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    cyborg giving up on bantamweight goals; dream fight with ronda

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/cris-cyborg...h-ronda-rousey

    Guess cyborg can remain safe. Too bad though, fans including me wanted to see it either outcome.
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    She would have got tapped anyway.

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    She always looked like she was on the verge of death when she weighed in anyways. Unless she dropped a good bit of muscle (which seemed to be one of her assets) she wasn't going to make that weight.
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    Cyborg wasn't gonna beat Rousey anyway.
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    Originally Posted by PuristBrah View Post
    Cyborg wasn't gonna beat Rousey anyway.
    She had a better chance than anyone else. She is a better striker than Ronda, but still probably doesn't hit hard enough to KO her before the inevitable judo toss.
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    Originally Posted by mp83 View Post
    She had a better chance than anyone else. She is a better striker than Ronda, but still probably doesn't hit hard enough to KO her before the inevitable judo toss.
    Exactly. I mean anyone has a puncher's chance against Rousey but once she gets a hold of her opponent and sends them flying, it's all over.
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    Originally Posted by PuristBrah View Post
    Exactly. I mean anyone has a puncher's chance against Rousey but once she gets a hold of her opponent and sends them flying, it's all over.
    Yep. As long as Ronda's striking defense is crappy (Tate lit her up a year ago and we didn't get to see it against Davis), she is vulnerable. However, so few of WMMA hit hard enough for it to matter.
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    Originally Posted by DFS200 View Post
    She would have got tapped anyway.

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    Originally Posted by PuristBrah View Post
    Cyborg wasn't gonna beat Rousey anyway.
    The main reason I was hoping they would fight was because of comments like this.
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    Originally Posted by mp83 View Post
    She had a better chance than anyone else. She is a better striker than Ronda, but still probably doesn't hit hard enough to KO her before the inevitable judo toss.
    We gon act like Cyborg cant destroy Ronda standing.

    We gon act like Cyborg cant take Ronda down (Roussey would have an advantage at this range)

    We gon act like the moment Cyborg is taken down she will easily be submitted (its not like she aint a brown belt under Andre Galvao or anything like that)
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    Originally Posted by chucksmanhood View Post
    We gon act like Cyborg cant destroy Ronda standing.

    We gon act like Cyborg cant take Ronda down (Roussey would have an advantage at this range)

    We gon act like the moment Cyborg is taken down she will easily be submitted (its not like she aint a brown belt under Andre Galvao or anything like that)
    I think Cyborg could win, without a doubt, but I think Ronda would have the edge.
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    Originally Posted by mp83 View Post
    I think Cyborg could win, without a doubt, but I think Ronda would have the edge.
    I respectfully disagree. And I know most other MMA experts would also respectfully disagree.
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    Originally Posted by chucksmanhood View Post
    I respectfully disagree. And I know most other MMA experts would also respectfully disagree.
    I guess we have to agree to disagree, but if they were fighting, I would be hoping I was wrong
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    Originally Posted by chucksmanhood View Post
    The main reason I was hoping they would fight was because of comments like this.
    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Rousey lose just for there to be a shake up in the division. Yes, Cyborg has a striking advantage and so would Holly Holm. Looking at it objectively though, their advantage is negated by Rousey's judo every time.
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    Originally Posted by PuristBrah View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Rousey lose just for there to be a shake up in the division. Yes, Cyborg has a striking advantage and so would Holly Holm. Looking at it objectively though, their advantage is negated by Rousey's judo every time.
    First off, Cyborg has decent Wrestling and is much tougher stronger than Rouseys previous opponents, not to mention she has far superior BJJ skills than Ronda (Although it would probably be fair to say Ronda has a better armbar)
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    Chucks please, get off Cyborg's nuts.

    What qualifies these people who'd pick Cyborg as "MMA experts"? Many fans who breakdown this dream fight will say ROnda will get destroyed, because of their blind hatred of Ronda alone rather than their vast knowledge of MMA. They, like you, have strong bias because for some reason can't stand the best female fighter in MMA history.

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    Originally Posted by chucksmanhood View Post
    First off, Cyborg has decent Wrestling and is much tougher stronger than Rouseys previous opponents, not to mention she has far superior BJJ skills than Ronda (Although it would probably be fair to say Ronda has a better armbar)
    Cyborgs tougher so she'll actually last the whole minute?

    Ronda would have her beat in the first round
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    Chucks please, get off Cyborg's nuts.

