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We're moderate, see? Syrian 'rebels' parade the severed heads of ISIS members
John Hall
Daily Mail
Mon, 08 Jun 2015 19:38 UTC
Rebel groups battling the Islamic State in Syria have proudly paraded the severed heads of their defeated enemies, in the latest sign that all sides in the conflict are resorting to shocking barbarism.
A coalition of anti-Assad forces were stationed in the town of Azaz, close to the Turkish border, when ISIS militants prepared to carry out a suicide bomb attack followed by a massive assault.
But the rebels were tipped off about the attack in advance and were prepared for the jihadis when they arrived - slaughtering them in the streets of the Azaz before posing with the extremists' severed heads and displaying their mutilated corpses in the centre of the city.
Large crowds of cheering locals took to the streets of Azaz in the aftermath of the failed attack, which was actually under the control of ISIS for several months in 2013.
The ritual humiliation and public exhibition of the butchered corpses was in fact highly symbolic - with the jihadis' severed heads displayed in exactly the same location that ISIS themselves would show off the bodies of those they had brutally executed after Friday prayers.
Describing the attack, one anonymous rebel fighter told VICE News: 'Last night, [ISIS] sent a suicide truck to Sawran, which is the frontline now next to Azaz, but we had info of the operation,'
'So they targeted the truck with a missile... Then the fighters following the truck were caught,' he added.
On the subject of the subsequent beheadings of ISIS fighters, the rebel soldier said: 'It is not the way we act... but it's sort of revenge for all the civilians and leaders they killed.'
The news comes as US-led aircraft bombed ISIS fighters while the jihadis were battling rival Syrian rebels, including Al-Qaeda loyalists, in a first such intervention, a monitoring group said.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights described the overnight raids in northern Aleppo as an intervention on the side of the rival rebels, which include forces who have been targeted previously by US-led strikes.
'The coalition carried out at least four strikes overnight targeting IS positions in the town of Suran,' the UK-based Observatory said.
The US military, in a statement, said an air raid near Aleppo destroyed an ISIS ant-aircraft artillery piece and a jihadist fighting position.
'It's the first time that the international coalition has supported non-Kurdish opposition forces fighting the Islamic State,' Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP.
He said at least eight IS fighters were killed in the strikes and another 20 were injured.
Syria expert Thomas Pierret said the raids showed Washington was intent on preventing IS from expanding in Aleppo province, which is currently largely divided between regime and rebel control.
'Washington seems really determined to stop IS from advancing against the rebels in Aleppo,' said Pierret, a professor at the University of Edinburgh.
The strikes showed Washington's 'pragmatism', he said, noting that Al Qaeda affiliate 'Al-Nusra only constitutes a small part of the rebel forces that are fighting IS,' in Aleppo, with moderate forces holding more territory.
Syrian state TV said government forces launched air strikes near Suran on 'terrorists', the term used by Damascus for all those fighting President Bashar al-Assad. It gave no further details.
ISIS captured Suran a week ago and has been fighting an alliance of rebels including Al-Nusra and Islamist Ahrar al-Sham in the surrounding area.
Both Al Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham have been targeted in US-led raids and like ISIS, Al-Nusra is blacklisted as a 'terrorist organisation' by Washington.
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06-18-2015, 04:17 PM #301
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06-24-2015, 05:01 PM #303
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This is probably a better map since it makes a distinction between Islamists rebels in the North(Islamic Front, Jabhat al Nusra) supported by Qatar and Turkey, and Southern Front(FSA) rebels in the South who are fighting for democratic goals and supported by Jordan, USA and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia probably only supports Islamists around the Damascus area - Jaysh al Islam who are Salafist but differentiate with Nusra and Muslim Brotherhood leaning Salafists in their attitude towards KSA.
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06-25-2015, 07:18 PM #304
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Boxman you seem to accuse the West of funding Al Qaeda, ISIS and so on. But why forget Assad's role in this?
