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    Can someone unbiased brief me on Donald Trump and there supporters?

    Did not vote for Clinton or Trump. Don't identify as Republican or Democrat. Wished Trump the best when he got elected.

    5 months in and all I hear about is how this guy has no clue whats going on, the inconsistencies with what he says and his close group says. I was not a big fan of Obama's healthcare because it skyrocketed my rates but Trump's bill just plain looks worse.

    So my question is why are people who voted for Trump still backing him up and also ignoring all of this while insulting people by calling them liberals or ''cuck''? Thats all I read when I scroll through youtube comments + this forum. Also, it seems to me our President is ridiculed on a routine basis by the news media to the point where people just laugh at him. Wtf? Idk about any other country but I wouldn't want my President seen as a joke. For the record I very much was in favor of his immigration stance and strong stance on migrants as well.

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    insulting people by calling them liberals
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    You support his immigration policies?? Do you know about the two laws that passed in the house yesterday?



    That's why his supporters still back him, because lots of people don't even realize the good things that are getting done. They're too busy watching fake news bash him.
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    insulting should've been in quotes. Apologies
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    Originally Posted by longfellowdeeds View Post

    Not a troll thread.
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    One thing you must realize is you are on a messenger board. I very seriously doubt people in this topic would debate in public by calling others cucks etc. etc. It's also become the nature of people as of lately. If you don't win, do what ever is possible to disrupt the status quo and slow things down as much as possible till the next election and hope, your team gets in. Another reason is because Trump is fighting back and being vocal. One day he's tweeting this, tweeting that and the next he's calling people out on fake news and such. Not acting "Presidential" yet, they wouldn't give him any respect or other wise if he was acting presidential. Then, they would call him weak and a buffoon. Which they already are.
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    He has done EXACTLY what he promised throughout his campaign.


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    Originally Posted by longfellowdeeds View Post
    Did not vote for Clinton or Trump. Don't identify as Republican or Democrat. Wished Trump the best when he got elected.

    5 months in and all I hear about is how this guy has no clue whats going on, the inconsistencies with what he says and his close group says. I was not a big fan of Obama's healthcare because it skyrocketed my rates but Trump's bill just plain looks worse.

    So my question is why are people who voted for Trump still backing him up and also ignoring all of this while insulting people by calling them liberals or ''cuck''? Thats all I read when I scroll through youtube comments + this forum. Also, it seems to me our President is ridiculed on a routine basis by the news media to the point where people just laugh at him. Wtf? Idk about any other country but I wouldn't want my President seen as a joke. For the record I very much was in favor of his immigration stance and strong stance on migrants as well.

    Not a troll thread.
    1) Regarding President Trump having "no clue what's going on" - President Trump is our first president who has never held elected office or served in the military, so he's dealing with a steep learning curve. He also made an enemy of most of the media in this country, and consequently they aren't giving him much breathing room during this time.

    2) Regarding his supporters calling his detractors liberals or cucks on internet comments - Most people in America just live their lives and look after their families and periodically vote in their local and national elections. A small fraction of those people who happen to support Donald Trump love calling his detractors "cucks." It's their new "*******." It's a new baseless pejorative. They might as well have revived Beavis & Butthead's "fartknocker." We all have to learn to live with it, sadly.

    3) Regarding his supporters ignoring his failures - you're on the wrong forum, for at least the time being, if you want to talk honestly about President Trump's successes or failures.
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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    1) Regarding President Trump having "no clue what's going on" - President Trump is our first president who has never held elected office or served in the military, so he's dealing with a steep learning curve. He also made an enemy of most of the media in this country, and consequently they aren't giving him much breathing room during this time.

    2) Regarding his supporters calling his detractors liberals or cucks on internet comments - Most people in America just live their lives and look after their families and periodically vote in their local and national elections. A small fraction of those people who happen to support Donald Trump love calling his detractors "cucks." It's their new "*******." It's a new baseless pejorative. They might as well have revived Beavis & Butthead's "fartknocker." We all have to learn to live with it, sadly.

    3) Regarding his supporters ignoring his failures - you're on the wrong forum, for at least the time being, if you want to talk honestly about President Trump's successes or failures.
    1.) look at the election last year....I'd say the media made an enemy out of Trump and not the other way around

    2.) it does get overused by it is a fitting slander for people who seem more than happy to let others take advantage of them

    3.) you're probably right, though there are decent discussions from time to time
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    People have been saying the same thing about Trump since it wasn't him vs 6 other republicans. How can you not have developed thickened skin from it yet?
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    1. Trump is ridiculed on a daily basis because libtards hate him and literally turn minor details into a full blown circus act, like the week long "Conveffe" BS. He made a typo, and yet this was the major news for a week straight

    2. trump hasnt held office before, so everytime a bill doesnt pass, "its because hes in over his head"

    3. as said above, the libtards took away "*******" as its "offensive" so the internet has countered with "cuck". Being a cuck is literally part of liberal ideology as conservatives believe in family values while liberals believe in "poly relationships" But yea most non miscing right wingers dont utter the word cuck in real convos. Its a message board thing
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    Trump has done what he said he would do. This enrages lefties. The media is pushing an outrageous anti-Trump agenda because they're part of the establishment.

    The leftist activist judges who blocked the travel ban were so wrong that the SCOTUS unanimously rebuffed them. Trump will likely appoint a 2nd Justice this summer.