    What qualifies these people who'd pick Cyborg as "MMA experts"? Many fans who breakdown this dream fight will say ROnda will get destroyed, because of their blind hatred of Ronda alone rather than their vast knowledge of MMA. They, like you, have strong bias because for some reason can't stand the best female fighter in MMA history.

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    Dick I was on Cyborgs nuts way before Ronda had even heard of MMA. Im just saying most people (especially those with a vast knowledge of MMA) would say Cyborg is a heavy favourite. None of it matters though, until they fight, if they ever fight.
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    Cyborgs tougher so she'll actually last the whole minute?

    Ronda would have her beat in the first round
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    Dick I was on Cyborgs nuts way before Ronda had even heard of MMA. Im just saying most people (especially those with a vast knowledge of MMA) would say Cyborg is a heavy favourite. None of it matters though, until they fight, if they ever fight.
    Well if most people who know MMA so damn well would say that, then how come I'm not saying that? I think Ronda would be too wild and too good with her judo and get her down and likely submit possibly via armbar. I've seen the vids of Cyborg drilling that armbar with male grappling opponents. Looks good in training for the cameras, but that Ronda armbar is a weapon you know is in her arsenal, and you can prepare for it best you can, but good luck stopping her from getting it. I doubt Cyborg could stop it. Ronda's too dangerous with it and too good with her judo.
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    Originally Posted by Deathstroke View Post
    Well if most people who know MMA so damn well would say that, then how come I'm not saying that? I think Ronda would be too wild and too good with her judo and get her down and likely submit possibly via armbar. I've seen the vids of Cyborg drilling that armbar with male grappling opponents. Looks good in training for the cameras, but that Ronda armbar is a weapon you know is in her arsenal, and you can prepare for it best you can, but good luck stopping her from getting it. I doubt Cyborg could stop it. Ronda's too dangerous with it and too good with her judo.
    Pity for Ronda this aint a Judo match.
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    Originally Posted by chucksmanhood View Post
    Pity for Ronda this aint a Judo match.
    Cyborg hits hard, but she isn't some one-punch ko machine who finishes everyone in the first (especially when she's not roided to the gills). Ronda would be able to close the distance; she's been hit and she's not made of glass. And even though it was a while back, Cyborg literally pulled Gina into mount on her at least twice, and only got out because Gina is retarded and STOOD UP OUT OF FULL MOUNT. Her BJJ is solid, but her wrestling is sloppy, and if that's Ronda on top, game over.
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    Originally Posted by HardGainer82 View Post
    Cyborg hits hard, but she isn't some one-punch ko machine who finishes everyone in the first (especially when she's not roided to the gills). Ronda would be able to close the distance; she's been hit and she's not made of glass. And even though it was a while back, Cyborg literally pulled Gina into mount on her at least twice, and only got out because Gina is retarded and STOOD UP OUT OF FULL MOUNT. Her BJJ is solid, but her wrestling is sloppy, and if that's Ronda on top, game over.
    Cyborg >>>> Ronda.

    Ronda could beat her, same way someone like Shields could beat someone like GSP. Could happen but unlikely. Not seen enough of Rondas overall ground game to say she could beat someone like Cyborg just cos she got on top of her. Meisha Tate got one takedown on Ronda, Cyborgs takedowns are a lickle better than ole cupcakes.
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    oh yes.
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    Originally Posted by chucksmanhood View Post
    Cyborg >>>> Ronda.

    Ronda could beat her, same way someone like Shields could beat someone like GSP. Could happen but unlikely. Not seen enough of Rondas overall ground game to say she could beat someone like Cyborg just cos she got on top of her. Meisha Tate got one takedown on Ronda, Cyborgs takedowns are a lickle better than ole cupcakes.
    They are? Since when?

    Your post is basically an assertion followed by some rhetoric, but nothing factual that actually supports your point. You say you haven't seen enough of Ronda's ground game, well how about the fact that she's thrown everyone she's ever fought (with the exception of McMann) like a rag doll, and tapped/snapped nearly all of them as well?
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    Originally Posted by Deathstroke View Post
    http://www.mmaweekly.com/cris-cyborg...h-ronda-rousey

    Guess cyborg can remain safe. Too bad though, fans including me wanted to see it either outcome.
    Kind of sucks. Was hoping that Rousey would finally get the chance to shut Cyborg the fck up. But, at the same time, I didn't fully believe Cyborg would actually make the weight.
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