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    ***The Official Syria/Iraq war thread***

    Since I have alot of interest in this conflict I will be posting any interesting updates ITT.



    to start off, CNN reporter from inside kobani (12/4/14)




    ISIS using vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED) to hit Syrian held Dier Ez Zor airbase, followed by an intense ground attack. (12/3/14)



    As of 12/5/14 the Syrian Arab Army claims to have regained any areas lost in that attack
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    US troops in Iraq will get immunity from prosecution

    Ambassador Stuart Jones says Iraq’s prime minister has given ‘the assurances that we need from the government’ on privileges for growing number of troops

    Stuart Jones said prime minister Haider al-Abadi has given assurances that US troops will receive immunity from prosecution. Under Iraq’s former prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, the issue was a major sticking point, ultimately leading to the decision to withdraw all remaining US troops in late 2011.

    “That was a different situation and those troops would have had a different role,” Jones said.

    “We have the assurances that we need from the government of Iraq on privileges and immunities,” he said. “It’s in the basis of our formal written communications between our governments and also based on the strategic framework agreement that is the legal basis of our partnership.”
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...l-get-immunity

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    Assad interview, Dec 4/2014

    Damascus, SANA, President Bashar al-Assad gave an interview to “Paris Match” Magazine, following is the full text of the interview:

    Question 1: Mr. President, three years into this war, and considering how things have turned out, do you regret that you haven’t managed things differently at the beginning, with the appearance of the first signs of the revolution in March 2011? Do you feel that you are responsible for what happened?

    President Assad: Even in the first days of the events, there were martyrs from the army and the police; so, since the first days of this crisis we have been facing terrorism. It is true that there were demonstrations, but they were not large in number. In such a case, there is no choice but to defend your people against terrorists. There’s no other choice. We cannot say that we regret fighting terrorism since the early days of this crisis. However, this doesn’t mean that there weren’t mistakes made in practice. There are always mistakes. Let’s be honest: had Qatar not paid money to those terrorists at that time, and had Turkey not supported them logistically, and had not the West supported them politically, things would have been different. If we in Syria had problems and mistakes before the crisis, which is normal, this doesn’t necessarily mean that the events had internal causes.

    Question 2: Your army is blamed for its excessive use of force during this war. Why are civilians shelled?

    President Assad: When a terrorist attacks you with weapons, how do you defend yourself and your people, with dialogue?! The army uses weapons when the other side uses them. For us in Syria, it is impossible to have our objective as shelling civilians. There’s no reason to shell civilians. If we are killing civilians, in other words killing our people, fighting terrorists at the same time, and fighting the states which stand against us and which support terrorists, like the Gulf countries, Turkey, and the West, how could we stand for four years? If we haven’t been defending the people, we wouldn’t have been able to stand all this pressure. Consequently, saying that we are shelling civilians doesn’t make any sense.

    Question 3: Satellite imagery of the cities of Homs and Hama show completely destroyed neighborhoods; and the United Nations, of which your country is a member, talks about 190,000 people having been killed in this war. Were all the people in those neighborhoods terrorists?

    President Assad: First of all, you need to verify the figures provided by the United Nations. What are the sources of these figures? The figures being circulated in the world, particularly in the media, are exaggerated and inaccurate. Second, images of destruction are not only obtained through satellite images, they are there actually on the ground, and they are accurate. When terrorists enter a certain region and occupy it, the army has to liberate it, and there is a battle. So, naturally, there is destruction. But in most cases, when terrorists enter a certain area, civilians flee from it. In fact, the largest number of victims in Syria is among the supporters of the state, not the other way round; and a large number of those were killed in terrorist attacks. Of course, when you have war and terrorism innocent people die. This happens everywhere in the world. But it is impossible for a state to target civilians.

    Question 4: According to the United Nations too, there are three million Syrian refugees in neighboring countries, what amounts to one eighth of Syria’s population. Are all those allied with terrorists?

    1President Assad: No, no. Those who left Syria are generally people who left because of terrorism. There are those who support terrorism, and there are those who support the state but left because of the security situation. There is also a significant number of those who do not support any side.

    Question 5: From a military perspective, do you have the means which enable you to win this war?