WikiLeaks documents on how Assad helped Al Qaeda and the Jihad against USA IN Iraq
https://wikileaks.org/cable/2010/02/10DAMASCUS158.html
And here is Assad releasing Salafist and Muslim Brotherhood leaders from prison back in 2011, who went on to become leaders of Salafi groups such as Ahrar al Sham, Jabhat al Nusra and Jaysh al Islam
https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/...07357656043520
"He didn't create it, he facilitated it. It was his salvation. He wanted a pretext to crush and re-secure the country. But then after facilitating it, he couldn't control events and couldn't crush re-secure the country."
And its also a fact how Assad helped ISIS by both attacking Syrian rebels whilst leaving each other. One of the reasons for the rise of ISIS.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...trikes-us-says
And not to mention Assad being the biggest oil buyer of ISIS - ironically the middleman between the two is a Christian.
http://www.businessinsider.com/revea...is-2015-3?IR=TLast edited by AlKhas; 06-25-2015 at 07:23 PM.
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06-26-2015, 02:50 PM #305
Assad's biggest problem is ISIS - they've seized huge chunks of his territory and killed thousands of his soldiers. They're nothing but a scourge on Syria. The central govt would be winning the civil war already were it not for ISIS; they are by far the strongest force opposing them.
What's more probable, that a Shiite govt created the world's most dangerous Sunni movement, on their own territory, knowing they'd have to fight them? Or that extremist Sunni govts in the region (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc) created ISIS to further their own foreign policy goals, with the tacit approval of the United States?
Gee, I wonder. As for Syria's alleged cooperation with ISIS, the only reason their forces weren't fighting ISIS in the beginning, was because they knew they'd get their asses kicked. So they concentrated on weaker opponents (the other rebels) instead; hoping to score victories and prove to the public that the regime is still in control. Now that ISIS is actively attacking regime territory (no doubt spurred on by Qatar, Saudi, or even the CIA), Assad has no choice to but to fight them. And the Syrians are mostly losing.
If Syria created ISIS none of this would be happening. With that said, I've no doubt Assad has tiptoed around ISIS and tried to bribe them off, and I'm sure he's tried to pit the different rebels against each other (a matter of survival), but the premise that Assad is this boogeyman behind ISIS, is completely ridiculous. We all know who's really behind ISIS and other groups like them. It's our oil-rich, Sunni extremist Gulf "allies" --- you know, the same people that funded the Taliban, Al-Queda, and all manner of extremists before ISIS came along.Last edited by Boxman; 06-26-2015 at 02:56 PM.
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06-27-2015, 07:33 PM #307
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...-offensive.php
These weapons were never supplied to the Iraqi army, these were weapons that the US sent to the rebels in Syria, now they're in ISIS hands, gg wp.Last edited by vvvaaa; 06-27-2015 at 07:46 PM.
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06-28-2015, 02:30 PM #308
Those article don't prove jack sh*t, other than the Syrian govt selectively attacking weaker rebels while avoiding ISIS and being forced to buy oil from ISIS because they're under embargo. The Syrian economy and military desperately need oil and have lost control of most of it. No conspiracy there.
If you're quick to believe shady conspiracies why do you deny the much more obvious and well documented conspiracy of the Qatari government facilitating the funding of ISIS? Look into Kuwait and Saudi Arabia also, and while you're at it, check into how many other Sunni extremist groups these countries have funded all over the world, and how many innocents have died at their hands. The entire situation in Syria itself is due to them; the whole revolution has been externally funded and organized from the start.
Even if you're bullsh*t theory about Assad creating ISIS were true, it pales in comparison to the horrors that have been inflicted upon the world by America's allies in the Persian Gulf. If ever there was an "Axis of Evil" that needed to be tackled, it's them.
