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    Small Adventures: A Hiking and Climbing Thread

    I always thought of myself as a lakes and mountains kind of girl, but I never actually spent much time outdoors. That changed this year when I discovered a love for hiking and peak-bagging. I LOVE being in the mountains, walking through the forests, and smelling the scent of the dirt and trees in the clean air. Although, I would say I'm far from hardcore. I won't be doing the PCT or even climbing Rainier any time soon. I do like steep, difficult trails that lead to summits and stunning views. I enjoy small adventures that most people can do in a weekend or a few vacation days. I've had a blast road tripping all over Northern California and the Pacific Northwest this summer to find new and challenging places to hike. I have so many more things I want to do and so many more places to see. This thread will be a log of sorts and a place to unload my 'earth p0rn' pics.



    Fellow day hikers, climbers, backpackers, and other adventurers... Feel free to post photos of your trips in here too, discuss gear, comment, share tips/stories, or just to chat.
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    Trips completed in 2014 so far (Name [elevation] - total distance - elev. gain)


    Rubicon Trail - 8 mi - 2275’
    May - South Lake Tahoe, CA

    http://flic.kr/p/p2Gces


    Vernal and Nevada Falls (The Mist Trail) - 8.6 mi - 2000’
    May - Yosemite National Park, CA

    http://flic.kr/p/pG7v3a


    Lower and Upper Echo Lakes - 7.2 mi - 1225’
    June - South Lake Tahoe, CA

    http://flic.kr/p/pG3YB8


    Palomarin Trailhead to Alamere Falls - 7.8 mi - 350’
    June - Point Reyes Station, CA

    http://flic.kr/p/pG3ZpR


    Mount Tallac [9735’] - Approx. 7 mi - 1500' - (Fail)
    July - South Lake Tahoe, CA

    Mount Tallac [9735’] - 10 mi - 3500’
    July - South Lake Tahoe, CA


    http://flic.kr/p/p2Gdy1


    Stinson Beach to Mount Tamalpais East Peak [2574’] - 16 mi - 2546’
    August - Stinson Beach, CA

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    Mount Pilchuck [5327’] - 6 mi - 2300’
    August - Granite Falls, WA

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    Cascade Pass and Sahale Arm - 6.5 mi - (Fail - Weather)
    September - Marblemount, WA

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    Colchuck Lake and Aasgard Pass [7800’] - Approx. 14 mi - 4400’
    September - Leavenworth, WA

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    Skyline to Panorama Point - 5 mi - 1300’
    September - Mount Rainier National Park, WA

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    Bumpass Hell Trail - 6 mi - 800’
    September - Lassen Volcanic National Park, CA

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    Lower, Middle, and Upper Loch Leven Lakes Trail - 6 mi - 1100’
    October - Norden, CA

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    Rocky Canyon to Pyramid Peak [9985’] - 7 mi - 4100’
    October - Twin Bridges, CA

    http://flic.kr/p/pYiQvz


    Brokeoff Mountain [9235’] - 7.4 mi - 2600’
    October - Lassen Volcanic National Park, CA

    http://flic.kr/p/pMzhwx



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    Total miles so far: 122.5
    Total elevation gain: 29,996’
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    No rain or snow in the forecast this weekend, so the plan is to hike up Castle Peak in Tahoe National Forest.

    Distance: 6-8 mi
    Elevation: 9109'
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    I was in the market for a puffy jacket to use this winter. Since I was going to be in the city, I wanted to visit the stores of the two brands I narrowed my choices down to. I didn't have a particular style in mind. I was hoping the stores would have a good selection for me to try.

    Marmot v. The North Face






    Unfortunately, the selection was pretty disappointing. Marmot only had three styles for women, but they were nice and fit well. TNF had a slightly better selection, including the Summit Series, which I didn't like at all. Many of the jackets were better suited for an urban jungle rather than the backcountry.

    In the end, I chose the TNF's Thermoball. It fit well and looked nice, but mostly decided on it based on Gear Junkie's dunk test where they submerged the jacket into a cold stream and wore it wet.

