I sleep on the floor and lol @ mattress comfort culture (modern beta male)

[Djibouti360]

please aware me on the components of a japanese futon set

Google shikifuton (or shikibuton, idk the spelling). There's an american company that claims they make the closest replica of it called Tuft & Needle or something.

You could probably just lay like 4 comforters on top of each other, and then sew them together.

[CitizenVagrant]

Not sure if bait or just delusion, but I'll bite for amusement and even deconstruct some of this:

Sleeping on a mattress is not only bad for your body from a structural perspective, but gives your mind and body unreasonable comfort expectations, meaning you struggle to get up and feel increased discomfort in every day life. You have been raised to be a feeble modern beta male who craves the comfort of his pillow top mattress.

Did you know that a lot of animals (including our closely related monkeys and gorillas) have nests, dens, or make actual MATTRESSES out of natural materials? I wonder why that is. I wonder why an animal that spends the majority of its life just trying to survive would go to so much trouble to make a nest instead of sleeping on the cold fuking ground in the middle of nowhere. Surely it's because the animal has been conned into nest making like some Beta, right? Surely no Alpha Silverback actually makes its own nest, right?

Surely it's not natural for organisms to seek pleasure and avoid pain, right? Go figure part of what makes us human is when we can shut these instincts off and do what is rational or logical, not what is instinctual. If anything, intentionally sleeping in the floor is less instinctual than sleeping in a bed, because you are knowingly, willfully hurting yourself. Now as for the logic surrounding that (which we would assume would override instinct in this situation) that would be up to the individual, but let's look at yours:

Pillow tops are the ultimate betas who play into the hands of expensive mattress companies. Pillow tops actually flatten out in the parts of the mattress you sleep on most, and exacerbate sagging because the stuffing gets flattened and pushed around the same way as regular pillow stuffing. This ****s your back up while the bedding industry pockets your money.

In case you didn't know, your spine isn't straight, it's curved. The trick is maintaining the appropriate level of curvature so your spine can support your body and work correctly without impinging the host of nerves the run through it.



Picture A would be the appropriate curvature. B, C, and D are all phucked in various ways. Sleeping on the floor is going to result in C if you sleep flat on your back. It would result in something that would resemble Scoliosis if you slept on your side, because go figure your shoulder sticks out farther than your hip when you're on the ground.

You might say to roll your shoulder forward to abate this, and you'd be right - if it weren't for the fact that this will weaken your rotator / delt from being crunched up with half your bodyweight on it all night.

Pillowtops aren't the answer - what is the answer is a mattress that supports your back in the right places so when you sleep, your back is as close to the correct "default" posture as possible so your discs can hydrate while not under compression.

Pros of sleeping on the floor

-improved circulation

Additional pressure against the parts of your body that are contacting the ground (and not a cushioned mattress) would mean those areas would go numb, read: have no circulation)

-improved posture
-eliminates back pain for many people

Addressed above

-cooler temp.

Also higher level of particulates in the air the closer your get to the ground, so the air quality is worse.

-no space limitations

You can buy a bed that is roughly the size of a single person sleeping bag.

-no noisy bed frames creaking and squeaking (great during sex)

Only the sound of your joints dying

-can sleep anywhere

Can already do this with or without owning a bed

-easier to get out of bed

Disagree: It'll be harder to get up after a night on the ground thanks to the pain.

-sex without the mattress bouncing up and down with every thrust

But rug burns

-less tossing and turning

Subjective to the individual

Cons

I've explained what the actual cons are

Advice: You do need a soft layer of some kind underneath you, whether its a yoga mat or a foam mattress topper. If you don't have carpet with underlay then you may need more, sleeping directly on top of a rock hard surface is a bit much, you will need a yoga mat or something or your hips will get too sore.

Right, because 1/4th inch of padding is going to equate to even the most modest mattress.

My advice is if you want to address your posture, then do it by making sure your spine is in a neutral position when you sleep. Flat backed on the floor, or even on the side on the floor, this is impossible.

Get a mattress that is right for you, and further strengthen your posture through appropriate exercise.

[iBundy]

lol @ anything

I'm on a strict nothing routine

I don't even exist in space/time

brb living in a vacuum

I'm posting this telekinetically

[CostaDelSalford]

INB4 OPs spine disintergrates.

[samir316]

I sleep on a mattress cover without an actual mattress. Started in 2012 due to 2 herniated disks.

When stuff felt better I could never go back to a bed.

[SupJeff]

what kind of floor are we talking? carpet? hardwood? concrete? what kind of carpet?

we need specifics for maximum gains OP

[nzgs]

Get a memory foam mattress, it's only spring mattresses that bend the spine like that.

[Sakeoe]

lol OP is one of these beta's that still sleep and have a floor.

no sleep crew.
no floor crew.

