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    Shawn Ray: How did he not a Mr. Olympia Title???

    Surely Shawn Ray would have done a lot more to promote bbing in the 1990's compared to Dorian. Ray looked great and was a great speaker and he could have promoted the sport a lot more. How did it benefit bodybuilding to have Dorian win and then just run back to the UK? How was Dorian good for bodybuilding?

    I guess a negative with Ray was he positive drug test in the early 90's...

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    Originally Posted by MoonWalker0 View Post
    Surely Shawn Ray would have done a lot more to promote bbing in the 1990's compared to Dorian. Ray looked great and was a great speaker and he could have promoted the sport a lot more. How did it benefit bodybuilding to have Dorian win and then just run back to the UK? How was Dorian good for bodybuilding?

    I guess a negative with Ray was he positive drug test in the early 90's...

    He did not win because of this






    (Just like Labrada/Gaspari could not defeat Lee)

    Dorian broke the mental.barrier of coming in 240lbs + peeled. He started what Ronnie carried over..

    He beat Shawn in terms of size n conditioning both. Ray couldn't touch him. If u care so much about the gut , go see his mandatory poses.

    Other than that Shawn has always been considered as a cocky , self-righteous man. People never really loved his off stage persona much from what I know. But a phenomenal physique nevertheless.
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    Shawn Ray was closer than Kevin Levrone and Flex Wheeler to win the Mr Olympia
    I would've had Shawn Ray winning the Mr Olympia 1994
    Dorian came in with bloated stomach and torn bicep.
    I believe Dorian deserved all his titles except 1994 Mr O.
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    Dorians tan looks sick why do they go full retard with the tan now days
    you mad because i'm right?
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    Originally Posted by hzx View Post
    Dorians tan looks sick why do they go full retard with the tan now days
    This^ and it has to do with lighting too I think. Jay cutler's 2009 colour was sick too.
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    Shawn Gay. Dances with trannies.
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    I dont think he deserved any. Hes a grade A douchebag in real life. Cheats on his wife. Talks **** on MD to everybody. If you make him look bad he spends 6 hours posting your account acting like you. I must admit he had me rolling on the floor with some of his posts as me. I doubt most pros would go that far for asking about the 91 Arnold. Hes nothing like Jay. Very unprofessional. Likes men in wigs. Visits Sadie the Md pornstar on the weekends according to the Pms she sent me. He immediately hacked my account. Erased my inbox. Posted as me for hours. Banned my account. I think I hit a nerve.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    I dont think he deserved any. Hes a grade A douchebag in real life. Cheats on his wife. Talks **** on MD to everybody. If you make him look bad he spends 6 hours posting your account acting like you. I must admit he had me rolling on the floor with some of his posts as me. I doubt most pros would go that far for asking about the 91 Arnold. Hes nothing like Jay. Very unprofessional. Likes men in wigs. Visits Sadie the Md pornstar on the weekends according to the Pms she sent me. He immediately hacked my account. Erased my inbox. Posted as me for hours. Banned my account. I think I hit a nerve.
    Are u serious about your encounters with him? Ofcourse he is cocky n only talks about how he was the best and never won etc. N keeps on bashing all the pros for their waist size. He is absolutely obsessed with gut n waist size
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    Are u serious about your encounters with him? Ofcourse he is cocky n only talks about how he was the best and never won etc. N keeps on bashing all the pros for their waist size. He is absolutely obsessed with gut n waist size
    Srs. I asked about his conflicting stories about the 91 Arnold in a thread. Sadie immediately starts sending me pms going off. Then Shawn starts sending them. A week later I get a pm from her saying when Shawn was at her house, he showed her the pms. I asked Shawn if his wife knew about this. He got on my account and posted on threads acting like me for 6 hours. Then he banned me and my ip. I changed my Ip and made a new account. I had some hillarious pms about Shawn from priest. I miss that big armed ****er. I remember when he talked **** to Rich Piana. Now remember at this time Rich is like 280 and Shawns 200 lbs of chub. He basically said I thought you learned your lesson from Greg reid. He got knocked the **** out. let me check and make sure that was the guys name. **** was funny.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    Srs. I asked about his conflicting stories about the 91 Arnold in a thread. Sadie immediately starts sending me pms going off. Then Shawn starts sending them. A week later I get a pm from her saying when Shawn was at her house, he showed her the pms. I asked Shawn if his wife knew about this. He got on my account and posted on threads acting like me for 6 hours. Then he banned me and my ip. I changed my Ip and made a new account. I had some hillarious pms about Shawn from priest. I miss that big armed ****er.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    Srs. I asked about his conflicting stories about the 91 Arnold in a thread. Sadie immediately starts sending me pms going off. Then Shawn starts sending them. A week later I get a pm from her saying when Shawn was at her house, he showed her the pms. I asked Shawn if his wife knew about this. He got on my account and posted on threads acting like me for 6 hours. Then he banned me and my ip. I changed my Ip and made a new account. I had some hillarious pms about Shawn from priest. I miss that big armed ****er. I remember when he talked **** to Rich Piana. Now remember at this time Rich is like 280 and Shawns 200 lbs of chub. He basically said I thought you learned your lesson from Greg reid. He got knocked the **** out. let me check and make sure that was the guys name. **** was funny.
    Woah! U have been in circle with so many pros. U should maKe some threads solely for those stories. Is there ANY pro that Shawn has ever liked ?
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    You can't be 33. You just can't.
    I have seen you talk **** to woman and children on here. You are 29. You talk crap to roro and stealth every third post. You are a troll. You get on here just to talk ****. You spew nonsense like its fact. Do you ever stop. Seriously. What does this have to do with my age. Take a hint. I dont like you. I am not talking to you. stfu. Thanks.