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06-28-2015, 03:19 PM #309
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06-29-2015, 08:25 PM #310
There's no shortage of reporting about this:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ding-isis.html
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/p...unding-of-isis
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2806S20140309
Biden himself slipped up and admitted it:
"The next month, US Vice President Joe Biden went a step further, explaining that Turkey, Qatar, the UAE and Saudi Arabia ‘were so determined to take down Assad … they poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad … [including] al Nusra and al Qaeda and extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world … [and then] this outfit called ISIL."
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06-30-2015, 04:01 PM #311
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Did you bother to read your articles?
"At present, there is no credible evidence that the Saudi government is financially supporting ISIS"
I already admitted there are private donations, but the very articles you posted admit there is no evidence that the Saudi government funds them. The last one is an accusation by Maliki LOL. I mean its not like he's got any links to the Iranian regime who hates Saudis.
Once again. Nothing from WikiLeaks
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Iranian and Assad backed Afghan Shia militia fighting inside Syria against Syrians. But keep listening to Boxman and his lies about rebels consisting mostly foreigners.
Numbers around 700
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liwa_F...fghan_militia)
http://jihadintel.meforum.org/group/...-al-fatemiyoun
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Foreign mercenaries? Or do you mean Syrian Islamists released by Assad
https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/...07357656043520
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TheBlackAdonis facts-
-Hates the west
-hates Israel
-hates Iran and her allies
There's only one title I can chalk up judging from these facts.
Adonis is a neo ottoman.
Who do you support in the Middle East Adonis?
Is it the Saudis? I doubt that because Israel and saud work together.
Is it Egypt in Africa?
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07-06-2015, 03:28 AM #316
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07-07-2015, 05:51 PM #318
In other words, you're a Sunni extremist.
Your posts are indicative of the real mindset held by so-called "moderates" that want secular regimes overthrown in the Middle East.
Also very telling that you hate the Saudis not because of their disgusting Wahabbi-inspried policies, their human rights abuses, their treatment of women, or their support for terrorists all over the world.... no you hate them because they allowed American troops to be stationed in "the holy lands" (your words). Getting all worked up over that, of all things? How f*cking primitive and religiously brainwashed are you? You people make me ashamed for the human race. It's the year 2015... and look at you people.
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07-26-2015, 06:00 PM #323
Wave of assassinations against ISIS member inside mosul by new militia
http://www.iraqoilreport.com/news/mo...cupiers-15337/
MOSUL - Members of the so-called Islamic State (IS) group are being hunted in and around Mosul.
Dozens of militants have been killed, mostly gunned down by assassins, over the past two months as the group that calls itself Kataib al-Mosul – the Mosul Brigades, in English – has launched a violent insurgency.
"We finally decided to end our silence," said Fawaz al-Badrani, the pseudonym used by a leader of Kataib al-Mosul, who spoke to Iraq Oil Report by phone. "What we mainly sought for is the liberation of Mosul, even if it means cooperating with the devil himself."
Badrani claims to have been a Republican Guard officer under Saddam Hussein. In addition to targeting IS fighters directly, his group has helped feed locations of IS military positions and other information to pro-government forces and the U.S.-led international coalition that has been conducting regular air strikes around Mosul and other occupied parts of Iraq.
"The work requires a lot of cooperation with all parties outside the city, especially the international coalition," he said.
Iraqi military leaders confirmed they are working with the group.
"We have cooperation and coordination with Kataib al-Mosul," said Lt. Gen. Riyad Jalal Tawfiq, the commander of Iraqi ground forces.
There are 500 active duty members and at least 1,700 members waiting to be mobilized for "the big battle," Badrani said, which will come "after government security forces are closer to the walls of the city."
The group's ******** page – which appeared a year ago as a simple forum for lamenting the loss of the historic city – is now updated with incident reports. Those, plus reports from Mosul citizens and IS members in the city, create a picture of an increasingly effective insurgency that appears to have killed at least 52 IS members in shootings and bombings in June alone, and more than 26 IS fighters so far in July.
Those figures do not include the IS death toll resulting from coalition air strikes in and around Mosul, which appear to have benefited from intelligence provided by Kataib al-Mosul.