[JaxBrah]

any male who indulges in any type of comfort or even the smallest form of pleasure other than raw animalistic doggy style sex is a beta *******.

no mattress
no exess water (1 cup a day max to be closest to hunter gathers who had to conserve water)
no vehicle, i dominate animals and ride them
no house not hand-built by me
no umbrella
no job
no cell phone
no bath tub
no toilet
no modern medicine. only betas cant re-cast their own broken brones
no rubber-sole shoes
no underwear

[stuntinonjos]

srsly.. the floor is GOAT when you're uncomfortable in bed

[Itaney]

brb exchanging feathers for needles
brb balancing on Mount Everest peak with pillow
brb sleeping on pillow full of surprises

[FullSack]

Not sure if bait or just delusion, but I'll bite for amusement and even deconstruct some of this:



Did you know that a lot of animals (including our closely related monkeys and gorillas) have nests, dens, or make actual MATTRESSES out of natural materials? I wonder why that is. I wonder why an animal that spends the majority of its life just trying to survive would go to so much trouble to make a nest instead of sleeping on the cold fuking ground in the middle of nowhere. Surely it's because the animal has been conned into nest making like some Beta, right? Surely no Alpha Silverback actually makes its own nest, right?

Surely it's not natural for organisms to seek pleasure and avoid pain, right? Go figure part of what makes us human is when we can shut these instincts off and do what is rational or logical, not what is instinctual. If anything, intentionally sleeping in the floor is less instinctual than sleeping in a bed, because you are knowingly, willfully hurting yourself. Now as for the logic surrounding that (which we would assume would override instinct in this situation) that would be up to the individual, but let's look at yours:



In case you didn't know, your spine isn't straight, it's curved. The trick is maintaining the appropriate level of curvature so your spine can support your body and work correctly without impinging the host of nerves the run through it.



Picture A would be the appropriate curvature. B, C, and D are all phucked in various ways. Sleeping on the floor is going to result in C if you sleep flat on your back. It would result in something that would resemble Scoliosis if you slept on your side, because go figure your shoulder sticks out farther than your hip when you're on the ground.

You might say to roll your shoulder forward to abate this, and you'd be right - if it weren't for the fact that this will weaken your rotator / delt from being crunched up with half your bodyweight on it all night.

Pillowtops aren't the answer - what is the answer is a mattress that supports your back in the right places so when you sleep, your back is as close to the correct "default" posture as possible so your discs can hydrate while not under compression.



Additional pressure against the parts of your body that are contacting the ground (and not a cushioned mattress) would mean those areas would go numb, read: have no circulation)



Addressed above



Also higher level of particulates in the air the closer your get to the ground, so the air quality is worse.



You can buy a bed that is roughly the size of a single person sleeping bag.



Only the sound of your joints dying



Can already do this with or without owning a bed



Disagree: It'll be harder to get up after a night on the ground thanks to the pain.



But rug burns



Subjective to the individual




I've explained what the actual cons are



Right, because 1/4th inch of padding is going to equate to even the most modest mattress.

My advice is if you want to address your posture, then do it by making sure your spine is in a neutral position when you sleep. Flat backed on the floor, or even on the side on the floor, this is impossible.

Get a mattress that is right for you, and further strengthen your posture through appropriate exercise.

[ttuTRAP]

Anyone with a v taper knows the first picture is bull****

I'm trying to visualizes the spine when laying on your back and it seems like your back is just bowing out to meet the ground in the same fashion as a chair but less extreme. A bed on the other hand allows your upper back and buttt to sink in, shortening the distance the spine can travel which puts your spine in a better position to off set the muscle lengthening caused by bad daily posture.

[alphafreak]

Get on my level OP I sleep on the floor and this is my pillow.

[Polaris]

I sleep on the floor too, to me its comfortable. Not saying I dislike beds, but I sure as hell dont mind the floor and I love simplicity.

[supman160]

We homeless now.

[CookieDoughBrah]

Lol at you op. I'm gonna cut out everything, and cease to exist. Test will surge through my body with the force of a million waterfalls.

[Rocawear11]

****ing lost it at majority of replies ITT.
Actually thought no mattress was a big misc joke until I got into the whole minimalism thing and started seeing videos on youtube about no mattress.

brb bringing girls home "oh by the way I sleep on the floor, that cool?"

[Lpenny]

Strong necro

I sleep on the floor though, feelsgoodman

[Bownage666]

I did let my gf sleep in the bed and me sleep on the floor one time when she was pissed at me haha but that didn't last long.

beta_

[ESlong]

Lol jus LOL at sleeping above land. On a sleep underwater cycle for past few months and noticed srs gains both mental and physical.
Brb more test
Brb clean when i wake up
Brb no need to grab glass of water to drink my morning multivitamins
Brb do no oxygen and no matteress in one go
Brb get more attention when i go out now
Brb swim gains
Brb cuck all the beta fish and sea creatures.

Leave medocracy behind and get underwater.

[vinchit]

hard bed crew

[RiceBrah93]

Lol jus LOL at sleeping above land. On a sleep underwater cycle for past few months and noticed srs gains both mental and physical.
Brb more test
Brb clean when i wake up
Brb no need to grab glass of water to drink my morning multivitamins
Brb do no oxygen and no matteress in one go
Brb get more attention when i go out now
Brb swim gains
Brb cuck all the beta fish and sea creatures.

Leave medocracy behind and get underwater.

Lol if you don't sleep in a volcano. Test and lava super saiyan gains through the roof

[Redfish225]

Strong user name to what you put in your mouth correlation. My Tempurpedic is awesome.

This^^^

Best sleep ever, one of the best choices Ive ever made.

[andrewwkdude]

Can confirm. I've slept on a small futon pad for the past two years. Sadly i just got a foam mattress so i wont be doing it anymore. But i still wont be using a brd frame or box cover.

[jaries12]

I'm on no shelter, no food. Test has increased by 9000% and accelerating.