The Nutmisc Game Thread: We Don't Even Lift, and We Don't Get Laid

[unstrong]

There seems to be the makings of a dedicated following for a thread like this, so naturally it was time to create it. There was some dissatisfaction with the level of detectiving/overused recycled garbage going on in the full misc threads, so we're creating our own Nutmisc version. I thought about stealing X's rhyming titles (the original idea was "Friend Zones and Forever Alones"), but it just didn't feel right.

The thread will be pretty open ended and can include anything from "what shall I say next?" situations (either joking or serious) to asking for advice and critique, how to construct online dating profiles, dating situations with real life friends, and general theory on game. Additional banter is encouraged.

For all you game spitters and heavy hitters out there, come grace the thread with your presence and wisdom.

[VmissileX]

i thought we were talking about video games....



i'll door myself...:P



Ok not srs...will stay for the lulz

[TypeNirvash]

In on 1st page!

Stand aside, VMX!

[ErikTheElectric]

in. (to spectate)

[VmissileX]

In on 1st page!

Stand aside, VMX!
[IMG]

srill gonna be in for teh lulz

[DAaaMan64]

Favorite article on the topic.

Discuss?

[themonkay]

i thought we were talking about video games....

lmao thats what I thought.

[unstrong]

Okay, I'll start us off. First "What should I say next?" is a girl on POF that has viewed my profile a few times now. She hasn't messaged me and probably hasn't gotten me on the Meet Me function so it's not a guarantee that we'll get a response. She has a pretty tight body and not a bad face. She does, however, have a profile full of cliche red flag after cliche red flag. All included below. Green lines to try to keep potential invading detectives at bay.





About Me:
Well I'm very fun and outgoing. I'm a girly girl but I get along so much better with guys than girls.Im not really into drama. I'm always up for doing different things and going different places. I am a professional and mature for my age. I'm single now, but not looking for anything in particular. Hmu and we can see where it goes

Interests:
Drinking
Gym
Shopping
Skiing
Amusement parks
Swimming
Walks Traveling
Anything outdoors
Having fun
Lazy days curled up on the couch watching movies


Feel free to take this is a serious or lulzy direction, the choice is the collective "yours"

Also, a conversation with a nurse that works the overnight shift last night. I would have taken it further but it was 3 AM and she was working, so I called it a night after some success. #TeamCheesyGame

[TypeNirvash]

Let's give this a shot!

"I was curious to see where this would go, too."

[unstrong]

The best article I've read on the topic.

Discuss?

Link is 404'ing, any other way to get to it?

[Lvisaa2]

Reading, talking, or really thinking about "game" is the very epitome of anti-game. Even if you find someone using some bs then sooner or later they're gonna have to deal with the real you, so might as well go out and just be yourself. Be passionate, be confident, and be true to you. That means doing the things you love and not being ashamed of them or yourself. Always worked for me, but disregard if simply trying to get random hook ups. That doesn't really matter because either way she leaves the next morning.

[TypeNirvash]

Reading, talking, or really thinking about "game" is the very epitome of anti-game. Even if you find someone using some bs then sooner or later they're gonna have to deal with the real you, so might as well go out and just be yourself. Be passionate, be confident, and be true to you. That means doing the things you love and not being ashamed of them or yourself. Always worked for me, but disregard if simply trying to get random hook ups. That doesn't really matter because either way she leaves the next morning.

I'd say that in this scenario, the game might get you a hook up. Game, and looks is what gets their attention. But anything beyond that, you're going to have to get yourself. Only your personality can determine whether or not you get a second date.

But I'd say this is also all in good fun, more so than the guys looking for an SO

[DAaaMan64]

Link is 404'ing, any other way to get to it?

fixed

BB . COM FILTERRRRRR DAMN YOU

[unstrong]

Reading, talking, or really thinking about "game" is the very epitome of anti-game. Even if you find someone using some bs then sooner or later they're gonna have to deal with the real you, so might as well go out and just be yourself. Be passionate, be confident, and be true to you. That means doing the things you love and not being ashamed of them or yourself. Always worked for me, but disregard if simply trying to get random hook ups. That doesn't really matter because either way she leaves the next morning.

