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    Originally Posted by rhymeswithcash View Post
    I would say first order of business is to get your squat to 1.5 times your bodyweight.
    Thats gonna be my goal for now.
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    Please HELP!!!

    So I've been doing SS for 2 month I am squatting 1.8x my bodyweight I am 75kg(165lbs) squatting 140kg(310lbs) but when I started I was squatting only 70kg(155) but since then my vertical gains were very small 1-2 inches not more I was also doing plyometrics 2x a week for a month but still don't see any improvments

    Plyos look like this

    Depth Drops-3x5
    Box jumps-3x5
    Rim jumps-2x5
    Maximal effort jumps-2x5

    should I change something? why vertical is not increasing???

    BTW my vertical is 28-30 inches from still (rough measurment)

    I was thinking of doing Vertical Jump Bible Full reactive routine but I don't want to dump SS yet
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    Official vertical/jumping/dunking thread

    Post all vertical, jumping, dunking questions here.
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    Originally Posted by Heimdalll View Post
    So I've been doing SS for 2 month I am squatting 1.8x my bodyweight I am 75kg(165lbs) squatting 140kg(310lbs) but when I started I was squatting only 70kg(155) but since then my vertical gains were very small 1-2 inches not more I was also doing plyometrics 2x a week for a month but still don't see any improvments

    Plyos look like this

    Depth Drops-3x5
    Box jumps-3x5
    Rim jumps-2x5
    Maximal effort jumps-2x5

    should I change something? why vertical is not increasing???

    BTW my vertical is 28-30 inches from still (rough measurment)

    I was thinking of doing Vertical Jump Bible Full reactive routine but I don't want to dump SS yet
    Your routine is a good, basic routine. You may be at the point where a generalist routine won't improve a specialist skill.

    Measure your vert properly. Also, a 1-2" gain is not small.
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    Originally Posted by TheArchangels View Post
    bump

    Just trust me on this, my legs are very strong. I have lifted before and in all the leg stuff or sled-work I do way better than all the other guys lifting all the time
    Try to learn proper form on power cleans and snatch if you have access to a weight room with those lifts. Both are extremely athletic movements and can boost your vertical and strength if done right.
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    vertical training

    Hey guys I'm try to b able to dunk by the end of my grade 12 year right now I can grab well kind grab rim I know u need to go at least 6 inches over rim to dunk so I wanna know some good workouts to train my vertical
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    Originally Posted by 1Bleak View Post
    I do standing broad jumps, squat jumps, depth jumps, 40 yard sprints, jumps for height, and I also dunk almost everyday for fun. I keep reps low and rest at least 3 minutes between set so I recover completely. Reps are under 8 usually
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    What are your lifts?
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    Originally Posted by rebel0718 View Post
    Try to learn proper form on power cleans and snatch if you have access to a weight room with those lifts. Both are extremely athletic movements and can boost your vertical and strength if done right.
    Sorry. Not the right advice for someone with no real lifting experience. Start with learning and practicing the squat, rather than the far more technical lifts - especially in the case of the snatch.
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    I'm 6'2 190 and can kinda dunk off 2 legs with 2 hands.nut when I try 1 leg with 1 hand or 2 I just completely fail... How do u guys feel about 1 leg vs 2 leg jumping
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    1 leg jumping vs 2 leg jumping for dunking

    I can only dunk off 2 legs why is that.usally people get higher and have there first dunks off 1 leg.i also can only dunk with both hand on the ball compared to 1.
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    Originally Posted by Ballislifechris View Post
    I'm 6'2 190 and can kinda dunk off 2 legs with 2 hands.nut when I try 1 leg with 1 hand or 2 I just completely fail... How do u guys feel about 1 leg vs 2 leg jumping
    I'm a one foot jumper. I read some where strong, quad dominate people are better at 2 foot and more explosive, hamstring/glute dominate people jump of one better. Technique is also a big factor.
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    Originally Posted by krakkerz View Post
    You may be at the point where a generalist routine won't improve a specialist skill. Measure your vert properly.
    don't quite understand what this means... also My standing reach is 7.6ft with shoes on and I touch the rim from standing vert (which is not much different from running vert somehow...) so it must be 30-31 inches. but It's no diffenrent from what it was before I could even squat my BW
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    Alright so here's the thing: I go to gym 3-4 times a week, I include plyometrics with weighted vest(10 to 20lbs) in my gym sessions twice a week (I also do squats and calf raises on my plyometric days) and I also play pick up ball at least twice a week.
    Am I overdoing it ? Should I allow my body more rest to get more results ? What do you guys think ?
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    Originally Posted by Heimdalll View Post
    don't quite understand what this means... also My standing reach is 7.6ft with shoes on and I touch the rim from standing vert (which is not much different from running vert somehow...) so it must be 30-31 inches. but It's no diffenrent from what it was before I could even squat my BW
    Firstly, it means there is no reason to say "about" with a vert measurement. It is trivial to measure it properly.