Kataib al-Mosul is planning to continue its "assassinations and ambushes," while also targeting its leaders and searching out IS group meeting places and ammunition storage, Badrani said.
Kataib al-Mosul's activities have not gone unnoticed.
The IS group has been systematically rounding up and executing alleged Kataib al-Mosul members, people accused of spying for the organization and those blamed for failing to betray Kataib al-Mosul members to the IS group, according to reports from inside the city.
On July 1, for example, 15 Mosul residents were rounded up and killed, and IS members were ordered to begin covering their faces to avoid being identified, according to an IS member in Mosul.
In mid June, the IS group published a video in which 16 men dressed in orange prison jumpsuits, some of whom confess to being members of Kataib al-Mosul, are executed. The authenticity of the video - which was apparently produced largely to frighten prospective Kataib al-Mosul sympathizers - could not be confirmed.
Nonetheless, its brutal content emphasizes the seriousness with which the IS group is taking the threat of a burgeoning insurgency. The video depicts four of the accused men being put into a car, which is blown up by RPG fire; five are put in a cage, which is submerged in a swimming pool; and seven are decapitated by explosive rings rigged around their necks.
Roots of the insurgency
After IS militants took over Mosul and other parts of northern Iraq in June 2014, they faced little local resistance.
That was partly because the IS group had forged alliances with members of the Saddam Hussein-era military leadership who had been at the forefront of the post-2003 insurgency. No serious opposition stood up, or stood a chance.
Some of the officers have taken positions in the highest levels of the IS organization. Other elements of the historically secular Baath Party made temporary alliances with the IS Group to fight the Iraqi government, but they were never natural allies of religious extremists.
The more secular Baathist elements were marginalized when the IS group consolidated power in late 2014, according to Mosul residents and Mosul-based IS members. They split off, and again chose to fight as insurgents.
Kataib al-Mosul is essentially a merger of "the former military leaders who have worked in Saddam's army, and the security officers in post-Saddam security forces, with a number of academics and university students, and clergy and other segments of society," Badrani said.
Tawfiq, the Iraqi ground forces commander, acknowledged that Saddam Hussein-era officers are involved in leading Kataib al-Mosul, but said the Iraqi military coordinates with the group through its other components.
"Yes, some of them were officers before 2003, and some others after that," Tawfiq said. "But we don't deal with all of them. We deal with some of them - people who are nationalists and want their lands to be liberated from Daesh."
Badrani blames former Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki for creating the conditions in Mosul that allowed the IS group to take over, arguing that Maliki "neglected the security chiefs of the people of Mosul and took them away from security decision-making in the city, which was supposed to be managed by local police officers for their knowledge of the geography and demography of the city."
Badrani said the IS group made a similar mistake in neglecting localized leadership, which helped motivate the formation of Kataib al-Mosul.
"Good citizens of the city realized that the IS militant group came to destroy the city," Badrani said. Kataib al-Mosul was formed "to punish them by refusing a repeat of the Maliki government's policy toward the city."
Badrani said the members of Kataib al-Mosul who assassinate IS members are the same who fought the U.S. military, "because of their vast experience gained over the six years period in urban warfare, making IEDs, sticky bombs and assassinations."
Around 500 members focus on day-to-day operations, logistics and other support, including communications.
An operation to retake Mosul is often talked about – by the U.S.-led coalition, by the Iraqi government, and by the al-Hashid al-Shabi (Popular Mobilization) fighters – but it does not appear imminent. Militias being trained in Kurdistan-controlled parts of Ninewa province, including those backed by Mosul's most well-known politicians – former Ninewa Gov. Atheel Nujaifi and Iraqi Vice President Usama Nujaifi – remain fully outside the city.
Badrani said Kataib al-Mosul does not coordinate directly with those forces.
The group "has no political or governmental dependency; it aims to liberate the city," Badrani said. "Our work will end with Daesh leaving the city," he said.