    President Assad: Now we are fighting states, not only gangs. Billions of dollars are spent on those gangs. They receive arms from different countries, including Turkey. So, it is not an easy war from a military perspective. Nevertheless, the Syrian Army is winning in many places. On the other hand, no one can say how this war will end or when. But the major war for them in the beginning was how to win the hearts of the Syrians; and they have lost this war. The communities which embraced terrorists have become very small, and that is the reason why the army is winning. So, we have to look at this war militarily, socially, and politically.

    Question 6: But they haven’t lost yet, since half your territories are out of your control.

    President Assad: The Syrian Army doesn’t have a presence everywhere, and it’s impossible for it to be everywhere. Consequently, in any place that the Syrian Army doesn’t have a presence, terrorists cross the borders and enter that region. But the Syrian Army has been able to regain control over any region it decided to enter. This is not a war between two armies where you can say that they took a certain part and we took another part. The war now is not like that. We are talking about terrorist groups which suddenly infiltrate a city or a village. That’s why it’s going to be a long and difficult war.

    Question 7: Many people say that the solution lies in your departure. Do you believe that your departure is the solution?

    2President Assad: The president of any state in the world takes office through constitutional measures and leaves office through constitutional measures as well. No President can be installed or deposed through chaos. The tangible evidence for this is the outcome of the French policy when they attacked Gaddafi. What was the result? Chaos ensued after Gaddafi’s departure. So, was his departure the solution? Have things improved, and has Libya become a democracy? The state is like a ship; and when there is a storm, the captain doesn’t run away and leave his ship to sink. If passengers on that ship decided to leave, the captain should be the last one to leave, not the first.

    Question 8: This means that the captain is prepared to die. You talked about Gaddafi. Do you fear facing the same fate and to meet your death like Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi?

    President Assad: A captain doesn’t think of life and death, he thinks of saving his ship. If the ship sinks, everybody will die, so we would rather save the country. But I want to stress an important point here. Remaining president had never been my objective, before, during, or after the crisis. But we as Syrians will never accept that Syria become a western puppet state. This is one of our most important objectives and principles.

    Question 9: Let’s talk about ISIS. Some people say that the Syrian regime encouraged the rise of Islamic extremists in order to divide the opposition. How do you respond to that?

    President Assad: In Syria we have a state, not a regime. Let’s agree on the terms first. Second, assuming that what you are saying is true, that we supported ISIS, this means that we have asked this organization to attack us, attack military airports, kill hundreds of soldiers, and occupy cities and villages. Where is the logic in that? What do we gain from it? Dividing and weakening the opposition, as you are saying? We do not need to undermine those elements of the opposition. The West itself is saying that it was a fake opposition. This is what Obama himself said. So, this supposition is wrong, but what is the truth? The truth is that ISIS was created in Iraq in 2006. It was the United States which occupied Iraq, not Syria. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was in American prisons, not in Syrian prisons. So, who created ISIS, Syria or the United States?

    Question 10: The Syrians we meet in Damascus talk about sleeping Jihadi cells in the West more than they talk about the war against ISIS. Isn’t that strange?

    4President Assad: Terrorism is an ideology, not an organization or a structure; and ideology doesn’t acknowledge any borders. 20 years ago, terrorism used to be exported from our region, particularly from Gulf countries, like Saudi Arabia. Now, it is coming to our region from Europe, especially from France. The largest percentage of the European terrorists coming to Syria are French; and you had a number of incidents in France. There was also an attack in Belgium against a Jewish museum. So, terrorism in Europe is no longer asleep, it is being awakened.

    Question 11: The Americans, in their war against ISIS, are tactical (temporary) allies. Do you still think that their intervention constitutes a violation of national sovereignty?

    President Assad: First, you said that it is tactical, and this is an important point. You know that tactics without a strategy do not produce results, so it will not defeat terrorism. It is an illegal intervention, first because it is not authorized by a Security Council resolution, and second because it did not respect the sovereignty of a state, Syria, in this case. So, it is an illegal intervention, and consequently constitutes a violation of sovereignty.

    Question 12: According to Agence France Presse, your air forces made at least 2,000 sorties in 40 days, and this is a huge number. When your aircraft cross the alliance’s aircraft, for instance on their way to shell Raqqa, do you coordinate or do you have a non-aggression agreement?