I mean, game is really all in the eye of the beholder though, isn't it Lee? I'm 100% in agreement that adopting some kind of different persona and giving up who you are is a terrible idea. Some people use game to mean just picking up chicks and hooking up. To me, that's a pretty narrow definition. Most aspects of "game" as I take it to mean are applicable to all social interactions. Creating rapport, finding connections, keeping interesting conversation. To me, the biggest mistake people make is exceptionalizing this interaction with women. But then there's creating attraction... which to me is a specialized enough skill that it requires practice. The initial process of building attraction is much harder than maintaining it. You have a fairly short window to impress upon someone that you're someone worth dating/sleeping with/whatever you're going for. This doesn't come natural to most people. However, most things necessary to maintain attraction (i.e., romance) do come naturally. So I don't see a problem with developing that initial stage of attraction building.

Feel free to let me know where you disagree, I actually really enjoy talking about the morality/validity of this kind of stuff.

[unstrong]

fixed

BB . COM FILTERRRRRR DAMN YOU

LOL I figured out what the problem is

I thought the asterisks were how the article appeared on the site

Reading now

[CycoCyclone]

I'll get in on this! Wouldn't say I have much game though. I pretty much just try to be myself and they can take it or leave it. I have a friend who is a great liar when it comes to picking up women. Sooooo much game. I just can't do that for some reason. Everyone is different though! Looking forward to some lulz maybe I will contribute once and awhile.

[cls91]

Back from the gym, annddddd...

in.


@Lee/unstrong; agree that putting on a 'fake' you is the worst way to actually get a girl to like you. Pre-scripted lines, automatic responses, etc. is all terrible 'game' when it comes down to it, but it has it's advantages. Some people just aren't great with the ladies, so using pre-scripted lines can help get the conversation flowing, and help people feel more comfortable conversing.

IMO, game is something that is unique to an individual and can't be taught or learnt (despite many attempts, like the book The Game)... but getting help from other people can stimulate conversation and create the opportunity for someone to develop their own game. The thing that I find most beneficial about using pre-scripted lines is that you get to see typical responses; learn what's going through their heads when you say specific things... it helps you learn how to 'read' people, so that in future conversations you know the right things to say.

When it comes down to it, you need to be yourself because there is no fake persona that you can carry with you 24/7... but for things like tinder, pof, club nights, etc., a thread like this can help someone get a quick lay if that's all they're looking for (although hopefully they're not messaging in here from the club lol)

[TypeNirvash]

Waiting for unstrong to text girl # 1...

[Lvisaa2]

I mean, game is really all in the eye of the beholder though, isn't it Lee? I'm 100% in agreement that adopting some kind of different persona and giving up who you are is a terrible idea. Some people use game to mean just picking up chicks and hooking up. To me, that's a pretty narrow definition. Most aspects of "game" as I take it to mean are applicable to all social interactions. Creating rapport, finding connections, keeping interesting conversation. To me, the biggest mistake people make is exceptionalizing this interaction with women. But then there's creating attraction... which to me is a specialized enough skill that it requires practice. The initial process of building attraction is much harder than maintaining it. You have a fairly short window to impress upon someone that you're someone worth dating/sleeping with/whatever you're going for. This doesn't come natural to most people. However, most things necessary to maintain attraction (i.e., romance) do come naturally. So I don't see a problem with developing that initial stage of attraction building.

Feel free to let me know where you disagree, I actually really enjoy talking about the morality/validity of this kind of stuff.

I guess I find overanalysis of the human interaction to detract from the interaction itself. It is experiential in nature and those that, IMO, do best with it are not the one's who spend hours thinking about it. A charismatic person is charismatic by either nature or practice. Neither of which is ascertained through great deliberation on the actual act.

I'd actually argue that overthinking is one of the greatest inhibitors of someone trying to actually establish a true connection. In a moment of true, genuine human connection - the words are one of the least important things. Being in the here-and-now and staying there will facilitate that connection and part of that is very minimalistic analysis. It's a touch, warmth, persona, laugh - all of it and none of that can really be taught. I'm currently interning in a hospice, some of the purest interactions are with limited or non-communicative patients and so much of the work, even with highly verbal patients, is not done through words

Now, when you take this and translate it to the online world then everything changes, but I'd just say go out and establish yourself in the real world before doing the online thing. It'll make the interaction there much easier (and likely lacking). I've never had problems really talking to women. In fact, I find conversation with them to be many times easier, but part of that is approach. I don't go into an interaction with a female as a potential mate/hook-up/partner, I go into as an interaction with another human being and possibility to establish something real with them. For the most part, I think this goes well. At times, especially in certain settings, I think this can throw them for a loop because they are used to guys being a certain way, but most are receptive even if confused. Past that, I just let things be and if I want more later on then I go for it. There isn't an exact methodology because it isn't exact. You're taking two individuals in various situations so to prescribe a to-do list is misinformed. Maybe I am biased because I have always rather easily connected with people and hence the field I chose to go into, but it seems like missing the forest for the trees.

