Some guys have thrown around an estimated time to your first reset based on starting weight but I would just listen to your body. Follow the reset protocol and you wont go far wrong. Resets are critical at the novice stage.
If after working back from the reset you fail at the same stage you can look at it again and see if you need to adjust your working weights.
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05-23-2017, 11:43 AM #5131
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05-23-2017, 01:22 PM #5132
Other then following the protocol of the program.
My thing is if I can't complete the reps of a compound. I try again the next workout day. IF I still can't then I do a reset. You gettin 75kg for 4 reps is not bad. Perhaps you're having a off day. Try again for 3x5. If you can't then do a reset.USN Vet, Student, Loser.
Goals
12-15% BF -Goal met 5/26/2017 at around 10-13%
1000LB Club - Goal met 11/9/2017. S/B/D 405lb/305lb/425lb 1135 total
Look like I lift.
Me logging my pathetic lifts. - https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=174152951&p=1506677001#post1506677001
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05-23-2017, 01:44 PM #5133
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05-23-2017, 02:43 PM #5134
I am doing novice program 14 months ago till now
my lifts is
squat: 140 kg 3*5
DL: 145 kg 3*5
Bench: 77.5 kg 2*5 , 1*3
OHP: 57.5 kg 2*5 . 1*2
Recently my workout became very long , resting more between sets especially between squat and DL , and after 3 sets squat and 1 sets bench i totally lost my energy
Do you recommend move to intermediate program or keep going in novice
•if i take a 4 or 5 days off as a deload what weight should i start from again (increase weight on my last successful set or reduce it)
•Great transformation bro (Y)My fierce 5 novice workout log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=170485401&p=1423251091#post1423251091
too skinny to cut,,too fat to bulk
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05-23-2017, 03:49 PM #5135
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05-23-2017, 05:19 PM #5136
Hi guys,
Please critique the list that I've created from Fierce5 Intermediate/Advanced. I'm switching from 5-day split to Fierce5, before I was working out in the gym for maximum 2 hours so I'm not really sure if my body will going to progress in my new routine as my body got used to high volume. Thank you!
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05-23-2017, 05:50 PM #5137
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05-23-2017, 06:47 PM #5138
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05-23-2017, 07:07 PM #5139
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05-23-2017, 07:31 PM #5140
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Divebombing the reps a little, and loosing the groove in the hole and in the way up. Slow the decent tempo, stay in the groove and make sure the knees don't come back too soon as that kills quad drive.
I did notice a little twisting or hip shift I think on reps 4 and 5
*could be wrong, it could be the angle*.
It could be fatigue, could be a bracing issue.. Im leaning towards the bracing as there is some 'fidgeting' between reps.
2"~ high.
May need to open your knees to make more room to get between your hips.FMH crew - Couch.
'pick a program from the stickies' = biggest cop out post.
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05-23-2017, 11:07 PM #5141
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Just due to the physics of it, cable flies have a more even force curve. Dumbbell flies get easier towards the top of the movement because the motion path gets more and more horizontal. That's probably what you noticed, that you still get much more resistance with cable flies even when your hands are already close together. You can actually go for a larger range of motion with cable flies, where you cross over. With dumbbell flies, you stop when the arms are vertical, or even a little earlier, since resistance is basically zero at that point.
So theoretically, I would argue that cable flies are a superior exercise. Personally... I actually prefer dumbbell flies. I don't have a very rational reason, they just feel better to me.
I think it's one of those things that is not worth obsessing over. Do what feels better to you. Or switch it up every once in a while. While consistency is generally important, I don't see any harm in changing an accessory on occasion, particularly if they're so similar.
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05-24-2017, 02:41 AM #5142
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05-24-2017, 04:23 AM #5143
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05-24-2017, 05:03 AM #5144
Finally broke 200 on my squat.
After the worse training session yesterday since I started where I did not even attempt a squat.
I was going to get the dumbbells out, but decided I felt pretty good, so I setup for the squat.
195 x 5
195 x 6
210 x 4.
Important benchmark for me.
now just have to bench press 150 and I am a happy guy.
Kept going and broke all sorts of benchmarks. I am superman today.
bench
150 x 6
150 x 6
Close grip bench
120 x 6
120 x 6Last edited by rlefebvr; 05-24-2017 at 05:28 AM.
