symptoms I have
- ringing in ears
- inability to sleep at night
- panic attacks when I lay down at night to sleep
- wake up every few hours
- constant feeling of impending doom for NO REASON
-start falling asleep...will start to have dreams and wake up... if I listened to music that day it will start playing or ill hear conversations I have had with people that day -- like my brain is trying to fall into a dream state but my adrenaline wont let it
- If I hear a noise when im laying down my body will overly react to it...like I am always on edge etc.
I think this is adrenal fatigue/ overtraining...because it started out of nowhere a few weeks after I started a new training routine and law school. I took 2 weeks off, symptoms got better and then started the routine up again and it came back. I am going to take 2 months off of lifting and see if that helps? Just doing light cardio...bike/ walking on treadmill.
anyone ever experienced these symptoms?
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12-04-2014, 09:40 AM #1
Possible adrenal fatigue, severe overtraining, Generalized anxiety disorder?
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12-04-2014, 09:42 AM #2
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12-04-2014, 09:46 AM #4
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12-04-2014, 09:50 AM #7
I started a bodyweight routine focusing on muscle-ups, pullups, dips. I think I overtrained because I was going to failure and hitting these muscle groups 3x per week. I figured it was bodyweight so **** it. My goal was to get to 20 pullups but at around 18 ...my body stopped gaining so I just kept pushing.
I am going to do nothing but like cardio/ sauna until the new year. It sucks because I know I will lose muscle but my health comes first. The WORST is that when I start hearing conversations/ music I think im going like schizo or something and that gives me more panic attacks which is just a terrible positive feedback loopVeteran, US Army, OEF 7
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12-04-2014, 09:52 AM #8
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12-04-2014, 09:52 AM #9
prolly anxiety could be over training tho. I have those symptoms too with the ear ringing... don't ear good out of the ear that rings at night tho. some nights the ringing won't be as noticeable. Try lifting 3 days a week instead, that has helped me a little bit. Also I don't eat as much as I used to which could mean that I've been over training for the past year and a half. Lost 15lbs after I stopped force feeding. Also get out a talk to ppl. Replaying conversations in my head happens to me when I haven't been out in awhile.
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12-04-2014, 09:53 AM #10
Talk to a therapist/psychologist. go to doctor and get your levels checked.
good luck bro, anxiety sucks remember it always goes away. I am in the same boat since early this year, same symptoms, best thing is just see someone.
Edit, your last post sounds like panic disorder. But don't just spend time looking up things or you'll put yourself through negative cycles, get proper help.
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12-04-2014, 09:55 AM #11
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12-04-2014, 09:56 AM #12
I very highly doubt you are that severely overtrained by doing bodyweight exercises. Being strong IS being healthy so I would not stop training and sacrifice your strength in the process.
Doing a lot of cardio can be just as stressful if not more stressful than weight training and will not make you stronger in the process. Take a week off if you have to but if I were you I would focus on managing stress outside of the gym by whatever means necessary and then go on to make sure you are recovering from the stress of training by eating and sleeping properly.
I had a similar issue when I was working a stressful office job 2 years ago to the point where I actually had to leave the job. I kept feeling like I was having a heart attack, I would wake up in the middle of the night feeling like I was going to die, etc…In reality I was just under severe stress due to the workload at my job then trying to go lift heavy weights at night when I got home. Since then I've been seeing a therapist which has helped tremendously in keeping my stress/anxiety down and have also really focused on eating properly and sleeping.
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12-04-2014, 09:56 AM #13
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12-04-2014, 09:59 AM #14
homie, this is the vicious cycle. Stressed so cant sleep ----> I cant sleep so im stressed---> need sleep to recover but cant sleep---> anxiety because I cant sleep---> **** im half asleep/ half awake...what was that noise!?!....**** im losing it....am I going insane!?!--->panic attack ensues---> **** its 3 am Im gonna be useless tomorrow.
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12-04-2014, 09:59 AM #15
Had severe anxiety and panic attacks earlier this year. Went to the hospital 3 times, once in an ambulance. They kept telling me anxiety/panic attack. The 4th time I felt symptoms hitting me hard and was contemplating the hospital I was like **** thus. Either I really am sick or it is anxiety but I'm not going back again. I went home had the sickest workout I've ever had with intense as **** cardio after. Didn't drop dead. Haven't had a single problem since. Beat that **** with my mind.
If it is anxiety you just really gotta trust that it is and ignore it. Find your happy place..I really don't believe in over training if your sleep and diet are in check.My loony bun is fine
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12-04-2014, 09:59 AM #16
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12-04-2014, 10:04 AM #19
what I have done to help myself
Thought I may have sleep apnea bought breath rite strips, gave up porn, stopped fapping (still have sex), quit caffeine, try to do yoga, take walks. Started taking pycogenol but made **** worse.
Was taking melatonin but tried to stop it because I want to be off all meds. Maybe I should start using that again?Veteran, US Army, OEF 7
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12-04-2014, 10:10 AM #20
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12-04-2014, 10:14 AM #23
yup, the doc goes: Have you experienced this before?
me: No
him: ok make another appointment and we will put a 24 hr ekg on you and see if you are having heart palpitations
me: ok
next appointment in 5+ weeks fml
its not bad enough where I need to go to the hospital. I know its anxiety, I just don't know how to fix it. The timing of it ...mid October makes me suspect it has to do with my lifting routineVeteran, US Army, OEF 7
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12-04-2014, 10:15 AM #24
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12-04-2014, 10:21 AM #26
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Brah, all the symptoms you're listed are often caused by down regulated gaba receptors and up regulated glutamate receptors. A lot of people experience all of this withdrawing from benzodiazepines..... I know I did. As a result do not take benzos like ***** to try to "fix" this as they will probably help in the short term but you will be 10 times worse when you stop taking them. Srs read up on benzo withdrawal. It is hell. I would know. The only thing I can recommend trying is a supplement called seriphos which reduces cortisol. I've heard that some people with adrenal fatigue have had some success with it. Good luck brah.
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12-04-2014, 10:24 AM #27
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12-04-2014, 10:26 AM #28
as far as i know the medical field doesn't know much about adrenal fatigue in general. There are websites like curezone where lots of people address their symptoms and what has helped them (meditation, vitamin c, b vitamins, etc.) but they all admit that it can take a long time to get better if someone truly has adrenal fatigue. good luck brah, make sure you keep as much stress out of your life as you can.
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12-04-2014, 10:29 AM #29
Strong sense of impending doom all the time.
Trouble sleeping.
Tired and unmotivated all the time were my main symptoms.
The stepping up cardio was hard work to start off with due to the tiredness but it really helped. Felt more alert and energetic after a week.
I'm pretty sure that weight training increases cortisol which can cause stress whereas cardio releases endorphins which helps your mood. Could be wrong, maybe some medics/physios/PTs could verify.
EDIT: Also, how was your caffeine intake before you quit. When I was looking into it I read that too high caffeine can cause adrenal fatigue. Can also effect dopamine receptors.
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12-04-2014, 10:29 AM #30
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