    President Assad: There is no direct coordination. We attack terrorism everywhere, regardless of what the United States, or the alliance it leads, is doing. You might find it strange that the number of daily Syrian air strikes against terrorists is larger than that launched by the alliance. There’s no coordination; and at the same time you need to realize that the alliance’s airstrikes are merely cosmetic.

    Question 13: But these airstrikes are helping you, and one reason why U.S. Secretary of Defence Chuck Hagel resigned is that he believed that they support your government and your positions.

    President Assad: Don’t you see that this question contradicts the earlier question, in which you said that we support ISIS? This means that we are ISIS’s enemies.

    Journalist: I said that some people say, sometimes, that you have supported ISIS to divide the opposition.

    President Assad: And I didn’t mean “you” by my remark, I meant “those” people.
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    Journalist: Since one result of the allianceís airstrikes, from an American perspective, was Chuck Hagelís resignation, do you think that the allianceís airstrikes are helping you?

    3President Assad: Terrorism cannot be destroyed from the air, and you cannot achieve results on the ground without land forces who know the geographical details of the regions and move in tandem with the airstrikes. Thatís why, and after two months of the allianceís airstrikes, there are no tangible results on the ground in that direction. And thatís why saying that the allianceís airstrikes are helping us is not true. Had these airstrikes been serious and effective, I would have said that they would be certainly useful to us. But we are the ones fighting the battles against ISIS on the ground, and we havenít felt any change, particularly that Turkey is still extending direct support to ISIS in those regions.

    Question 14: On July 14th, 2008, you stood on the presidential podium in the Champs Elysees on the sidelines of the Mediterranean summit. Today, the French government considers you an outcast. How do you feel about that?

    President Assad: The good relationship which extended from 2008 to 2011 was not based on a French initiative. It had two sides: the first was an American effort to make the French government influence the Syrian role, particularly in relation to Iran. The second side was a result of Qatar urging France to improve relations with Syria. So, the good relations with France had American and Qatari motives and were not the product of an independent will. Today, there is no difference since both administrations, I mean those of Sarkozy and Hollande, are not independent.

    Question 15: Francois Hollande still considers you an opponent. Do you believe that you can revive relations with him some time in the future?

    President Assad: The issue has nothing to do with personal relations, for I donít know him to start with. It has to do with relations between states and institutions, relations based on the interests of two nations. When there is any French official, or French government, seeking mutual interests, we will deal with them. But this administration is acting equally against the interests of our people and against the interests of the French people. As for him considering me a personal enemy, I donít see the logic of that. Iím not competing with Hollande for anything. I believe that Hollandeís competitor in France now is ISIS, because his popularity is close to that of ISIS.

    Question 16: Are there chemical weapons in Syria today, yes or no?

    President Assad: No. When we announced this, it was a clear announcement, and when we decided to abandon chemical weapons, our decision was final.

    Question 17: But U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry accuses you of violating the agreement because you used chlorine. Is that true?

    5President Assad: You can find chlorine in any house in Syria. Everyone has chlorine, and any group can use it. But we havenít used it because we have traditional weapons which are more effective than chlorine, and we do not need to use it. We are fighting terrorists, and using traditional weapons without concealing that or being shy about it. So, we donít need chlorine. These accusations do not surprise us; for when did the Americans say anything true about the crisis in Syria?

    Question 18: Have you used chemical weapons?

    President Assad: We havenít used this kind of weapons; and had we used it anywhere, tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people would have died. Itís impossible for these weapons to kill, as it was claimed last year, only one hundred people or two hundred people, particularly in areas where hundreds of thousands, and maybe millions, of Syrians live.

    Question 19: In your latest visit to Paris in November 2010, I conducted an interview with your wife, Mrs. Asmaa al-Assad. Do you miss traveling outside the borders of your country?

    President Assad: Traveling is not one of my hobbies anyway; and my visits were not for tourism, but for work. What I truly miss is Syria as it was. This is what we miss. And of course we miss the existence of a different world, a world which has logical and moral relations. At that time, we used to have great expectations for the development of our region, for more intellectual openness. We used to believe that France, with its cultural heritage, is the country which is most capable of playing this role with Syria in the Middle East.