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    After two consecutive days of literally pigging out at family birthday parties, a hike to Castle Peak was exactly what I needed today. Total: 7 miles - 1900 elevation gain; all in all not that difficult. It was a good day out. The weather was pleasant and not too windy at the top. Lots of scree on the way to the summit though.

    Castle Peak with its three towers. The easternmost tower is the true summit (9100') and is a class 3 scramble



    Some very icy patches. Not too bad though; not enough to put on microspikes.




    Great views of Tahoe, Sierra Buttes, and even snowy Mount Lassen over 100 miles to the North









    Tower 2


    Tower 3 reminds me of the sphinx



    Class 3 scramble. I only went halfway. I was hiking solo, and there was no one else around. The last few feet were pretty vertical.




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    My new toys arrived today! Backcountrydotcom had a sale on Black Diamond gear, and the BD Contact Strap-On crampons were 20% off. I won't be needing these any time soon, but since Backcountry will take anything back that's unused for a full refund, I decided to get them. They're 10 points, stainless steel and will work with any type of boots. They're not meant for technical mountaineering, but should be good enough to get me to Camp Muir next summer.





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    Wander here a whole summer if you can...The time will not be taken from the sum of your life. Instead of shortening it, it will indefinitely lengthen it and make you truly immortal. - John Muir


















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    Wow, I'm impressed and jealous at the same time. Those are some great looking places in the pics.
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    Wow, I'm impressed and jealous at the same time. Those are some great looking places in the pics.
    Thank you, HS!
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    I was supposed to do a 3 day hike at Mt. Whitney last year, got drawn for the permits and everything but all the guys who were supposed to go with me crapped out so I had to cancel. Long trip from here but there's not a whole lot for hiking around this area. Most of my hiking is done while hunting in West Texas canyons.

    edit: That Rubicon trail pic and Colchuck Lake and Aasgard Pass pic are my kind of places, those pics damn near gave me a heart attack. I would love to hike out there and setup camp for a couple days.
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    Wow, I'm impressed and jealous at the same time. Those are some great looking places in the pics.
    You have no clue, I have been jealous of the places Barb visits for a long time now. I actually think she's a secret billionaire due to how great and often her trips are.

    Me: Hey, I'm going to the beach this weekend to enjoy the sun.
    Barb: That's cool. I'm going to the sun.

    Damn you!!!!
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    I was supposed to do a 3 day hike at Mt. Whitney last year, got drawn for the permits and everything but all the guys who were supposed to go with me crapped out so I had to cancel. Long trip from here but there's not a whole lot for hiking around this area. Most of my hiking is done while hunting in West Texas canyons.

    edit: That Rubicon trail pic and Colchuck Lake and Aasgard Pass pic are my kind of places, those pics damn near gave me a heart attack. I would love to hike out there and setup camp for a couple days.
    Ya, I recall you mentioning your canceled Whitney trip. That sucks! I joined up with a meetup group that plans to do Whitney again next year. If they're lucky to get another permit, I'm going. That's one I don't want to attempt solo. I need to start hiking in the dark. They start the summit attempt at midnight. O.o Whitney would be my first 14er.

    You would have a great time in NorCal. You could easily spend a week backpacking around the Tahoe and Desolation Wilderness areas. Plenty of things to hike or climb there.

    Colchuck Lake and Aasgard Pass are the shortcuts to The Enchantments. The entire thru-hike is about 20 miles. It can be done in one really long day hike, but most people choose to camp either at Colchuck or in the Upper Enchantments basin. This pic was taken from the top of Aasgard Pass, looking down to the lake.




    Upper Enchantments - I didn't go very far, since I was running out of time.






    Here's a good vid too: http://youtu.be/lUGM0xWlA7Y





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    You have no clue, I have been jealous of the places Barb visits for a long time now. I actually think she's a secret billionaire due to how great and often her trips are.

