***The Official Syria/Iraq war thread***

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[LukeLissen]

Here is your 'moderate' Assad regime forces in Syria ...














These rabid Shia Islamist jihadists are the bulk of Assad-Putin-Khomeini's ground forces in Syria, backed up by Assad armored force and Russian air power. Putin and Assad are supporting these terrorists. If they ever get their way they'll set up a Shia Islamist Sharia terrorist extremist jihadist theocracy in Syria. How can any red-blooded Western man support these evil terrorists? I'm being slightly flippant of course, but hopefully you get the point.

[TheAdz95]

Luke the Syrian government troops and their allies aren't the ones in question.
Their opponents however are, the real jihadists. The ones supported by the gulf states that yell allahu ackbar.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out who the inbreds are.

[babynology]

There are many different forces at play in the region since the two countries became modern states after World War I when the border was established.

Read more: Wikipedia

[LukeLissen]

Luke the Syrian government troops and their allies aren't the ones in question.
Their opponents however are, the real jihadists. The ones supported by the gulf states that yell allahu ackbar.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out who the inbreds are.

LOL thank you for responding with the exact hypocrisy I expected.

Of course the true reality is that every 'side' are 'the ones in question' in this war.


There are truly only two real overriding sides to this conflict however...


The Russian-Iranian side backed up primarily with foreign Iraqi and Iranian and Lebanese Shia Islamist-jihadists, and the West's side supporting native Syrian Sunni Islamist-jihadists and actual true Syrian Secularists under the Syrian National Coalition umbrella. The Shia Islamists backing Assad-Putin are no less barbaric than the ones backing the West, and in many cases those Shia Islamists are about as brutal and barbaric as it gets.

Its just like the same ****ers screaming at Saudi-Arabia while praising Iran while screaming about SA's executions. Are you for real? No, you aren't if you do that. You are either lying or not living in reality if you do that. Iran has executed nearly double the number SA has this year.



Neither side can win the argument of moral high ground or low ground, but we could debate it uselessly for eternity. If you really wanna argue morality then it would be rather easy to put the Assad regime well down into the moral low ground far moreso than any other group except maybe ISIS' depravity. However, the Assad regime has targeted and killed 100 times more civilian noncombatants than anyone including ISIS in this war. That certainly doesn't make ISIS any less amoral than the Assad regime, it just means that the Assad regime has been far more effective in its moral depravity than ISIS. No other group in Syria even comes close.



Ultimately it comes down to who you'd rather see succeed - the Russian-Iranian-Shia alliance, or the West-Syrian Sunni alliance. THAT is without a doubt and by far the most important question in any and all of this.

[Vugluskr]

Neither side can win the argument of moral high ground or low ground, but we could debate it uselessly for eternity. If you really wanna argue morality then it would be rather easy to put the Assad regime well down into the moral low ground far moreso than any other group except maybe ISIS' depravity.

LOL yeah ok. On one hand you've got Assad: an officially elected leader of a sovereign state. On the other hand you have a bunch of terrorists funded by other countries. But there's no difference whatsoever.

[LukeLissen]

...
Assad: an officially elected leader
...

LOL!


First, Assad is not a legitimately elected leader. He's a dictator from a long-lived dictatorship passed down from his father and part of a dictatorship that has ruled Syria since 1963 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_S..._d%27%C3%A9tat). That part isn't even debatable and laughable for you to even suggest.

However, in the grand scheme of things being legitimately elected or not is kinda sorta important but its not the most important thing as far as the decisions of western persons should go.

The single most important overriding question is - 'is this leader is an ally, a so-so question mark, or an enemy?'

Assad has made himself an enemy of the West and an ally of our opponents, while at the same time the bulk of the real Syrian revolution has clearly been allies of the West since day 1 in 2011.

I know who I'm supporting. hbu? You supporting the enemies of the US and West?

[Vugluskr]

LOL!


First, Assad is not a legitimately elected leader. He's a dictator from a long-lived dictatorship passed down from his father and part of a dictatorship that has ruled Syria since 1963 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_S..._d%27%C3%A9tat). That part isn't even debatable and laughable for you to even suggest.

However, in the grand scheme of things being legitimately elected or not is kinda sorta important but its not the most important thing as far as the decisions of western persons should go.

The single most important overriding question is - 'is this leader is an ally, a so-so question mark, or an enemy?'

Assad has made himself an enemy of the West and an ally of our opponents, while at the same time the bulk of the real Syrian revolution has clearly been allies of the West since day 1 in 2011.