    Check out the Shawn blames Aceto thread. Funny.
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    Woah! U have been in circle with so many pros. U should maKe some threads solely for those stories. Is there ANY pro that Shawn has ever liked ?
    They used to get on here but were chased off by 165 lb kids who cry a lot. He likes Phil and Dex. Cant argue with that. My two favorites.
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    I just mean Ray seemed better as a spokesperson for bbing.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    They used to get on here but were chased off by 165 lb kids who cry a lot. He likes Phil and Dex. Cant argue with that. My two favorites.
    I think he likes those pros more with whom he can relate to.. He can certainly not relate to Cedric. Maybe he's got that inferiority complex for being short that some people have.
    It's sad that he competed against Lee, Yates, Ronnie. It's understandable that he has been mad ever since

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    I just mean Ray seemed better as a spokesperson for bbing.
    Not really. If you see his posts , he is too easy to provoke , loses his calm.. Starts getting personal and bashing all the other athletes too sometimes. If he had won , he would have become the cockiest. Not in a good way.
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    I think his hair was holding him back.
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    Originally Posted by ImAlexBrah View Post
    I think his hair was holding him back.
    I dont like him but he was an amazing poser. I wouldnt be mad if he won at least two of the Os. He is top Five in my opinion all time.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    I dont like him but he was an amazing poser. I wouldnt be mad if he won at least two of the Os. He is top Five in my opinion all time.
    Too bad 212 class. Didn't exist back then. Would have keep winning it until he retired.
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    'Cause it seemd like Shawn Ray looked the same from the moment he turned pro 'til the moment he retired.
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    How many times have you heard him tell the "I chose to be a bodybuilder at the wrong time" story complaining about Dorian and co.? At least a dozen for me
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    Originally Posted by endurancell View Post
    How many times have you heard him tell the "I chose to be a bodybuilder at the wrong time" story complaining about Dorian and co.? At least a dozen for me
    Not surprising coming from a guy who retired in 2001 because Kevin Levrone turned in his Olympia paperwork late and was still allowed to compete.
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    Too bad 212 class. Didn't exist back then. Would have keep winning it until he retired.
    Top place in the open>top place in 212. There are some guys who compete in the open, like Dex, Branch, Bonac, Lesukov (and a couple of them with good results), even if they could be even better in the 212s. But the money and reputation are a lot bigger in the open.

    It's just that Shawn had/has a big mouth and kept complaining about the height/weight difference. I'm sure that, even if it were a 212 division during his time, he'd still have competed in the open. Many 2-5 placings with the greats of the 90s-early00s, as he did it, is a lot better than being first in the 212 for years in a row and beating smaller and less known guys.
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    Originally Posted by MoonWalker0 View Post
    Surely Shawn Ray would have done a lot more to promote bbing in the 1990's compared to Dorian. Ray looked great and was a great speaker and he could have promoted the sport a lot more. How did it benefit bodybuilding to have Dorian win and then just run back to the UK? How was Dorian good for bodybuilding?
    Marketing people promote bodybuilding, bodybuilders win bodybuilding shows... shawn wasnt good enough to dethrone someone who made him look like a lightweight on stage.
    shawn was ripped, shawn had proportions with classic lines but he did not have what the 90's were marking highly, the freak factor.
    Like bob paris and lee lebrada, they looked unreal on stage but they were always beaten by those with more mass
    Dont over complicate things which should be relatively simple... stick to the ABC's of bodybuilding.
    When you start using your calculator and stressing over the latest internet study you know you've gone to far...

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    Reason 1: Lee Haney
    Reason 2: Dorian Yates
    Reason 3: Ronnie Coleman
    Reason 4: He's a dickhead - Lee Priest, John Romano, Ced McMillan, Chris Aceto, Nasser, Paul Dillet, Mike Quinn, Jay Cutler, Silvio Samuel, Dave Palumbo, just to name a few have all shared stories about him being a douche.

    Shawn constantly posts pics of him from his competitive days on his Facebook with inspiration quotes and all. Can you imagine how he'd be if he won the Olympia?
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    Never deserved to, Dorian and Ronnie beat him convincingly every time.
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    Not surprising coming from a guy who retired in 2001 because Kevin Levrone turned in his Olympia paperwork late and was still allowed to compete.
    Biggest douche/whiner in IFBB history. What else have other pros said about him? didn't Silvio's wife have an affair with shawn?
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