[unstrong]

Waiting for unstrong to text girl # 1...

You guys are supposed to provide the lines lol

I'm still waiting

[TypeNirvash]

I guess I find overanalysis of the human interaction to detract from the interaction itself. It is experiential in nature and those that, IMO, do best with it are not the one's who spend hours thinking about it. A charismatic person is charismatic by either nature or practice. Neither of which is ascertained through great deliberation on the actual act.

I'd actually argue that overthinking is one of the greatest inhibitors of someone trying to actually establish a true connection. In a moment of true, genuine human connection - the words are one of the least important things. Being in the here-and-now and staying there will facilitate that connection and part of that is very minimalistic analysis. It's a touch, warmth, persona, laugh - all of it and none of that can really be taught. I'm currently interning in a hospice, some of the purest interactions are with limited or non-communicative patients and so much of the work, even with highly verbal patients, is not done through words

Now, when you take this and translate it to the online world then everything changes, but I'd just say go out and establish yourself in the real world before doing the online thing. It'll make the interaction there much easier (and likely lacking). I've never had problems really talking to women. In fact, I find conversation with them to be many times easier, but part of that is approach. I don't go into an interaction with a female as a potential mate/hook-up/partner, I go into as an interaction with another human being and possibility to establish something real with them. For the most part, I think this goes well. At times, especially in certain settings, I think this can throw them for a loop because they are used to guys being a certain way, but most are receptive even if confused. Past that, I just let things be and if I want more later on then I go for it. There isn't an exact methodology because it isn't exact. You're taking two individuals in various situations so to prescribe a to-do list is misinformed. Maybe I am biased because I have always rather easily connected with people and hence the field I chose to go into, but it seems like missing the forest for the trees.

I see what you're saying, but then you essentially just dismantled a thread which was created for a less than serious topic

I mean, you're right, though. Human interaction shouldn't be forced, things should happen naturally. And with the right one, it will. Never had any trouble myself, to be honest... And I have no game, what so ever.

You guys are supposed to provide the lines lol

I'm still waiting

I did Be prepared for my dorkiness.

Let's give this a shot!

"I was curious to see where this would go, too."

[Muzzlrpress]

I shall observe from the shadows.

[Lvisaa2]

I see what you're saying, but then you essentially just dismantled a thread which was created for a less than serious topic

I mean, you're right, though. Human interaction shouldn't be forced, things should happen naturally. And with the right one, it will. Never had any trouble myself, to be honest... And I have no game, what so ever.

Lol, my opinion doesn't mean the thread can't exist. I just posted my opinion. I have two weeks off of class and free time
means I get pulled into old forums. Opinion/debate isn't meant, in my mind, to be detracting. My main jist is if you want game, stop thinking about game, and just get off your computer/phone and go talk to people.

[TypeNirvash]

Lol, my opinion doesn't mean the thread can't exist. I just posted my opinion. I have two weeks off of class and free time
means I get pulled into old forums. Opinion/debate isn't meant, in my mind, to be detracting. My main jist is if you want game, stop thinking about game, and just get off your computer/phone and go talk to people.

But your point was totally valid, and is a shared view of mine.

EDIT: But I want unstrong to get it in, though.

[unstrong]

I guess I find overanalysis of the human interaction to detract from the interaction itself. It is experiential in nature and those that, IMO, do best with it are not the one's who spend hours thinking about it. A charismatic person is charismatic by either nature or practice. Neither of which is ascertained through great deliberation on the actual act.