    Question 20: Your wife used to consider herself an ambassador of modernity. How does she live in Syria, and how does she feel about what is happening in Syria, particularly that she hasnít left the country?

    President Assad: Like all Syrians, she feels pain. Both of us feel pain for the destruction and the blood we see in Syria, to see Syria going backwards decades and not years. Itís painful to see the country which used to be one of the top five countries in the world in terms of security become a safe haven for terrorists. It is also painful for both my wife and I to see our belief that the West will help us in our bid for development and openness go in the opposite direction, and what is even worse, to see the West having allies among these medieval states in the Gulf, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

    Question 21: People describe you as being very close to your children. How do you explain to them what is happening to your country when you return home in the evening?

    6President Assad: Of course, this discussion goes on in every Syrian house now; and the most difficult thing in this discussion is when you deal with children whose social consciousness has developed during this crisis. There are two basic questions asked, not only in our family but in many families. The first question: how can people who believe or say they are defending God and Islam kill and murder? This is a case which is not easy to explain, and children ask whether these people know that they are wrong. And the answer here is that there are those who know but make use of religion for private purposes, and there are ignorant people who do not know that religion is good. They think, instead, that religion means killing.

    The second question: why does the West launch an aggression against us, and why does it support terrorists and destruction? Of course, they do not say the West in general, they specify certain countries, including the United States, France, and Britain. Why do they do that? Have we done anything to hurt them? We also explain to them that people are something, and states are something else.

    Journalist: Thank you.
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    Lebanese soldier executed by Nusra front

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    US have the strongest air force of the world. It eliminated Saddam's and Kaddafi's air force easily at the early stage of war. IS had only three captured jet fighters. Why it's Syria's air force not US and its allies' that destroyed IS' airplanes?

    Syria Claims It Destroyed Jets Seized By ISIS
    Reuters : 10/22/2014


    (Reuters) - Syria's air force has destroyed two fighter jets operated by Islamic State militants in the north of the country, Information Minister Omran Zoabi said in remarks published on Syria's state news agency SANA late on Tuesday.

    A Syrian monitoring group said on Friday that Iraqi pilots trained under former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had joined Islamic State and were conducting training flights in three captured fighter jets at a air base in Aleppo province.

    huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/syria-isis-jets_n_6027332.html
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    You should rename this thread to "The Official Middle Eastern War Thread" and tell mods to sticky it.

    2015s Libya, Lebanon and Sinai could turn nasty unexpectedly especially the mess could spread to Egypt or even in the Gulf when they already share borders. They already established presence in those three countries and called it Wilayat Sinai, Wilayat Libya and etc (late 2014). Wilayat mean emirate in arabic.
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    I'm probably going to stay out of this conversation for now because I care about the Ukraine situation more than anything else right now and its taking a lot of my time to keep up with. Studying Ukraine really has become a passionate hobby to me.

    ISIS is being dealt with somewhat better now and it looks hopeful that will continue long-term. The fight against extremism will take decades if not longer and needs to be realized as that by all. It should be slowly taken over by a coalition of more exclusively local nations over time.

    As far as the whole of Syria - they deserve far better than either Assad or ISIS/al-Nusra/extremists. Whether or not that can be worked out realistically is a question mark. Anyone who claims that Assad is an acceptable leader of Syria is not accurately assessing the situation. Anyone who claims that he is a good leader of the nation is beyond hope.

    I'm hoping that Assad will be removed by his own people and replaced with better governance. I doubt any foreign gov will do it now though. It appears as though they've all made the decision that 'if Assad survives all of this then so be it, but we hope the Syrian people remove him and replace him with something better.' Yes it possibly could be even worse than Assad, but at the same time there is definate potential for much better as well. The problem will be getting a beneficial secular government and not another horrible one.

    Civilian populations are being intentionally bombed and shelled daily for years with hundreds of thousands of noncombatant civilians killed in order to maintain the power of one man's dictatorship. There are several new barrel bombing videos that come out each day and they are almost all high altitude attacks on civilian populations where no active fighting is taking place. Total war is being waged against whole populations of civilians in order to maintain the dictatorship. These same civilian populations are being arrested, tortured, maimed, imprisoned and killed as well. This is not being done against militants, but simply against civilian populations that are seen by Assad as politically opposed to him. That is unacceptable and highly irrational. It's the worst wartime atrocities anywhere on the planet in a long time and I question the intelligence and morality of anyone who supports it.




