Upright Rows vs Side laterals

[rich0331]

in regards to upright rows with dumbbells...

Originally posted by midian
the weight would bounce against your chest,

I do NOT agree one bit, I've done em with db's and had no problem, just don't go overboard with the poundage your using

[Kane Fan]

Originally posted by r6phantom
Because you can stimulate the medial head with more weight on upright rows, does it make it better? This is following the logic that bench presses are better than flies, squat is better than leg extension, etc...

If you read my other post i am using bench, deadlift, squat, bbrow and chins in my hst routine. My delts are lagging and dont know which exercise i should focus on. And yes i know upright rows puts my rotator cuff in a vulerable position.

it dosn't exactly follow that logic
the Medial heads arn't the prime movers on uprights (lest I don't think so)
it's arguable that pecs arn't on flat bench, but they do some work so it might be comparable there, but I personally think Flys over Uprights
and I voted thusly

[P.O.S.]

I remember reading about an exercise that is good for the rotator cuff, makes it stronger and more flexible.

If I find it again, I'll post a link.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness22.htm


If I did said exercise, and maybe a rotator cuff stretch ??? along with it, would that make upright rows safer?

[RiNgMaSteR]

Up right rows cause shoulder impingement and = bad in the long run. Plenty of other good exercises to work the shoulders.

[A.M.]

It seems to me that if your upper arm is doing exactly the same movement as it would in a side lateral then there can't be any problems. Obviously this isn't the case with barbell upright rows, but dumbell one's can be done with the hands in several different positions, so I think you could do them with the upper arm performing the same movement.

[champs]

executed properly there is no problem with upright rows and the primary mover is infact the medial delt.

To avoid impingement/shoulder problems

Grasp bar at shoulder width or slightly wider
Lean (a tiny bit) forward slightly at waist
Pull directly up keeping the bar as close to your body as possible
Stop when your upper arms are in line with your shoulders (important! use a mirror, for most people this will be when the bar is in line with lower-middle chest)

Lower slowly, repeat

There is no need to go higher, the majority of the work done once you pass parrallel is done by the traps (plus the issues with rotator cuff strain/impingement arise during this part of the rom)

Essentially your delts are moving through the same range of motion as with a lateral but it's a compound exercise and will hopefully allow you more leeway when it comes to progressive weight increments. Probably the best compound exercise for hitting the medial delt head.

[Limbo]

Hang cleans.

They're like upright rows except without the shoulder worries.

[champs]

Hang cleans are decent, but they are too non specific delt-wise. Not to mention alot of the work is done by leg/hip extension.

[DUILEE]

Does anybody else find it funny that every couple of months atleast one movement or exercise all of the sudden become dangerous. Squats, Bench press, upright rows, behind the neck push/pulls, leg press, etc. The funniest thing is a year later they magically become good for you again. Quit doing squats, quit doing bench press, quit doing military press, quit doing upright rows. Quit being such pussies, go to ballet if lifting is too dangerous for you.

[champs]

Why not have the best of both worlds? Go to the ballet AND lift.

[UnderWare1213]

Can anyone explain to me what a "Cuban press" is?

[ryan12192]

What about bent over bb rows? they work your lats? can someone give me a list of exersises which work your back please, specialy lats.
thankyou

[_Lifter4Life_]

to the nipple nevel, done slowely and controlled it can be a great excerise.

Lifter,

[scott_donald]

dont bump ancient threads...