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    lifting to increase vertical, what tempo to lift with?

    I know you have to explode on the concentric part of the lift but what about the eccentric? do i use a slow tempo on the way down or just drop down fast and explode back up?

    on a side note i tried to go fast on the eccentric today but wasn't able to explode up when doing that
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    Originally Posted by Miscticalkid View Post
    I know you have to explode on the concentric part of the lift but what about the eccentric? do i use a slow tempo on the way down or just drop down fast and explode back up?

    on a side note i tried to go fast on the eccentric today but wasn't able to explode up when doing that
    Lower under control and explode with the concentric.

    I am unconvinced by fast eccentrics except in very limited circumstances in very advanced athletes.
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    The Jump Manual Book vs. Vertical Mastery

    Has anyone used this book or read it??????
    Is it really worth the buck, or will i get


    Here's vertical mastery


    http://jumpshigher.com/downloads/Ver...iningGuide.pdf


    which one is better
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    1. Proper nutrition. If youre not eating right, or enough you wont get stronger.

    2. Watch your jump on video. Are you dropping you shoulder? Are you powering down? Are you slowing down? Try keeping your shoulders up. Dont bend your knees a lot and power down (as in change your momentum down then trying to jump up). Keep up speed while going to basket. I have seen a lot of tall guys who could almost dunk. Half an hour of coaching these techniques and they can dunk.

    3. Stretch your arms really good. Being a lil more flexible helps you reach farther. can give you 2 more inches of reach if your shoulders are tight. Are you a one legged or two legged jumper?

    4. Do plyos every 3 days. Rest your legs. They get stronger and bigger while you heal.

    5. Are you overtraining?

    If you could put up a vid of your jump I could help you more. I am 5.9 with shoes on and 198lbs. I can dunk with left arm off one foot. I cant dunk with right arm. Im right handed. My left arm stretches better. Flexibilty. I can easily grab rim off two feet. If a short, beaten knees 33 year old can do it, So can you. I have tore my ACL, Meniscus and sprained my ankles over 20 times each. I never thought Id be the same after the acl. If you tell yourself you will fail, you will. Try to post a vid.
    Hey man, would you mind watching my vid here and give me some tips on how to improve my jump technique ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBbdNqm4gjY

    I'm very close to dunking again, I'm 30 years old and I'm on a journey to dunking after a broken leg.

    Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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    Does anyone know about the supercat machine? We have one at our school and I was wondering if I should start to use it during my weightlifting class. Would it help my vertical at all?
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    hey guys i got a few questions about plyos
    1: how many times a week should i do plyos
    2:should i do them on my lifting days. Lifts are squats, powerclean, bench, rdl, step ups and single leg squats
    3: what other plyo workouts should i be doing.
    plyo routine: 4x30 ankle hops each foot
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    i do my sprint workouts twice a week, and i after im done with my sprints, i start doing my plyos
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    Originally Posted by libanbolt View Post
    hey guys i got a few questions about plyos
    1: how many times a week should i do plyos
    2:should i do them on my lifting days. Lifts are squats, powerclean, bench, rdl, step ups and single leg squats
    3: what other plyo workouts should i be doing.
    plyo routine: 4x30 ankle hops each foot
    4x8 box jumps
    4x20 squat jumps
    and last 4x5 running one leg jump( i high jump for my school and i am trying to practice my takeoff)
    whats your pb
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    guys just want to throw in a little discussion how much do you think an average genetic male can reach in terms of vertical I think almost everybody can reach 35-36inch of course if a guy isn't too old or has very slow CNS. What you think?
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    Originally Posted by Andy3083 View Post
    Anyone tried this program?

    twicethespeed.com/product-detail.php?id=9

    They have a sale on goes down to $49 and I was thinking about picking it up.

    Seems about as legit as any one of these training systems. "Grow Taller Overnight" made me question this guys product though.
    Cascio is legit. I started using his stuff my senior year of high school with only a 26 inch vert. Year an a half later I was at 37 and consistently dunking in college games. The grow taller thing is a marketing scheme. Spoiler alert it all stretching designed to elongate your spine while you sleep to decompress your
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    Originally Posted by Heimdalll View Post
    guys just want to throw in a little discussion how much do you think an average genetic male can reach in terms of vertical I think almost everybody can reach 35-36inch of course if a guy isn't too old or has very slow CNS. What you think?
    I agree man I think it depends on how you define the vert though. Any guy can heave their knees up to their chest and land on 35-36 inch box. When we do that for my school almost everyone hits at least 45(granted it's a basketball team) but when I think vertical jump I think either landing straight legged or vertical touch test. That's just me tho
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    Originally Posted by Jhooper13 View Post
    I agree man I think it depends on how you define the vert though. Any guy can heave their knees up to their chest and land on 35-36 inch box. When we do that for my school almost everyone hits at least 45(granted it's a basketball team) but when I think vertical jump I think either landing straight legged or vertical touch test. That's just me tho
    I am talking about legit vertical jump(standing running it doesn't matter) but not a box jump.