I know who I'm supporting. hbu? You supporting the enemies of the US and West?

Like I said, he is a leader of a sovereign state. If you held an election in Syria today, he would win quite easily. Unless you are a citizen of Syria your opinion of him is entirely irrelevant.

As far as who is an ally and who isn't, there are plenty of people in this world that don't accept western values. You are not going to bomb all of them. It's not physically possible. You are not going to remove them all through color revolutions because there are too many of them. Not to mention, the more you do it the more difficult it gets.

Oh and to answer your question, I support being left the **** alone. As someone that actually has to earn a living the old-fashioned way (you know, one that doesn't involve standing in line at the welfare office) I support not being $19 trillion in debt as a result of fighting one pointless war after another.
(I know, I know, Kremlin shill, Putin supporter, etc... don't bother, I'll show myself out).

[LukeLissen]

If you held an election in Syria today, he would win quite easily.

LOL if you actually believe this.

No son no he wouldn't

[Vugluskr]

LOL if you actually believe this.

No son no he wouldn't

First of all, I am not your son. There is a good chance I'm older than you.

And second, why is this so hard to believe? Even mainstream western media has a hard time denying Assad's strong support at home.

For example: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/06...unni-majority/

[Stizzel]

First of all, I am not your son. There is a good chance I'm older than you.

And second, why is this so hard to believe? Even mainstream western media has a hard time denying Assad's strong support at home.

For example: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/06...unni-majority/

Careful bro, speak too much truth and he's going to expose you as a kremlin agent

[Fire8085]

LOL!

I know who I'm supporting. hbu? You supporting the enemies of the US and West?

Spoken like a true idiot.

How much are you paid to post nonsense on message boards?

[Fire8085]

Moderate Rebels and Al-Nusra Ban Women from Wearing Make-Up in Rural Idlib
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/...n-rural-idlib/

The U.S. backed moderate rebels from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) – alongside their allies from the Syrian Al-Qaeda group “Jabhat Al-Nusra”, Faylaq Al-Sham, and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham – have issued a ban on make-up and hygienic products in the Idlib Governorate city of Ma’arat Al-Nu’man in order to maintain “Islamic customs”.

[TheAdz95]

Moderate Rebels and Al-Nusra Ban Women from Wearing Make-Up in Rural Idlib
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/...n-rural-idlib/

The U.S. backed moderate rebels from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) � alongside their allies from the Syrian Al-Qaeda group �Jabhat Al-Nusra�, Faylaq Al-Sham, and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham � have issued a ban on make-up and hygienic products in the Idlib Governorate city of Ma�arat Al-Nu�man in order to maintain �Islamic customs�.

'Moderate' rebels strike again.

[AlKhas]

Moderate Rebels and Al-Nusra Ban Women from Wearing Make-Up in Rural Idlib
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/...n-rural-idlib/

The U.S. backed moderate rebels from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) – alongside their allies from the Syrian Al-Qaeda group “Jabhat Al-Nusra”, Faylaq Al-Sham, and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham – have issued a ban on make-up and hygienic products in the Idlib Governorate city of Ma’arat Al-Nu’man in order to maintain “Islamic customs”.

Who called any of them moderate?

And the last thing to be worried about in a civil war which has killed hundreds of thousands, displaced millions, and created a global refugee crisis along with the Islamic State expanding and killing civilians, is make-up.

[GreatOldOne]

First of all, I am not your son. There is a good chance I'm older than you.

And second, why is this so hard to believe? Even mainstream western media has a hard time denying Assad's strong support at home.

For example: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/06...unni-majority/

The election was boycotted by the opposition,

[muscleserge]

LOL!


First, Assad is not a legitimately elected leader. He's a dictator from a long-lived dictatorship passed down from his father and part of a dictatorship that has ruled Syria since 1963 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_S..._d%27%C3%A9tat). That part isn't even debatable and laughable for you to even suggest.

However, in the grand scheme of things being legitimately elected or not is kinda sorta important but its not the most important thing as far as the decisions of western persons should go.

The single most important overriding question is - 'is this leader is an ally, a so-so question mark, or an enemy?'

Assad has made himself an enemy of the West and an ally of our opponents, while at the same time the bulk of the real Syrian revolution has clearly been allies of the West since day 1 in 2011.

I know who I'm supporting. hbu? You supporting the enemies of the US and West?

Wow, what an idiot you are, post by post.