    Me: Hey, I'm going to the beach this weekend to enjoy the sun.
    Barb: That's cool. I'm going to the sun.

    Damn you!!!!

    Hahaha! Yeah, right. I wish. That's the nice thing about hiking. It's basically free. Biggest expenses are gas and gear.

    Good to see you, MrM!
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    In for purty pics. "Small adventures" lol. I like it.

    No mountains around here. Only place I can go hiking is up the stairs of the Empire State Bldg
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    In for purty pics. "Small adventures" lol. I like it.

    No mountains around here. Only place I can go hiking is up the stairs of the Empire State Bldg
    Hi Ron! It doesn't have to be hiking. You can post your races in here.
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    Didn't even know an Outdoor Recreation forum existed here...


    I do backcountry canoe tripping in the summers, but only started taking pictures/writing logs during this summer (I did 3 trips). So I'll throw up some pics and trip logs later tonight hopefully, for anyone interested in reading about it. Quite a different experience it seems than what Barb does, but still enjoying mother nature to it's fullest (also a lot less pretty since I haven't ventured far from Southern Ontario).


    For those interested in those nature-esque type movies, Into The Wild is a great film; not so much about hiking/climbing than it is about escaping society and living amongst nature. A lesser known one is Tracks which I would definitely recommend as well. And I'm super excited to see Wild which comes out in a few weeks... I've only heard amazing things from people who saw it at film festivals.




    edit: btw Barb, are those all your pics? Pretty awesome if they are...
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    Didn't even know an Outdoor Recreation forum existed here...


    I do backcountry canoe tripping in the summers, but only started taking pictures/writing logs during this summer (I did 3 trips). So I'll throw up some pics and trip logs later tonight hopefully, for anyone interested in reading about it. Quite a different experience it seems than what Barb does, but still enjoying mother nature to it's fullest (also a lot less pretty since I haven't ventured far from Southern Ontario).


    For those interested in those nature-esque type movies, Into The Wild is a great film; not so much about hiking/climbing than it is about escaping society and living amongst nature. A lesser known one is Tracks which I would definitely recommend as well. And I'm super excited to see Wild which comes out in a few weeks... I've only heard amazing things from people who saw it at film festivals.




    edit: btw Barb, are those all your pics? Pretty awesome if they are...
    Yay, cls! Great to see you here. I'm still reading through your trip reports. That's cool stuff and ya, very different from what I do. I'm looking forward to seeing Wild too. I don't know Tracks, but I'll look for it.


    And yes, most of those are my pics. I like to take lots of photos when I'm out. Thanks! There are more pictures in my Flickr page if you're interested.
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    Yay, cls! Great to see you here. I'm still reading through your trip reports. That's cool stuff and ya, very different from what I do. I'm looking forward to seeing Wild too. I don't know Tracks, but I'll look for it.


    And yes, most of those are my pics. I like to take lots of photos when I'm out. Thanks! There are more pictures in my Flickr page if you're interested.


    Definitely recommend watching Tracks; it's based on a true story and is very entertaining if you like those types of movies (not in an exciting, action packed way though).

    I just skimmed through your flickr page quickly... tons of pics, wow. You've been to some really beautiful places. My trips are always within a select few provincial parks and (with some exceptions) aren't as scenic since there isn't as much elevation, etc.

    But the trails that I portage look very similar to some of the trails that you hike; narrow, muddy, rocky, hilly, etc... except I have to carry a 18ft long canoe on my head, or heavy packs on my back (and sometimes stomach) ... when I did my solo trip, the first walk-through was with all my packs/gear, then I had to walk back to pick up the canoe... so each portage had to be done 3 times basically.
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    Definitely recommend watching Tracks; it's based on a true story and is very entertaining if you like those types of movies (not in an exciting, action packed way though).

    I just skimmed through your flickr page quickly... tons of pics, wow. You've been to some really beautiful places. My trips are always within a select few provincial parks and (with some exceptions) aren't as scenic since there isn't as much elevation, etc.