Ron
Current: Height:5'9 Weight: 169 lbs - Height:5'9 - BF:16%
Goal:___Height:5'9 Weight: 170 lbs - Height:5'9 - BF:16%
Dream:_Height:5'9 Weight: 180 lbs - Height:5'9 - BF:14%
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05-24-2017, 06:07 AM #5145
In the beginner dumbell routine is there any kind of acceptable substitution or modification to increase the difficulty of walking lunges? I currently do walking Lunges with the heaviest dumbells I have access to. I do have a barbell, but no rack to do barbell Squats (hence why I'm doing the dumbell program)
My fat loss log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173571151
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05-24-2017, 06:12 AM #5146
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05-24-2017, 06:26 AM #5147
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05-24-2017, 06:41 AM #5148
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Don't know of any full video's of what I described but this is close enough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfmuCo4paZI5 day full body crew
FMH Crew, Sandbagging Mike Tuscherer Wannabee
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05-24-2017, 08:35 AM #5149
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05-24-2017, 01:48 PM #5151
I recently subbed lats pulldown for chin ups but I'm having a hard time hitting all the reps in just three sets, so I'm wondering if it's ok to just set a rep goal for the whole workout and then progress from there. For example, let's say I want to hit 30 reps but instead of doing 3x10, I do 1x10, 1x8, 1x7 and the 1x5.
I do plan to eventually switch back to a 3 set scheme once I get better at them.
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05-24-2017, 01:54 PM #5152
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05-24-2017, 02:20 PM #5153
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05-24-2017, 03:04 PM #5154
Also, I've been running the Upper/Lower but recently have discovered that I love doing deadlifts. Would these fit better into the L/U LPP than the Upper/Lower? Even if the L/U LPP is more work than the U/L, would there be any negatives to the extra work? My lifts are around the intermediate benchmark ATM.
Thanks
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05-25-2017, 08:38 AM #5155
For the U/L
under the FAQ you state "I'm doing the Upper/Lower routine, but I really want to do DL. What should I do? First you want to remove front squat and RDL from Lower B. Sub in DL 3x5 and lunges 3x8. Now put a rest day on both sides of your Lower B. Like this-
Monday-Upper A
Tuesday-Lower A
Wednesday-Rest
Thursday-Upper B
Friday-Rest
Saturday-Lower B (with DL and lunges)
Sunday-Rest
Repeat
Why the skip of a day if you want to incorporate Deads? Would Wednesday Rest + Upper on THursday be long enough rest period from lower on Tuesday to Friday? Even if its Deads?
"USN Vet, Student, Loser.
Goals
12-15% BF -Goal met 5/26/2017 at around 10-13%
1000LB Club - Goal met 11/9/2017. S/B/D 405lb/305lb/425lb 1135 total
Look like I lift.
Me logging my pathetic lifts. - https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=174152951&p=1506677001#post1506677001
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05-25-2017, 08:45 AM #5156
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05-25-2017, 06:52 PM #5157
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05-26-2017, 01:06 AM #5158
Hi all,
I would like to switch from the beginner full body dumbbell program to the upper lower intermediate program.
I've been doing the beginner one for a couple of months, 4/5 times per week (little rest time, yes, but I'm feeling ok).
Can I do the intermediate split body program with the material I have: dumbbells, barbells, inclinable bench with bar support (no power rack for squat, but I have the leg curl machine). The material I have is listed in my other thread called:
"Help defining a program with home-gym (pics of material and myself)"
I cannot post links yet
Ciao,
Michele
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05-26-2017, 10:33 AM #5159
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It's tough. Glute ham raises and reverse hypers are pretty good as well, but they are only found in the best gyms.
I can't even begin to critique after ego. He frequently sees more than I do. lol
Nice job brother! It will be 225 before you know it.
Rather similar. I'm a fan of his program, particularly if you add face pulls to it.
It could work for a bit.
Could work for a short while, but it sounds more like you need to reduce weight.
Glad it's going well man. Good luck.
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05-26-2017, 11:01 AM #5160
Ok Davis, I've been wondering since I recently found out how much I love doing regular deadlifts again. I feel like they fit better in the LU/LPP since you don't have to really take a day between the Upper and Lower like on the U/L. I realize that I would be lifting more days than on the U/L, but is there really any negatives to this? Could an intermediate lifter run this with as good of results as the U/L even though it is catagorized as " intermediate/advanced?"
Thanks so much man
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