    UN Panel Emphasizes Assad Role in Syria War Crimes
    GENEVA — Sep 16, 2014, 10:50 AM ET
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...rimes-25530621

    100,000 civilians killed by Assad forces since 2011:
    SNHR says 88% of the 133,586 people killed by pro-Assad forces in Syria were civilians, 23% of victims were women and children
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/10...port-590203858


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    Photos to be displayed at U.S. Holocaust Museum are 'smoking gun' evidence of war crimes, State Department official tells Yahoo News
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    The State Department has obtained 27,000 photographs showing the emaciated, bruised and burned bodies of Syrian torture victims — gruesome images that a top official told Yahoo News constitute "smoking gun" evidence that can be used to bring war-crimes charges against the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad.
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    At Dier Ez Zor SAA continues to battle ISIS.
    Also of note, reports of US airstrikes on ISIS positions on outskirts of Dier Ez Zor which would probably be the closest thing to direct air support for SAA from the US airforce up to date.

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/...rol-mountains/

    The Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) stormed the mountains overlooking Deir Ezzor City, breaching parts of the Syrian Arab Army’s 104th Brigade’s defenses before retreating east after sustaining heavy losses among their fighters. ISIS social media accounts stated that they captured the mountains and killed dozens of SAA in the process; however, after contacting a military source in Deir Ezzor, Al-Masdar News can confirm that ISIS has not captured the mountains. The source added that ISIS has repeatedly tried to infiltrate, but have had little success.

    Brigadier General Issam Zahreddine of the 104th Brigade of the Syrian Arab Army’s Republican Guard was pictured addressing his men on Sakr Island (Haweeja Sakr) following a successful raid on an ISIS hideout. General Zahreddine is in the trenches with his men, boosting their morale by fighting side-by-side with them as they attempt to break the ISIS siege.

    ISIS has suffered heavy casualties in the last 2 days of their siege – they have lost over 100 fighters on the ground and continue to lose more as the battle intensifies. Al-Masdar News has recorded the identified ISIS fighters killed over the last 2 days and will continue to provide updates from the battle.

    The U.S. Air Force has reportedly bombarded ISIS positions at the Al-Jafra Oil Fields in east Deir Ezzor, along with multiple sites in the districts of Al-Mayadeen and Abu Kamal. Military sources from the Syrian Army have confirmed a number of U.S. air raids on the outskirts of Deir Ezzor City, resulting in the destruction of an ISIS weapons depot.

    The identified ISIS fighters reportedly killed at the Deir Ezzor Military Airport: (...)
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    Iraqi government investigation finds 50,000 ‘ghost soldiers’ on army payroll

    Iraq’s new government has found 50,000 “ghost soldiers” who received army pay without showing up for work..
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...n-army-payroll

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    Iraqi government investigation finds 50,000 ‘ghost soldiers’ on army payroll



    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...n-army-payroll

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    well yeah, why do you think that army folded in like a house of cards in front of 1000 ISIS guys? It's because alot of them didn't exist in the first place.
    Corruption is really bad there.
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    well yeah, why do you think that army folded in like a house of cards in front of 1000 ISIS guys? It's because alot of them didn't exist in the first place.
    Corruption is really bad there.
    Are you happy your tax dollars are being wasted on propping up a corrupt government ?
    "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China,
    when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."

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    Are you happy your tax dollars are being wasted on propping up a corrupt government ?
    I'd rather it not be corrupt.
    Keep in mind if we didn't finance it the country would probably fall to the foreign financed ISIL.
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    Originally Posted by CXC3000 View Post
    Are you happy your tax dollars are being wasted on propping up a corrupt government ?
    I'm certainly not. These lovely Muslims have been slaughtering each other for centuries. It's time we stop trying to prevent it. The US should pull out of the middle east and let the Sunni, Shia, Bath, ISIS, etc get on with their 14th century blood lust. If the Arab world wishes to step in and stop it, great. Otherwise, let Allah's will be done.
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    Training the mighty Iraqi (or is it Afghan) army :




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    when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."

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    A-10 engages ISIL in Iraq

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    Israeli airforce bombs SAA arms depot according to syrian sources.