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    When you do depth jumps, should you rest for 2-3 minutes in between sets?
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    When you do depth jumps, should you rest for 2-3 minutes in between sets?
    2-3 min of rest seems fine. You shouldn't need to rest longer than 3 minutes though.

    Rest should be dependent a few things:
    -the height of the drop (the depth)...the greater the height the more intense the exercise
    -amount of weight used in the exercise (BW, weighted vest, or holding weight)...the more weight the more intense the exercise
    -reps per set...the more reps the more intense the exercise
    -your personal level of fitness...If you feel your legs aren't well rested after 2 minutes then rest longer.

    Overall, the more intense the exercise the more rest is required to recover.
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    Originally Posted by KAFitness View Post
    2-3 min of rest seems fine. You shouldn't need to rest longer than 3 minutes though.

    Rest should be dependent a few things:
    -the height of the drop (the depth)...the greater the height the more intense the exercise
    -amount of weight used in the exercise (BW, weighted vest, or holding weight)...the more weight the more intense the exercise
    -reps per set...the more reps the more intense the exercise
    -your personal level of fitness...If you feel your legs aren't well rested after 2 minutes then rest longer.

    Overall, the more intense the exercise the more rest is required to recover.
    BTW... can you use ankle weights for more than BW resistance? And as for the weights, light weights right? I do this with my bodyweight.. it's hard as it is.. but I was wondering about this.
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    Originally Posted by theFutureD View Post
    BTW... can you use ankle weights for more than BW resistance? And as for the weights, light weights right? I do this with my bodyweight.. it's hard as it is.. but I was wondering about this.
    You could use ankle weights but I don't recommend it. BW is fine, especially because depth jumps are already pretty taxing on the legs. If you do decide to use weight make sure it's light to light-mod.
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    Originally Posted by theFutureD View Post
    BTW... can you use ankle weights for more than BW resistance? And as for the weights, light weights right? I do this with my bodyweight.. it's hard as it is.. but I was wondering about this.
    Ankle weights will do nothing. In any exercise, but especially drop jumps. Actually, I lie. They will actually hurt your development. The point of drop jumps is fast return of force. Any weight will slow that down. But ankle weights are a whole new thing. They'll slow your ground contact time, but don't actually add anything to the concentric component at all as the upper body and legs have already accelerated.

    Also, I'm sick of saying this, but I'll say it again. Depth jumps are a very advanced exercise which have to be built up to to get anything out of. You need to be able to return force quickly without any structural deformity in feet, knees or hips on contact. You also need to be strong enough to perform the exercise. You also need to know how to set the box height for maximal effect (higher is not better) and you need to know how to load the movement if needed.

    Higher boxes increase your ground contact time. So does loading the movement. Few athletes are physically prepared for drop jumps. Less are able to perform them effectively from a high box and fewer still are able to load them.
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    Low Bar or High Bar Squats for vertical jump? Also, Conventional or Sumo Deadlifts?

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    I'm just wondering which squat variation has more carry over to the vertical jump. High Bar Squats or Low Bar Squats? How wide is the stance and how deep I should go? Same thing with the deadlifts, should I do conventional deadlifts or sumo deadlifts?

    I read that the posterior chain muscles plays larger role than quads which means Low Bar and Sumos but I feel like high bar and conventional look similar to the vertical jump. Also, all those explosive olympic lifter do high bar squats and conventional deadlifts!

    What's your take on?
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    sumo deadlifts are for geared powerlifters.
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    sumo can be used, but conventional is far more useful for increasing back and hip strength and pairs well with high bar squats.

    I feel high bar would have better transference to vert simply because the positions and muscles emphasized are similar, but low bar is just as useful for increasing your leg strength
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    Originally Posted by Bballer99 View Post
    sumo can be used, but conventional is far more useful for increasing back and hip strength and pairs well with high bar squats.