    What reason would his supporters have to abandon him?
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    1. Trump is ridiculed on a daily basis because libtards hate him and literally turn minor details into a full blown circus act, like the week long "Conveffe" BS. He made a typo, and yet this was the major news for a week straight
    Then why couldn't he just admit that? Everyone does it. His arrogance wouldn't let him say it was just a mistake.
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    Then why couldn't he just admit that? Everyone does it. His arrogance wouldn't let him say it was just a mistake.
    He probably didn't openly grovel and apologize for a harmless mistake because he saw no need for it and instead trolled butthurt little babies with poopy diapers, like some people, instead.
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    somebody post the trump concern troll meme

    to answer OP it's that he does more good things by far than bad. Also he is keeping his promise of letting people get insured despite pre-existing condition. Any bill that does that sucks because it's impossible to do it successfully.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    He probably didn't openly grovel and apologize for a harmless mistake because he saw no need for it and instead trolled butthurt little babies with poopy diapers, like some people, instead.
    No one said he had to grovel. Just say he made a typo and move on
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    Then why couldn't he just admit that? Everyone does it. His arrogance wouldn't let him say it was just a mistake.
    why did CNN feel the need to run numerous "news stories" on the subject instead of reporting on real news?

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    I'd rather support an arrogant SOB like Trump than fall victim to propaganda disguised as news
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    Did not vote for Clinton or Trump. Don't identify as Republican or Democrat. Wished Trump the best when he got elected.

    5 months in and all I hear about is how this guy has no clue whats going on, the inconsistencies with what he says and his close group says. I was not a big fan of Obama's healthcare because it skyrocketed my rates but Trump's bill just plain looks worse.

    So my question is why are people who voted for Trump still backing him up and also ignoring all of this while insulting people by calling them liberals or ''cuck''? Thats all I read when I scroll through youtube comments + this forum. Also, it seems to me our President is ridiculed on a routine basis by the news media to the point where people just laugh at him. Wtf? Idk about any other country but I wouldn't want my President seen as a joke. For the record I very much was in favor of his immigration stance and strong stance on migrants as well.

    Not a troll thread.
    You've bought into the left wing media narrative of Trump. Those that support Trump look at things from a more practical standpoint, and we don't form our opinions based on what the left wing media wants us to think. And if your rates skyrocketed under Obamacare, you will be helped by the new healthcare bill. That's also part of the media narrative they try to ignore. They are focused on X number of people will be without healthcare. No chit, those people gained coverage off of the backs of middle class Americans paying significantly more. But its easier to get sympathy for a poorer person who will be without coverage than it will be to talk about huge rate jumps to middle class folks. So if Obamacare was doing great for you, you will not do as well under the new plan. Nearly everyone else will be better off.
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    Lold saying the president should just admit he made a mistake for a typo.


    "Before this state of the union I'd just like to first address what's on everyone's mind so we can get it out of the way and move forward. As I'm sure you all know, I made a typo this week. Convefe is not a real world and I should've double checked before I tweeted. I hope that as a country we can all move forward and put this behind us."
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    I wish Sarah Sanders was the press secretary all along. Sean Spicer made many things worse than they needed to be. He fell right into damn near every trap.
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    CNN reporting on that typo so hard while making up russian story BS was a clear indicator that they have no intentions of backing off hte fake news side of things.

    I support trump due to trade, immigration, and an apparent lack of giving a chit what you do in your personal life. I know pence is kind of a bastard when it comes to gay rights but there's no way trump cares. However on the climate side of things Trump is wrong but since we need fair trade agreements before we can reliably regulate our pollution without killing major industries or forcing them to move like what's been happening for the last half century.

    So those are my personal reasons for supporting trump. I don't agree with WHY he holds most positions, but I agree with the RESULT.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Lold saying the president should just admit he made a mistake for a typo.


    "Before this state of the union I'd just like to first address what's on everyone's mind so we can get it out of the way and move forward. As I'm sure you all know, I made a typo this week. Convefe is not a real world and I should've double checked before I tweeted. I hope that as a country we can all move forward and put this behind us."
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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    1) Regarding President Trump having "no clue what's going on" - President Trump is our first president who has never held elected office or served in the military, so he's dealing with a steep learning curve. He also made an enemy of most of the media in this country, and consequently they aren't giving him much breathing room during this time.
    Pretty sure you have that backwards bro.. The msm made him the enemy from the very beginning. Go back a year or more even to where they were all still campaigning and see for yourself. He didn't just wake up one morning and decide to make the media his enemy for his own amusement.
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    Then why couldn't he just admit that? Everyone does it. His arrogance wouldn't let him say it was just a mistake.
    The reason people like OP have this attitude towards trump are the people in charge of different medias.

    CNN is a shill company. They let idiotic stories get through and harp on them non stop.

    Then you go to a forum like misc and you got a guy like iceman. Same exact thing as CNN. Some of these guys in power give these idiots a soapbox and empower them.
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    No one said he had to grovel. Just say he made a typo and move on
    He tweeted after that in a light hearted manner about 'trying to find the meaning of covfefe'.

    No need for an explanation or long felt apology over an typo.
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    People are going to believe what they have always believed, follow the same news stations they always follow, and continue to ignore critical thinking.

    On both sides of the aisle.

    There is maybe a fraction of people who would listen to a well crafted argument from someone from the opposite party and potentially change their views. Everyone else is just preparing counter arguments as soon as they read anything, because they already believe they are 100% right.
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