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07-27-2015, 12:31 PM #324
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07-27-2015, 07:34 PM #325
Islamic state abandons Hasakah city due to coalition airstrikes
https://twitter.com/Flea1337/status/625751148738293760
heh those ineffective airstrikes that can't stop the islamists...
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08-01-2015, 03:59 PM #326
US Commander praises YPG
Marine Corps Brig. Gen. Kevin Killea, then commander of the Marine Corps Warfighting Lab, in July 2014 speaks about the Advanced Warfighting Experiment in Hawaii. (Marine Corps photo)
A U.S. commander’s praise Friday for the Syrian Kurdish group fighting ISIS widened a growing rift with Turkey on the use of the Air Force base at Incirlik in the anti-ISIS campaign.
“The YPG (People’s Protection Units) for the coalition against ISIL (another acronym for ISIS) has been a very credible and reliable partner,” Marine Brig Gen. Kevin Killea.
U.S. airstrikes have enabled YPG ground units, backed by Syrian Arab and Christian fighters, to inflict several defeats on ISIS at Kobane, Tal Abyad and elsewhere, and the support was expected to continue, said Killea, chief of staff for Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve.
Turkey’s announcement last week that the U.S. could use the airbase at Incirlik, about 70 miles from the Syrian border, for airstrikes against ISIS was seen as a potential “game changer” by American officials, but Turkey has since sought to put conditions on sorties out of Incirlik.
The airbase “can be used at any moment when considered necessary” by coalition jets, but “support for the YPG is not one of the elements of the agreement,” Tanju Bilgic, a spokesman for the Turkish foreign ministry, said Thursday.
Turkey and the U.S. also have disagreed on the status of territory retaken from ISIS along the Turkish-Syrian border. Turkey has called for the creation of a no-fly zone in the area to allow for the return of Syrian refugees, while the U.S. has backed a so-called “safe zone” cleared of ISIS.
In a video briefing to the Pentagon from the region, Killea said the disagreements with Turkey on Incirlik and other matters were being worked out. “Right now we are in dialogue and in discussions with the government of Turkey,” Killea said. If a deal can be arranged, “we think that is going to have a very positive impact in the fight against ISIL,” Killea said.
Last week, Turkey launched its first airstrikes against ISIS but Kurdish groups have charged that Turkey was using the airstrikes and the Incirlik issue as cover to resume attacks against the PKK (Kurdish Workers Party) in northwestern Iraq.
The Turkish daily Hurriyet, citing intelligence sources, said that Turkish Air Force F-16s have attacked PKK positions in waves of 30 and 40 jets. The airstrikes began on July 24 and continued on July 26 and July 28. Turkey has also aimed cross-border artillery fire at the PKK, the newspaper said.
On other issues, Killea said he could not speak to the reported capture of a Syrian moderate leader by the Al Nusra Front radical Islamist group in Syria but he denied that Syrian fighters trained by the U.S. had also been abducted.
Reports of the capture of Col. Nadim al-Hassan “had nothing to do with the new Syrian fighters who were trained and equipped,” Killea said. “We’ve had zero indication or information that there are any captured New Syrian Forces that we’ve trained.”
In Iraq, Killea said that the Iraqi Security Forces continued “shaping operations” for an eventual push to retake the Anbar provincial capital of Ramadi from ISIS. Killea declined to give a timeline for the beginning of the assault but said the coming battle “promises to test the mettle of the ISF.”
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08-06-2015, 03:55 PM #327
My Assyrian family fled Iran in the late 1970s and early 1980s because of the Islamic revolution. My grandparents we're both born in Kiev, Ukraine because of the Armenian/Assyrian/Greek genocide.
Assyrian family members have been forced to run very recently. Had to leave both Urmia and Mosul.
Luckily they made it into Germany recently but some of my extended family friends did not.
It's heartbreaking.Last edited by Fire8085; 08-06-2015 at 04:30 PM.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/sy...0-dead-n410881
100 died in Douma in one day alone..
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