    I feel high bar would have better transference to vert simply because the positions and muscles emphasized are similar, but low bar is just as useful for increasing your leg strength
    Only thing that sumo does better then conventional is crushing the hips so if you lack hip strength sumos are actually better.
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    Just basing this on the mechanics of a typical vertical jump, I would say a high bar squat as it doesn't seem beneficial to flex at the waist significantly if your aim is to jump as high as possible. An upright torso seems more conducive. As for the deadlift, a conventional stance for the same reason. Most people wouldn't take a wide stance if their aim is to jump as high as possible.
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    okay one more thing I want to add while you lift you don't try to mimic a vertical jump you are trying to increase your strength!!! High bar squat is more often used to build quads rather then building overall strength in your legs. low bar squats are for moving BIG weight using way more musculature: posterior chain(glutes,hips,hamstrings) and your quads still have hell of a work to do. now which you think is more beneficial? As for deadlifts conventional is way more demanding on your upper,lower back and your core then sumos but sumos are hitting hips harder but it isn't as hard on your back as conventional. You decide which is better for you...
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    Originally Posted by Heimdalll View Post
    okay one more thing I want to add while you lift you don't try to mimic a vertical jump you are trying to increase your strength!!! High bar squat is more often used to build quads rather then building overall strength in your legs. low bar squats are for moving BIG weight using way more musculature: posterior chain(glutes,hips,hamstrings) and your quads still have hell of a work to do. now which you think is more beneficial? As for deadlifts conventional is way more demanding on your upper,lower back and your core then sumos but sumos are hitting hips harder but it isn't as hard on your back as conventional. You decide which is better for you...
    1. Why not? With regard to strength and conditioning, it is entirely beneficial to program using lifts and exercises that more closely mimic movements used in a sport, for example jumping. Hence, why so many coaches will incorporate single leg isolateral movements given that a lot of time is spent on one leg while running, skating, changing direction. I would say that the high bar more closely resembles a jump. I'm not saying relative strength isn't crucial for rate of force development, but the mechanics of a selected exercise do matter.

    2. It's not only a quad-dominant lift, particularly when you squat full depth. Not only that, many people prefer high bar to low bar and can lift more using that position.
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    Originally Posted by Zwicker View Post
    1. Why not? With regard to strength and conditioning, it is entirely beneficial to program using lifts and exercises that more closely mimic movements used in a sport, for example jumping. Hence, why so many coaches will incorporate single leg isolateral movements given that a lot of time is spent on one leg while running, skating, changing direction. I would say that the high bar more closely resembles a jump. I'm not saying relative strength isn't crucial for rate of force development, but the mechanics of a selected exercise do matter.

    2. It's not only a quad-dominant lift, particularly when you squat full depth. Not only that, many people prefer high bar to low bar and can lift more using that position.
    1.I again say that purpose of squatting is increasing strength in your legs and low bar squat is better for this purpose. Of course high bar squat doesn't hit only quads it is a SQUAT so it is a compound movement but it still neglects posterior chain compared to a low bar while low bar hits all of them so in conclusion: your hamstrings are stronger? you jump higher, glutes stronger? you jump higher, quads stronger? you jump higher. Which is better for getting them stronger? Low bar squat.

    2.The only reason people lift more with a high bar is because: a)they have never done low bar before so they don't know how to activate their hamstrings and glutes,hips during a squat. b)they have very weak glutes and hamstrings and they can't bear the shifted weight when changing position.

    3. This isolateral movements you are referring to are completely different story some people can jump better with one leg so this is when you add this one leg lifts but they aren't going to increase strength much and they are used as a accessory,complimentary work and this has nothing to do with OP's question.

    My advice to OP
    Do low bar and conventional but play with sumos here and there and let's say when you can squat 2x with low bar and you think your quads are lacking and they are dragging you back from that 40 inch vert then you can use some high bar squats or even better a front squat.
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    I'm assuming you are beginner/intermediate then short answer is High Bar and Conventional even if you can lift more heavy weights on high bar & sumos. Joe Defranco who is one of the best strength & conditioning coaches out there will approve this.

    Deep high bar recruit more muscle fibers and conventional as well since it has more ROM than sumos. If you are doing both of them why not maximizing quad gains by doing high bar and maximizing posterior chain gains by conventional deadlifts. It is obvious that conventional deadlifts are much better than low bar squats to develop the posterior chain specifically.

    Again for the vast majority of beginners and intermediates will benefit more by doing high bar squats and conventional deadlifts.
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    Originally Posted by AquariusR View Post
    -I have a 7ft 3 standing reach.
    -I can get half my hand above rim while jumping off one foot but can barely touch it while jumping off two .
    -Im 120pounds and I can squat 220pounds on half squats and around 180 on deep squats .
    -Keep in mind im only 14 yrs old and a freshmen. 3months ago i was barely touching rim
    Now im trying to gain 6inches mininum on my vert in 1 year to start dunking but i would like to gain 10-12. Is it possible? I dont know what to focus on now to steadily keep adding to my vert.
    Improvements made ! I can now grab rim consistently and hang on it so i've gained around 2inches? Anyways , do i continue to increase my strength or focus on plyos?
    Also shouldn't i be doing working on more specific things at this point?
    * i only need to gain 4more inches at the least to dunk but going for 8 so ill be able to slam it.
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    Best squat variation for vertical jump

    I just want to know which squat will help me get better jump gains, front squat, jump squat, regular??
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    What is the proper running vertcal jump form.

    I dont understand, its like it's hard for me to convert horizontal thrust into vertical thrust.
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