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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    Jesus is God.
    Strawman. I said Jesus is not the Father, not God.

    You say Jesus and the Father are not two distinct persons.
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    I say Jesus is God.
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    I say Jesus is God.
    So do I.

    But I DON'T say he is the Father. YOU DO.
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    I agree there is no third Person, or even a second person, there is only One God.
    1 John 2:22
    Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    So do I.

    But I DON'T say he is the Father. YOU DO.
    Yes because the Bible says He is:

    Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

    Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    I say Jesus is God.
    You are correct. Brosmengle is a heretic.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    Yes because the Bible says He is
    1. No it doesn't. Oneness cultists say it does.
    2. That's not The Trinity Doctrine

    So please formally admit that you are not a Trinitarian (As I have been saying this whole time, you are just pretending to be one).

    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    You are correct. Brosmengle is a heretic.
    I do not deny that Jesus is God, you servant of Belial; but I do acknowledge a distinction between the Father and Son unlike you.

    And John says that the Antichrist denies the Father and the Son. Even Trinitarians acknowledge the personhood of the Father and the Son.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    1. No it doesn't. Oneness cultists say it does.
    2. That's not The Trinity Doctrine

    So please formally admit that you are not a Trinitarian (As I have been saying this whole time, you are just pretending to be one).
    I admit that I am a Bible believer and it's too bad that you aren't.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    I admit that I am a Bible believer and it's too bad that you aren't.
    Okay, but do formally admit that you are not a Trinitarian, since they do not share your beliefs.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    Okay, but do formally admit that you are not a Trinitarian, since they do not share your beliefs.
    I believe in the Trinity the 3 in 1 God of the Bible. What denomination are you? Or do you even have one with your unbiblical views?
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    I believe in the Trinity the 3 in 1 God of the Bible. What denomination are you? Or do you even have one with your unbiblical views?
    No, you are not a Trinitarian.

    Why? Because you say that Jesus IS the Father. NO distinction. Like BlackJack "Not even a second person".
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    1 John 5:12
    He who has the Son has life; he who has not the Son of God has not life.

    1 John 5:10
    He that believes in the Son of God has the witness of God in himself; he that does not believe God has made God a liar; because he does not believe the witness that God has testified of his Son.
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    1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
    (KJV)

    "The Johannine Comma (Latin: Comma Johanneum) is an interpolated phrase in verse 5:7-8 of the First Epistle of John.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannine_Comma

    "An interpolation, in relation to literature and especially ancient manuscripts, is an entry or passage in a text that was not written by the original author.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interp..._(manuscripts)
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    1 John 5:6
    "the Spirit is the truth."

    John 14:6
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    ^^^^

    So does Brosef also accept the other various conclusions regarding biblical scholarship to be found on Wikipedia?

    Or is he picking and choosing here.

    (Also, without actually reading the babble on this page, lol at the words getting increasingly larger in font in this mindless shouting match).
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    ^^^^

    So does Brosef also accept the other various conclusions regarding biblical scholarship to be found on Wikipedia?

    Or is he picking and choosing here.

    (Also, without actually reading the babble on this page, lol at the words getting increasingly larger in font in this mindless shouting match).
    I'm putting you on ignore now, farewell.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    I'm putting you on ignore now, farewell.
    Notice that Brosef is not answering the above question. A simple “yes” or “no” would do.

    This non-response is very telling.
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    Paddington, while you were doing your rounds, you could have just responded to his post as I did above, he’s pretty much trapped in a corner with all that.

    No, Brosef surely doesn’t agree with all sorts of actual biblical scholarship to be found on Wikipedia. And yet here he is quoting Wikipedia on some single issue he does agree with.

    Inconsistency for 1000, alex

    He has not responded to this point, and his non-response is very telling.
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    Originally Posted by numberguy12 View Post
    ^^^^

    So does Brosef also accept the other various conclusions regarding biblical scholarship to be found on Wikipedia?

    Or is he picking and choosing here.

    (Also, without actually reading the babble on this page, lol at the words getting increasingly larger in font in this mindless shouting match).
    He is just picking and choosing because he doesn't like that verse. He also refuses to believe any other verse that proves him wrong. He is a heretic.
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    Originally Posted by numberguy12 View Post
    Notice that Brosef is not answering the above question. A simple “yes” or “no” would do.

    This non-response is very telling.
    He's not responding because you have beaten him. He says he put you on ignore which shows that he is a weak person.
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    Originally Posted by numberguy12 View Post
    Paddington, while you were doing your rounds, you could have just responded to his post as I did above, he’s pretty much trapped in a corner with all that.

    No, Brosef surely doesn’t agree with all sorts of actual biblical scholarship to be found on Wikipedia. And yet here he is quoting Wikipedia on some single issue he does agree with.

    Inconsistency for 1000, alex

    He has not responded to this point, and his non-response is very telling.
    I respond to him over and over. He doesn't care what is actually true. He only cares about pushing his own lies.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post

    1 John 5:6
    "the Spirit is the truth."

    John 14:6
    Jesus answered, “I am the truth"

    ^ Jesus is the Spirit.

    The Spirit is not "The Third Person of *The Trinity*".

    1 John 5:7-8 "these three are one" is not Scripture.
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    John 8:32, 8:36
    “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free ... if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”

    2 Corinthians 3:17
    Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
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    You don't know what it means to "know". When the "Serpent" taught "Adam and Eve" "knowing", She simply gave them the secret to creation, She gave them the ability to procreate through "knowing".

    She made them Gods in their own right against God's wishes and She also exposed God as a liar.

    To "worship" means to work for, God made you to work for him, He doesn't care for you.

    God tried to kill all mankind because we now knew what we should not.

    She saved us by warning us, She said "prepare, build a boat"

    In Sumer "She" was known as Enki, God of Wisdom.

    "God" was known as Enlil, Ellil... El God of the Air.

    Anu was known as, "The Father in Heaven"

    Anu ruled the Heavens, Enlil ruled the Earth and Enki ruled Hell, together they form "The Holy Trinity". Yes, we were saved by "Satan" and yes, this Trinity predates the one you pray to but also, yes, they all come from the same source. The Bible is a plagiarism which inverts our Savior with our Enemy. You pray to your enemy, Christianity is a death cult. The Serpent "formed you from clay" and is trying to free you from slavery through knowledge. Essentially, the Serpent made the organic robot self-aware.



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    Anu ruled the Heavens, Enlil ruled the Earth and Enki ruled Hell, together they form "The Holy Trinity". Yes, we were saved by "Satan" and yes, this Trinity predates the one you pray to but also, yes, they all come from the same source. The Bible is a plagiarism which inverts our Savior with our Enemy. You pray to your enemy, Christianity is a death cult. The Serpent "formed you from clay" and is trying to free you from slavery through knowledge. Essentially, the Serpent made the organic robot self-aware.
    Rev 16:13
    And I saw, coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    ^ Jesus is the Spirit.

    The Spirit is not "The Third Person of *The Trinity*".

    1 John 5:7-8 "these three are one" is not Scripture.
    Jesus is God in the Flesh:

    Joh 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

    The Holy Spirit is a Spirit:

    Genesis 1:2 "...And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

    1 John 5:7-8 "these three are one" is in Scripture but it is not included in all manuscripts.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    Jesus is God in the Flesh


    No, Jesus is the Spirit.

    1 John 5:6
    "the Spirit is the truth."

    John 14:6
    Jesus answered, “I am the truth"

    1 John 5:7-8 "these three are one" is not Scripture.

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