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    The airstrikes targeted an arms depot, a source in Syrian army's Joint Staff told Sputnik news agency on Sunday. "The Israeli Air Force have conducted airstrikes on an arms depot, which caused huge blasts near the [Damascus] International Airport," the source said in a phone conversation.

    Residents in the Syrian capital said they heard loud explosions.

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    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said that 10 explosions were heard near Dimas, Reuters reported.

    The town of Dimas is located northwest of Damascus near the border with Lebanon.

    A spokesman for Israel Defense Forces told Reuters he would "not relate to the foreign reports."

    The Israeli Air Force has carried out several airstrikes in Syria since the beginning of the civil war there. The Israelis targeted what they claimed were sophisticated weapons systems destined for Damascusí ally, the Hezbollah militant group in Lebanon.

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    More war crimes in the making ?
    Immunity from local prosecution doesn't make someone immune from US prosecution for "war crimes", or any other crimes.

    But it's good to see you're approaching this thread with an open, unbiased mind
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    Problems within ISIS

    http://www.raqqa-sl.com/?p=3119

    A number of #IS checkpoints, whose members have been masked, were positioned inside and outside the city of A-Raqqa, last night. They presumably belong to the #IS military battalion. They conducted raid campaigns and arrested several IS members who refused to join the fight in Ain Al-Arab, claiming there weren’t any spoils to take there, they also feared getting killed by Coalition airstrikes, while a state of rage among the members has been reported
    ain Al-Arab also known as Kobani



    FSA/Nusra storming SAA positions.
    Strong tactics

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    Israeli jet or drone allegedly shot down
    video of wreckage below.

    http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=...type=2&theater

    title of the video does not mention what it is exactly they are filming so let's not jump to conclusions.
    edit: at 2:58 you can see hebrew letters in the wreckage
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    new video by ISIS from Kobani






    ISIS on the defensive in Iraq
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    KUWAIT CITY, Kuwait – The war commander for the international effort against the Islamic State said the group is on the “defensive” and that coalition nations will soon be pledging to send hundreds more troops to join U.S. forces in Iraq.

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    Lt. Gen. James Terry, the commander of what’s now called Joint Task Force Operation Inherent Resolve, said the Islamic State is less on the offensive and more focused on holding ground, making it easier to target them.

    “I would just characterize it as ISIL operationally probably on the defense trying to hold what they had gained yet still able to conduct some limited attacks,” Terry told reporters traveling with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel in the region on Monday.

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    18 minutes of combat footage from intense clashes in Darayya, Damascus, Syria.
    Mostly FSA vs SAA

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    More fighting in Damascus, this time filmed by SAA. December 12, 2014


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    Originally Posted by Spartan5364 View Post
    Israeli jet or drone allegedly shot down
    video of wreckage below.

    http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=...type=2&theater

    title of the video does not mention what it is exactly they are filming so let's not jump to conclusions.
    edit: at 2:58 you can see hebrew letters in the wreckage
    Probably a hermes 450 or 900, most likely a 9

    chitty ass drones. They cruise somewhere around the same speed you would drive on the highway and ave a top speed of 200 something.

    Hardly impressive.
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    Training the mighty Iraqi (or is it Afghan) army :




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    Hell, they're all the same, lulz.
    To be clear, you seem to be making fun of the Iraqi army, so i take it you support ISIS..
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    Originally Posted by Merretto View Post
    To be clear, you seem to be making fun of the Iraqi army, so i take it you support ISIS..
    Hundreds of billion dollars of toys received by the Western nations, trained by them and yet, reportedly 30,000 "troops" took their uniforms and ran off by 800 "militants" who seized the second largest city under 24 hours.

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    Originally Posted by Spartan5364 View Post
    Israeli jet or drone allegedly shot down
    video of wreckage below.

    http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=...type=2&theater

    title of the video does not mention what it is exactly they are filming so let's not jump to conclusions.
    edit: at 2:58 you can see hebrew letters in the wreckage
    the "tube" is too small, definately not a drone or a jet, looks more like popeye missile
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    Originally Posted by Merretto View Post
    To be clear, you seem to be making fun of the Iraqi army, so i take it you support ISIS..
    Nice Neo-Zionist logic...
    "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China,
    when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."

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