    But the trails that I portage look very similar to some of the trails that you hike; narrow, muddy, rocky, hilly, etc... except I have to carry a 18ft long canoe on my head, or heavy packs on my back (and sometimes stomach) ... when I did my solo trip, the first walk-through was with all my packs/gear, then I had to walk back to pick up the canoe... so each portage had to be done 3 times basically.
    I just looked up Tracks. It's not playing anywhere close to me. I'll have to wait until it comes out on video.

    I take a crazy amount of pictures. The ones on Flickr aren't even all of them. I checked out your pics. Those are some nice places too. It's hard to believe one person can carry that big canoe. I suppose that's when lifting comes in handy.

    What do you do during the winter time?
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    Backcountry Canoe Tripping

    Backcountry
    What is it exactly? The term 'backcountry' refers to being somewhere not easily accessible. From wikipedia "A backcountry area in general terms is a geographical region that is remote, undeveloped, isolated or difficult to access.". A backcountry canoe trip is basically this: canoe across a lake; portage over land to the next lake; canoe that lake; portage over land to the next lake; etc. until you eventually set up camp for the night.

    Portaging
    Portaging means to carry your gear/packs/canoes across the land. The distances range anywhere from 100m - 5km, sometimes longer, with anything >1-2km being considered a 'long' portage. More important than the length is the terrain; a rocky, hilly, muddy, or unmaintained 1km portage can be much more difficult than a flat 3km. Carrying the canoe is easily the hardest job, then the food barrel, then the packs; not only because of weight, but because of size, comfort, and instability while walking.

    Gear
    The usual setup that I'm used to is 1-2 packs for dry bags, 1 utility pack, 1-2 personal napsacks, 1 food barrel, 1-2 canoes.
    Packs - 100-120L, enough to fit 3 dry bags (each person has a dry bag for their clothes/sleeping bag)
    Utility pack - for tent, tarps, rope, pots/pans, etc.
    Food barrel - the one I have is 60L which is basically enough space to feed 6 people for 5-6 days if packed efficiently. No fridge or freezer obviously, so food choices are quite limited. Also when considering how many kcals you burn each day, you can't really be wasting space for vegetables, etc. Nuts/seeds, pasta, rice, dried fruit, etc.; all calorically dense and pack light.

    Everything is about packing efficiently; if you don't absolutely need it, you don't bring it. And everything that you do bring, bring with the assumption that it may not be coming back with you in one piece.

    A Typical Day
    There is no electricity, cell phone service, etc., you're literally in the middle of forest, and most people prefer not to bring a watch. Wake up with the sun, make some breakfast (hopefully there's leftover wood from the night before... nobody wants to collect wood first thing in the morning). Pack up camp; pack your dry bag, take down the tent, pack the packs and food barrel, and set out. Canoe, portage, canoe, portage, canoe, portage, etc. Get to your campsite and set up camp; put up the tent, tarps, collect wood, rig a setup to hang your food between trees to avoid bears/other animals getting in, cook dinner, then relax by the fire. Everything takes longer to do... prepping, cooking, eating, and cleaning dinner is at least 2hrs usually. Sleep on some nice hard forest ground, wake up and do it all again.

    The longer the trip that you do, the further backcountry you can go, which lets you access more remote spots. It also depends how ambitious you want to be with the planning of course. My trips are usually 4-5 days on average; I like switching campsites every night but 1; having 1 full day is nice to relax and not have to worry about taking down/setting up camp, etc. Most people don't bring deodorant or shampoo/bodywash because of the scent (animals) and harm to the environment, so no matter how long you're gone you come back looking and smelling like a dead dog.. but it's worth it. You always come back sore, bruised, smelling like smoke and having dirt under your fingernails for days, but with stories and the sense of self-accomplishment that make it all well worth it. Oh, and yes you poop in the forest




    Just realized it's late and I'm too lazy to write about and post pictures from one of my trips, so I'll update the thread tomorrow.

    Here's one anyways (one of my favorites)...

