Can seedless grapes cause infertility-like problems (srs)

[whatisbro]

Please be as srs as possible. The reasons why I say this are

- Mercury in fish can get passed on to humans and build-up
- Hormones fed into animals to make them bigger can be passed on to humans

Now wouldn't it seem reasonable enough to assume that eating seedless fruits could have the similar effect? Considering that they are grown by taking a stem/root from a seeded plant and then inject or dip it in hormone that is meant to make the seeds sterile. And the seeds are not completely gone. In grapes, they are usually shriveled up and in watermelons, the seeds are supposedly few and are white. So wouldn't the hormones still be present in the seeds? or the fruit even?

[whatisbro]

bump.

[BalyunPex]

How 'bout you go find some documented cases of infertility caused by seedless grapes and report back how many you find.

[hwa12]

Not going to bother arguing with your hormone claim, but seedless fruits come from altering or disabling a gene in the fruit. The disabled gene can no longer produce a protein responsible for seed production, resulting in seedless fruit. Since you only inherit genes from your parents and obviously not from what you eat, there is no concern.

[whatisbro]

How 'bout you go find some documented cases of infertility caused by seedless grapes and report back how many you find.

There is none that I can find. Most likely because it isn't something tooken seriously.

[SOJA]

One could suggest that if it doesn't exist, then it's unheard of and very likely that it won't happen.

[whatisbro]

[QUOTE=hwa12;1290165571]Not going to bother arguing with your hormone claim, but seedless fruits come from altering or disabling a gene in the fruit. The disabled gene can no longer produce a protein responsible for seed production, resulting in seedless fruit./quote]Turns out the rooting hormone used actually isn't meant to make the fruit sterile. I was wrong here. But still, you're eating freak of nature fruits that come out sterile 100% of the time. Btw seedless fruit do have seeds in them. I used to have fun plucking the impotent seeds and eating them. Now i'd prefer not to

Since you only inherit genes from your parents and obviously not from what you eat, there is no concern.

Well of course there's a difference between inheriting and earning. You can inherit genes without anything you did to deserve it, such as contracting HIV, or you can earn it by contraction HIV from someone else. But of course it is possible for hormones from animals to be transffered to humans. Unless it is actually a myth.

Either way, i'll stick to seeded grapes since they have more health benefits(and aren't freaks of nature)

[BalyunPex]

There is none that I can find. Most likely because it isn't something tooken seriously.

Seedless grape production has been around since the Ottoman Empire. Even the comparatively young Thompson Seedless is ~160 years old. Millions upon millions of tons are consumed each year.

We'd have heard about it by now.

You should be able to find one case. C'mon, take your own thread seriously and put in some effort to find it.

[whatisbro]

Seedless grape production has been around since the Ottoman Empire. Even the comparatively young Thompson Seedless is ~160 years old. Millions upon millions of tons are consumed each year.

We'd have heard about it by now.

You should be able to find one case. C'mon, take your own thread seriously and put in some effort to find it.

Maybe. Like I said I already searched. I'm not going beyond the first 2 pages of google.

[SOJA]

Not to nipick, but HIV is an infection, it doesn't alter genes. The way HIV is introduced into a victim isn't the same method as how genes are passed from parent to child during development in the womb. HIV binds itself to TH cells during infection and during child development. Viral and bacterial diseases do carry their own genetic code though. Some genetic mutations prevent disease like HIV from ever infecting a person.


High school biology though. Schools out to lay off the budget cuts.

[BalyunPex]

Maybe. Like I said I already searched. I'm not going beyond the first 2 pages of google.

So in other words, you're not willing to take seriously some effort to find even one occurrence of grape-induced infertility? (yet, you want this moronic thread to be taken seriously...)

Why are you still here? Go bring us a no-babies grape case.

[sredips]

Seedless grapes are a natural mutation and are reproduced by taking the stem of a mutant plant

I'd say they're safe. I eat them all the time and I am so fertile that apparently I shouldn't even touch girls without gloves

[SOJA]

And this just got creepy.

[BalyunPex]

I eat them all the time and I am so fertile that apparently I shouldn't even touch girls without gloves

A lot of girls don't wear gloves. Nearly all of them, I'd say.



Oh. Wait.



I think I see the strategy.

[whatisbro]

So in other words, you're not willing to take seriously some effort to find even one occurrence of grape-induced infertility? (yet, you want this moronic thread to be taken seriously...)

Why are you still here? Go bring us a no-babies grape case.

Dude, you're taking this way too seriously. I asked a simple question. If I was going to die in 2 hrs if I didn't learn how to outspeed a cheetah, then I would spend all the time I have searching this subject. Even the first 2 pages scarcely mentioned much about infertility and seedless fruits. And anyone who knows something about SEO knows that if the subject is such scarcely mentioned within the first 2 top pages, then chances are you wont find it on the other pages.

[desslok]

Just tell the ladies no need for a hat, cause you are on that seedless grape time. See how it works out for ya

[Mncdk]

I wonder, how are seedless grapes different from bananas? Besides the obvious of course, but both are seedless. Why limit the inquiry to grapes?
The fact that either is seedless has nothing to do with hormones, it's a naturally occurring genetic mutation (we've been eating seedless stuff for centuries if not millennia).

Stay in school.

[Connor1226]

The plant is dipped in rooting hormone.
This has nothing to do with human hormones, nor why the fruit is seedless. That is for replanting and reproductive purposes. Nothing to do with the seeds or the fruit.

Research stuff a little more before you freak out.

[AFC96]

if its not taken seriously by nutritionist around the world then why should you?

[WonderPug]

Can seedless grapes cause infertility-like problems (srs)

For grapes, absolutely.

[snorkelman]

Either way, i'll stick to seeded grapes since they have more health benefits...

Really?

[razor23]

Honestly OP, I'd be more worried about the pesticides on seedless grapes than the genes you think you might absorb. Seedless grapes are always in the top 10 most pesticide laden fruits/veggies out there and I'd worry a heck of a lot more about the hormonal effects of the pesticides than this gene effect you're worried about.

[PBateman2]

No concern.

[Gxp23]

Dude, you're taking this way too seriously. I asked a simple question. If I was going to die in 2 hrs if I didn't learn how to outspeed a cheetah, then I would spend all the time I have searching this subject. Even the first 2 pages scarcely mentioned much about infertility and seedless fruits. And anyone who knows something about SEO knows that if the subject is such scarcely mentioned within the first 2 top pages, then chances are you wont find it on the other pages.

lol.

[SmcAtUb]

Please be as srs as possible. The reasons why I say this are

- Mercury in fish can get passed on to humans and build-up
- Hormones fed into animals to make them bigger can be passed on to humans

Now wouldn't it seem reasonable enough to assume that eating seedless fruits could have the similar effect? Considering that they are grown by taking a stem/root from a seeded plant and then inject or dip it in hormone that is meant to make the seeds sterile. And the seeds are not completely gone. In grapes, they are usually shriveled up and in watermelons, the seeds are supposedly few and are white. So wouldn't the hormones still be present in the seeds? or the fruit even?

I think it's more important to avoid chicken - otherwise you might start laying eggs.

[whatisbro]

Really?

Seeded grapes have more fiber. That's the health benefit I was talking about

[digistp]

If you dip them in creatine it will counter balance the effects.

[rhadam]

I see a Darwin Award in OP's future.

[MetilHed]

I see a Darwin Award in OP's future.

One can only hope.

[reckless101]

Just tell the ladies no need for a hat, cause you are on that seedless grape time. See how it works out for ya

fking lol'd hard at this xD