necessary.

    Just use a power rack with the safeties in. Safer than an actual spotter
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    Power rack is good if you cant find a good spotter. Sometimes a spotter can be trained .
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    It's hard to push yourself to try something more than you're accustomed to without a spot, at least in my experience. I never hesitate to ask for a spot at the gym if I need one. If you have a home gym, a cage is very important. Once I get north of 275 lbs on bp, I always use a spotter. Without a spot, sometimes I feel like I leave reps on the table which could slow progress.
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    watch videos of bench press fails. i was never the same
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    Originally Posted by Nightfly View Post
    I was thinking about my training, and how some guys have big benches. I do not have a big bench, I did not prioritize the barbell bench press. Is it necessary to have a spotter for the bench if you are serious? I just think I have been missing out because I have not had a training partner in ages. I wonder what my potential could have been.
    Man, you got to train in a power cage. I can only workout for 20 or 30 minutes max so I got a cage at home, doing singles training. ( I train in martial art so lifting time in low. )
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    When I was maybe 16 I failed on an inclince press and had to be saved by a couple of guys. It left a mark on me.

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    Originally Posted by RookieGER View Post
    watch videos of bench press fails. i was never the same
    After watching those fails, I always put collars on (why not? it takes seconds) and wrap my thumbs around the bar.

    I never have a spotter except when my son is home from college. I'm very selfish with my time in the gym and don't want to spot anyone else, so I almost never ask for one.
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    While I don't recommend it, a big bench can be built without a spotter or even a rack. The only time I ever had a spotter was maxing out..otherwise it was just me and the bench. My highest competition bench was 440#.

    To do this you have to understand this is a long, slow process, you have to listen to your body in terms of fatigue or injury. I did a lot of 5x5 and if I hit the reps (and I never went to failure for obvious reasons) I was done with that set. Than I would go up 5# the next week, etc.

    As I said, I wouldn't recommend it,especially to someone starting out, but it can be done.
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    Originally Posted by Beastlito View Post
    No it is not necessary.

    Just use a power rack with the safeties in. Safer than an actual spotter
    This^^
    Ive trained alone for years, used the power rack and safeties many times.
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    Originally Posted by Smelly bull View Post
    While I don't recommend it, a big bench can be built without a spotter or even a rack. The only time I ever had a spotter was maxing out..otherwise it was just me and the bench. My highest competition bench was 440#.

    To do this you have to understand this is a long, slow process, you have to listen to your body in terms of fatigue or injury. I did a lot of 5x5 and if I hit the reps (and I never went to failure for obvious reasons) I was done with that set. Than I would go up 5# the next week, etc.

    As I said, I wouldn't recommend it,especially to someone starting out, but it can be done.
    I think this has definitly slowed my progression. It's hard to tell when there is another clean rep or two in the tank. I train early am in a gym where spotters are not available and if I dump the weights I would likely get booted. Might start using the rack for heavy days, still won't be able to get any forced reps.
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    Absolutely agree with benching in a rack. At some gyms I've had to do that just because the bench stations aren't adjustable and I can't reach far enough to unrack out of the darn things on my own. I'm not short, but I think some of those must be designed for people who are a minimum of 5'10" or something.

    Also, I love pin presses. Which is something else you can do when you bench in a rack
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    Anyone here in martial art? I do singles because I want to hit as hard as hell. I do the same for squats and deads to avoid the take down or to get up from the ground. Would doing a few reps add to any of that?

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    Originally Posted by Gabbar99 View Post
    After watching those fails, I always put collars on (why not? it takes seconds) and wrap my thumbs around the bar.

    I never have a spotter except when my son is home from college. I'm very selfish with my time in the gym and don't want to spot anyone else, so I almost never ask for one.
    Don't do that - don't use collars when benching alone.

    If you fail the bar will land on you and you will be pinned under it. With collars on the bar, you will not be able to get the bar off you.

    Without collars you can tilt the bar and let the plates slide off.
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    Originally Posted by RestoringTally View Post
    Don't do that - don't use collars when benching alone.

    If you fail the bar will land on you and you will be pinned under it. With collars on the bar, you will not be able to get the bar off you.

    Without collars you can tilt the bar and let the plates slide off.
    I lift in a cage with safeties and other lifters within 8 feet. I even practiced getting out if I failed.
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    After watching those fails, I always put collars on (why not? it takes seconds) and wrap my thumbs around the bar.

    I never have a spotter except when my son is home from college. I'm very selfish with my time in the gym and don't want to spot anyone else, so I almost never ask for one.
    Don't do that - don't use collars when benching alone.

    If you fail the bar will land on you and you will be pinned under it. With collars on the bar, you will not be able to get the bar off you.

    Without collars you can tilt the bar and let the plates slide off.
    I lift in a cage with safeties and other lifters within 8 feet. I even practiced getting out if I failed.
    Your original post did not say you lifted in a cage or had spotters available.

    The key word in my reply was alone. When you are alone there is no one to save your butt when you fail.

    And if you use a cage or power rack properly there is no need for human spotters for safety.
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    I was thinking about my training, and how some guys have big benches. I do not have a big bench, I did not prioritize the barbell bench press. Is it necessary to have a spotter for the bench if you are serious? I just think I have been missing out because I have not had a training partner in ages. I wonder what my potential could have been.
    It's mostly a question of experience. If you have enough to know whether you can complete the rep or not, you're fine without a spot. If you aren't at that point yet then it's better to have a spotter, or use hammer strength machines for sets you intend to take to failure.
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    Anyone here in martial art? I do singles because I want to hit as hard as hell. I do the same for squats and deads to avoid the take down or to get up from the ground. Would doing a few reps add to any of that?

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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    singles can be a road to injury, especially for someone new.
    Been lifting for years so not new to lifting, newby to BB.com. I warm up thoroughly. I found that higher reps did little for me for the MMA.
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    Originally Posted by Nightfly View Post
    I was thinking about my training, and how some guys have big benches. I do not have a big bench, I did not prioritize the barbell bench press. Is it necessary to have a spotter for the bench if you are serious? I just think I have been missing out because I have not had a training partner in ages. I wonder what my potential could have been.
    You can make some good gains without a spotter. But if you want to be competitive, you've got to work with and through failure. That's the nature of all sports. Just a philosophy of trying to workout with people, and hopefully you have a chance to workout with people who are a step above your level.
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