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    I just looked up Tracks. It's not playing anywhere close to me. I'll have to wait until it comes out on video.

    I take a crazy amount of pictures. The ones on Flickr aren't even all of them. I checked out your pics. Those are some nice places too. It's hard to believe one person can carry that big canoe. I suppose that's when lifting comes in handy.

    What do you do during the winter time?

    It's not in theaters anymore. It's on Apple TV, or I'm sure you can download it/watch it on another pay site (if you prefer not to download).

    The canoe really isn't too bad in terms of weight. Depending on the one you get, they're usually ~50lbs on average. Flipping it up onto your shoulders is a lot more about technique than muscle strength, and same with carrying it on the portage. Its tough as hell on your shoulders and back though since you have this odd shaped 90 degree angled wooden yolk pressing down on you the whole time. And you have limited visibility since it hangs so far in front of you, and the length of the canoe makes it hard to maneuver in narrow trails. The worst are portages that start uphill... even if it's 100m uphill then 1km downhill, I'll be spending that whole 1km catching my breath

    But lifting helps in the sense of pushing yourself, will-power, the motivation to succeed etc. It's more psychological strength than muscular strength to be honest. But yea, carrying that for km's at a time is definitely tiresome. If it's <2km I can usually push through, but anything longer and I'll usually take a quick 5min break at some point.


    And in the winter I hibernate lol... I lift I eat and I sleep. Not big into any winter sports. I don't know why I still live in Canada...
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    Sandy Lake - Killarney Provincial Park

    I'll try and make it an interesting story-like read, just for some excitement lol


    This was my first time going to Killarney since I was a lot younger, and it's a really pretty, smaller park (relatively speaking), with the nicer lakes getting booked up 5 months in advance (as soon as you are able). The way it works is you book a campsite for a specific night on a specific lake, and it's first come first serve; some lakes will have 10 campsites, others will have 1 (they won't overbook, so if you hold a permit, you get a campsite). Anyways, Sandy Lake was the most remote spot I've probably ever been to; we had the lake to ourselves (only 1 campsite), and the next closest people were a long portage and paddle away. Not a sole in sight for at least a couple km... which is good, but bad in case of emergency (no cell reception).

    The first day of the trip looked like this.

    Wake up at 4:00 AM
    Drive for 5hrs to Killarney
    Get permits/load up/launch out
    3.5km paddle --> 45m portage --> 2km paddle --> 410m portage --> 7km paddle --> 1,375m portage --> 1km paddle --> 25m portage --> .5km paddle --> 1,105m portage --> Sandy Lake

    This is what the second half of the day looked like:



    (the little red triangles are campsites... as you can see, we were far away from anyone else)

    It was a pretty demanding day, especially since I carried the canoe the whole time. (FYI, deciding to test your 1RM for both squat and dead during the 2 days prior to a trip... not the smartest idea lmao). The 1,375m portage had some ankle deep mud which made it extremely difficult, especially while trying to keep my balance with the canoe over my head. And then the excitement started at the 1,105m portage... last portage of the day, hadn't seen anyone since before the 1,375m portage, and after this we get to our private lake.

    Halfway through the portage we start following some very fresh, and very large bear tracks on the portage trail... I'm talking 8" wide/long foot prints imprinted perfectly 2" deep into the mud. There was no mistaking that we were basically minutes behind a bear walking towards our isolated lake that we'd be camping on for 2 nights. Bears are extremely common in Killarney, and are more of a nuisance than dangerous, but it's still worrisome when you're out there with 2 other guys, km's away from anyone, with no cell phone reception, and bear spray (basically a powerful pepper spray) as your only means of defense. Most of the time the bears are scared of you, but if something goes wrong... your fuked. They swim, climb, and run faster than you.