    Secondly, it means that the routine you've been using is good in developing a wide range of qualities. Once you get to a decent level and you want to improve one specific skill, you may need a specific routine.
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    Originally Posted by krakkerz View Post
    Firstly, it means there is no reason to say "about" with a vert measurement. It is trivial to measure it properly.

    Secondly, it means that the routine you've been using is good in developing a wide range of qualities. Once you get to a decent level and you want to improve one specific skill, you may need a specific routine.
    thanks for explaining I also wondered why my standing and running vert is pretty much the same?
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    1 leg jumping vs 2 leg jumping please inform me

    For sum reason I can only jump high with 2 legs my 1 leg vert is like 15inches and it gets me mad because most dunkers dunk off 1
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    Originally Posted by Ballislifechris View Post
    For sum reason I can only jump high with 2 legs my 1 leg vert is like 15inches and it gets me mad because most dunkers dunk off 1
    You're most likely a power jumper. Meaning that you're using mainly your quads to jump.
    BTW, many dunkers in the NBA are 2 leg jumpers.
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    Originally Posted by rhymeswithcash View Post
    Might be bad technique.
    Well I tried to learn as much as youtube videos provided, don't stutter step,don't bend too low,stay high,etc...
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    Originally Posted by Heimdalll View Post
    Well I tried to learn as much as youtube videos provided, don't stutter step,don't bend too low,stay high,etc...
    Then you are probably jumping with your strength rather than explosiveness.
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    strength + plyo split

    Could I do legs on one day to build strength, rest for two days, do a plyometric day, rest for a day, and then do another plyometric day and see adequate results for a vertical leap increase? Or is that too many lower body training days in too short of a span of time?

    Edit: max squat is BW x 1.5 for two or three reps so I figure that should help.
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    Question in questions about the vertical training program Freak Vertical

    Good evening everyone, im pretty new to this forum...just have some questions about this training program...is it scam or it works? thanks for your kindly reply.
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    Originally Posted by Darkpeter568 View Post
    Good evening everyone, im pretty new to this forum...just have some questions about this training program...is it scam or it works? thanks for your kindly reply.
    At best, it's overpriced - even at $77 as opposed to the "regular price" of $287. There is plenty of free advice to be had that is likely better than a cookie-cutter computer program.
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    Originally Posted by Discosandman View Post
    Could I do legs on one day to build strength, rest for two days, do a plyometric day, rest for a day, and then do another plyometric day and see adequate results for a vertical leap increase? Or is that too many lower body training days in too short of a span of time?

    Edit: max squat is BW x 1.5 for two or three reps so I figure that should help.
    It sounds fine to me, don't forget to train your core muscles as well.
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    Should I incorporate core training on one of the plyo days or a separate day altogether?
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    Starting the jump manual tomorrow. I think leg press wouldn't help me as much so I'm going with squat. Should I do half squats or deep squats? Which are most beneficial for vertical jump increase? And can you really gain 10 inches in 3 months?
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    dunkinh

    I'm 6 foot can grab rim but when I have the ball in my hand I get nowhere near the net any help and how to increase vert?
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    Starting jump manual tomorrow! Tips?

    Starting the jump manual tomorrow. I think leg press wouldn't help me as much so I'm going with squat. Should I do half squats or deep squats? Which are most beneficial for vertical jump increase? And can you really gain 10 inches in 3 months?
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