I'd actually argue that overthinking is one of the greatest inhibitors of someone trying to actually establish a true connection. In a moment of true, genuine human connection - the words are one of the least important things. Being in the here-and-now and staying there will facilitate that connection and part of that is very minimalistic analysis. It's a touch, warmth, persona, laugh - all of it and none of that can really be taught. I'm currently interning in a hospice, some of the purest interactions are with limited or non-communicative patients and so much of the work, even with highly verbal patients, is not done through words

Now, when you take this and translate it to the online world then everything changes, but I'd just say go out and establish yourself in the real world before doing the online thing. It'll make the interaction there much easier (and likely lacking). I've never had problems really talking to women. In fact, I find conversation with them to be many times easier, but part of that is approach. I don't go into an interaction with a female as a potential mate/hook-up/partner, I go into as an interaction with another human being and possibility to establish something real with them. For the most part, I think this goes well. At times, especially in certain settings, I think this can throw them for a loop because they are used to guys being a certain way, but most are receptive even if confused. Past that, I just let things be and if I want more later on then I go for it. There isn't an exact methodology because it isn't exact. You're taking two individuals in various situations so to prescribe a to-do list is misinformed. Maybe I am biased because I have always rather easily connected with people and hence the field I chose to go into, but it seems like missing the forest for the trees.

I actually agree with literally everything you said about your personal approach to life, conversation, and the opposite sex. The only place I disagree is that if people just relax and act naturally off the bat, they would already be at their best. And I only really disagree as someone that was decidedly *not* always good with women... and not because I was trying too hard, it was because I didn't know wtf to do. I haven't changed anything about who I am, I've just practiced and learned some small things to develop my own approach. And I think others can do that, too. I've only been in the online game for a very short time, but my first instincts are actually that it can be a good place to learn. I personally do the same things online as I do in person, the only difference is that you can step back and try things that you wouldn't normally try because there isn't the same time pressure to stay in the moment. These different choices aren't unnatural in that they're not you; but they are unnatural in that they're unpracticed and untrained. That's how I tend to distinguish there.

@Type I sent your suggestion, sorry I missed it the first time. I'm interested to see how it goes because the line doesn't prompt a response, and that's not how I usually open.

Also don't worry about my sex life brother, I'm doing fine in that department

@DMan I read the article, it's actually pretty apropos of the discussion going on ITT right now. Enjoyed it.

[TypeNirvash]

I was kidding when I said that lol.

No, the line doesn't prompt a response but it's different

[Lvisaa2]

Back from the gym, annddddd...

in.


@Lee/unstrong; agree that putting on a 'fake' you is the worst way to actually get a girl to like you. Pre-scripted lines, automatic responses, etc. is all terrible 'game' when it comes down to it, but it has it's advantages. Some people just aren't great with the ladies, so using pre-scripted lines can help get the conversation flowing, and help people feel more comfortable conversing.

IMO, game is something that is unique to an individual and can't be taught or learnt (despite many attempts, like the book The Game)... but getting help from other people can stimulate conversation and create the opportunity for someone to develop their own game. The thing that I find most beneficial about using pre-scripted lines is that you get to see typical responses; learn what's going through their heads when you say specific things... it helps you learn how to 'read' people, so that in future conversations you know the right things to say.

When it comes down to it, you need to be yourself because there is no fake persona that you can carry with you 24/7... but for things like tinder, pof, club nights, etc., a thread like this can help someone get a quick lay if that's all they're looking for (although hopefully they're not messaging in here from the club lol)

Yeah, my statements weren't aimed at someone just trying to get it in. Like I said, if she leaves in the morning then it doesn't really matter.

But you know the best way to leave the club with a lay? Go with your girlfriend lol.

[TypeNirvash]

If she doesn't respond, it's all good. You can follow up with;

I guess it didn't go well. It's a shame, because I wanted to hit that like [insert sexual innuendo here]

[VmissileX]

Reading, talking, or really thinking about "game" is the very epitome of anti-game. Even if you find someone using some bs then sooner or later they're gonna have to deal with the real you, so might as well go out and just be yourself. Be passionate, be confident, and be true to you. That means doing the things you love and not being ashamed of them or yourself. Always worked for me, but disregard if simply trying to get random hook ups. That doesn't really matter because either way she leaves the next morning.

100% agree.

I think this thread is just for the fun/jokes though.

Some are pretty funny. I just hope no detectives come by and people get hurt.

[DAaaMan64]

@DMan I read the article, it's actually pretty apropos of the discussion going on ITT right now. Enjoyed it.

yeah I know. I hope everyone reads it.