    So we get to the campsite around 6:00 PM and find fresh claw marks on trees, some (not as fresh) paw prints on the ground, and one long white rope hanging off of a tree branch. (The simple/standard way to hang your food is to find a tree a good distance away from the campsite, throw a rope over a sturdy branch, tie it to your food bag/barrel, and hoist it up... making sure it's far off the ground and far away from the trunk of the tree so it's out of reach to any animals). Looking at it in a bit of a comical way, seeing this white rope swaying with the wind was basically like those movies where someone walks into a hotel room and sees a noose hanging there. Someone had attempted to hang their food there, but obviously something had gotten to it.

    We were clearly sharing our campsite with a bear, but at this point it was way too late in the day to turn around and go to another campsite, since it's probably 2-3hrs away and the sun wouldn't be up for long enough for us to make it there. Again, knowing that bears aren't usually dangerous, we just said screw it and stayed, and were extra precautious that night (we took our dishes to the middle of the lake to clean, we kept all dinner clothes outside of the tent overnight, etc.) We also decided to hang our pots and pans on top of the barrel instead of inside, so that if anything were trying to get to it in the middle of the night, it would i) scare it away, ii) let us know from the tent.

    Anyways, we woke up with our food still hanging, and spent the day enjoying the beautiful scenery and remoteness of this private lake. That second night I heard the pots and pans clinging, but the next morning the food was still hanging, so it might have just been some strong winds. Either way, we managed to enjoy the 2 nights there without having any problems from our bear friend. The third day was the same trip back to where we launched out from, but luckily I shared the canoe carrying with the other guys so it wasn't as difficult. It was a great trip overall, despite only being 3 days... although my next two trips of the summer were definitely better (stories to come later).


    Here are some pics:

    Late Afternoon looking out of campsite


    Early Morning looking out from the other side of the campsite


    Late Sunset


    View of campsite




    Our kitchen


    Perfect hang; no bear is fuking with that





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    My trips are usually 4-5 days on average; I like switching campsites every night but 1; having 1 full day is nice to relax and not have to worry about taking down/setting up camp, etc. Most people don't bring deodorant or shampoo/bodywash because of the scent (animals) and harm to the environment, so no matter how long you're gone you come back looking and smelling like a dead dog.. but it's worth it. You always come back sore, bruised, smelling like smoke and having dirt under your fingernails for days, but with stories and the sense of self-accomplishment that make it all well worth it. Oh, and yes you poop in the forest

    Just realized it's late and I'm too lazy to write about and post pictures from one of my trips, so I'll update the thread tomorrow.
    Lol! How did you get into backcountry canoeing? I don’t hear of many people doing it. Occasionally, I might see a car with a wooden canoe on top of their car and wonder how they got that thing up there without destroying their paint job, but it’s far more common to see people with the plastic sit-on-top kayaks.


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    The canoe really isn't too bad in terms of weight. Depending on the one you get, they're usually ~50lbs on average. Flipping it up onto your shoulders is a lot more about technique than muscle strength, and same with carrying it on the portage. Its tough as hell on your shoulders and back though since you have this odd shaped 90 degree angled wooden yolk pressing down on you the whole time. And you have limited visibility since it hangs so far in front of you, and the length of the canoe makes it hard to maneuver in narrow trails. The worst are portages that start uphill... even if it's 100m uphill then 1km downhill, I'll be spending that whole 1km catching my breath

    But lifting helps in the sense of pushing yourself, will-power, the motivation to succeed etc. It's more psychological strength than muscular strength to be honest. But yea, carrying that for km's at a time is definitely tiresome. If it's <2km I can usually push through, but anything longer and I'll usually take a quick 5min break at some point.
    I would have guessed a lot heavier than 50lbs. Are they made of wood or something else?



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    Hi MLJ! Did you read the GJ review? It still kept the guy warm even when it was soaking wet. Sold! Haha. Although, there are bunch of pre-holiday sales now. The Marmot jackets are marked down now from $200 to $140 at REI. The boots I showed above are on sale now too.

    Oh and I wanted to share this FB group with you. They have some really nice info and pics. Could be useful if you want to start getting out.

    Washington Hikers and Climbers
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    Edit: I'll be following you and your man in the OBF challenge. Good luck!
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