Why don't you explain how Assad is an enemy? What has he done to the US in order to be an enemy? Did he attack the US? Did he violate its sovereignty? Did he interfere with US's politics? Looks like its the US who is Assad's and Syria's enemy, lets see, sponsoring "rebels" to over through the government, check. Invading sovereign soil, check. Politically and financially support hostile states against a sovereign Syria, check. Interfering with internal politics, check. Looks like the villain isn't Assad.

[Boxman]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-across-border

Turkey violates Iraqi airspace thousands of times, illegally invades territory

Prime minister�s office says the deployment of an armoured regiment �is considered a serious violation of Iraqi sovereignty.

Iraq has told Turkey to �immediately� withdraw forces, including tanks and artillery, it has deployed in the country�s north without Baghdad�s consent, the office of the prime minister, Haider al-Abadi, said on Saturday.

�The Iraqi authorities call on Turkey to ... immediately withdraw from Iraqi territory,� the statement said.

[AlKhas]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-across-border

Turkey violates Iraqi airspace thousands of times, illegally invades territory

Yes, but they are going in there with the permission of Barzani, leader of Iraqi Kurdistan to train Peshmerga against ISIS

[Fire8085]

Wow, what an idiot you are, post by post.

Why don't you explain how Assad is an enemy? What has he done to the US in order to be an enemy? Did he attack the US? Did he violate its sovereignty? Did he interfere with US's politics? Looks like its the US who is Assad's and Syria's enemy, lets see, sponsoring "rebels" to over through the government, check. Invading sovereign soil, check. Politically and financially support hostile states against a sovereign Syria, check. Interfering with internal politics, check. Looks like the villain isn't Assad.

I wouldn't pay attention to Luke, he's mentally unstable.

[Boxman]

Yes, but they are going in there with the permission of Barzani, leader of Iraqi Kurdistan to train Peshmerga against ISIS

Iraq summons Turkey's ambassador over troop deployment near Mosul
http://news.yahoo.com/iraqi-presiden...105629152.html

Iraqi govt obviously doesn't believe that BS. Turks are there to protect ISIS (or ISIS supply lines).

[Boxman]

https://twitter.com/hashtag/turkey?lang=en

Haidar Sumeri ********@IraqiSecurity \ Iraqi MPs calling for #Turkey's troops to be given 24hrs to leave northern #Iraq or be bombed by the Iraqi Air Force.

[TheAdz95]

https://twitter.com/hashtag/turkey?lang=en

[Fire8085]

https://twitter.com/hashtag/turkey?lang=en

I wonder how the US will respond to this.

[AlKhas]

Iraq summons Turkey's ambassador over troop deployment near Mosul
http://news.yahoo.com/iraqi-presiden...105629152.html

Iraqi govt obviously doesn't believe that BS. Turks are there to protect ISIS (or ISIS supply lines).

Yes, I bet the same people who gave them permission to come in(Peshmerga and Barzani) love ISIS too! Oh wait...

[Boxman]

"ISIS Sees Turkey as Its Ally': Former Islamic State Member Reveals Turkish Army Cooperation
http://europe.newsweek.com/isis-and-...turkish-282920

[Boxman]

1/3 of marriages on Turkey are child marriages

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Def...&NewsCatID=339

[Fire8085]

Iraqi PM asks NATO to press Turkey to pull troops from north Iraq
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mi...0TR14F20151208

We just encourage both sides to resolve their differences here, whatever disagreements there may be


Good thing we are close friends with Turkey and support their decisions of invading other countries.

This has to be a joke...taking in an army into foreign soil is encouraged to resolve their disagreements? How would the US feel if someone sent troops here against our will.

The US is just going to wait for Russia to make an actual move to commit so then they could use some bullsh*t excuse to go abroad again.

[ZenBowman]

Good news, Homs is back under the control of the SAA.

https://www.rt.com/news/325275-syria-rebels-leave-homs/

Hundreds of Syrian civilians and anti-Assad rebels have begun leaving the last district they control in the city of Homs, under a ceasefire deal recently reached with the government.

The rebels� departure from al-Waer neighborhood, part of peace deal local authorities recently agreed on, started on Wednesday and is aimed at clearing the city of gunmen and weapons, Governor of Homs Talal al-Barazi announced, according to the SANA news agency.

[NVious]

Assad's opinion about armed opposition and negotiation with them 7:43
Government has been offering unconditional amnesty to rebels who stop fighting and return to non-violent life, with success 9:41
Reasons, why Syrians are leaving Syria 18:13
Should the people in Europe be afraid of the refugees 19:55
The most precious thing Assad is trying to protect 20:57
Can Assad step down and leave his office 29:48