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    Originally Posted by cls91 View Post

    Also form usually starts breaking down as you get heavier, so going lighter just to show form doesn't really make sense.

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    Hey Cls, thanks for your feedback. I willl def keep that in mind I actually got "hurt" from deadlifting with hex plates when it rolled too far away from me while doing my set. it sure wasn't prettty. I will record a heavy set of deadlifts 2morow for better judgment on form. Thank you so much
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    Yoku, stop the video a second before the video ends. See the position your hips and back are in when the bar touches the ground? That's the position you should start in. Hips about 3 inches lower and shoulders a little further back than you are right now. There's no reason ever that your hips should be higher than your shoulders when you pull. Same height, maybe, but definitely not higher.
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    i'm so glad i've never ever had to DL with hex plates

    some people even go so far as to completely reset between reps (like hands off the bar) as a cue of sorts, like so http://instagram.com/p/vtomoxJxrI/?modal=true.

    you might find that helpful? esp if the hex-yness of the plates are causing probs
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    Originally Posted by Tairyokuu View Post
    Hey guys so i'm posting my dead lift video here because i wanted a form check from you guys. I have been having issues with my deadlift. It is the only lift that troubles me the most. Note* I usually can pull 175. I am just going light in this video to show you my form. I also know that i'm doing tap and go. Please let me know what you think. Also a year ago i was able to hit 225 for a PR., but I ended up eventually hurting myself from terrible form
    While I can't say much about your technique with this weight, I'd say you need to fix your head position before moving forward. Try to maintain a neutral spine by looking at a spot on the floor about 2 or 3 feet in front of you.
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    i've been on reddit far too long today:
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    Nutmisc is strong!

    First vid here is my 1RM attempt for 225 bench taken last friday, last max I attempted was 175x5 back in august. Went from an estimated 197 1RM to 225 in 3 months.

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    Originally Posted by jshookz View Post
    Nutmisc is strong!

    First vid here is my 1RM attempt for 225 bench taken last friday, last max I attempted was 175x5 back in august. Went from an estimated 197 1RM to 225 in 3 months.

    Dude you should have cut the second rep out. It would have been more "glorifying". GJDM
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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post
    Yaay
    why PLing style? i thought you were our resident BB'er!
    Pretty much just to do it, but also for any potential of me competing in PL in the future, I'd like to ensure I'm doing the lift properly.

    Not saying I'll compete anytime soon, or even ever, but I figure it can't hurt to at least start working on getting the form down so if the day comes I decide to do so, I'll be ready and not look like a jackass at competition.
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    250x4 on squats yesterday. Really wanted to get 5 on this. Bar just felt heavy yesterday, even on warm-ups. Back took a long time to warm up and right knee has been given me some issues (started while running a few weeks ago and might finally be bleeding into lifting stuff ).



    Originally Posted by jshookz View Post
    Nutmisc is strong!

    First vid here is my 1RM attempt for 225 bench taken last friday, last max I attempted was 175x5 back in august. Went from an estimated 197 1RM to 225 in 3 months.

    [youtube]xKYdTF6aKBI[/ youtube]
    Awesome!

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    Pretty much just to do it, but also for any potential of me competing in PL in the future, I'd like to ensure I'm doing the lift properly.

    Not saying I'll compete anytime soon, or even ever, but I figure it can't hurt to at least start working on getting the form down so if the day comes I decide to do so, I'll be ready and not look like a jackass at competition.
    Yup, can't hurt!

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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post

    Gj on the lifts. Everything looked easy af haha
    Eh.

    Kind of an off week and felt weaker than normal.
    I'm chalking it up to a deload/4 days off from the gym last week and copious amounts of carbs from Thanksgiving feasts with the family :P



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    Man jealous of all the people squatting 250 ITT

    Been stuck at 225x5 for a while now. Can get one set but usually only 4 on 2rd/3nd set, if that.

    Solid 5lb a week on squat gains until I cut, got skinny now I'm stuck at 225 lol. Suggestions? Should I drop to 200 or so and go for higher reps for a few weeks and then go back and see?

    Same with my bench, everything's kinda sticking ATM. I hit 250x5 on bench the first week of my cut but haven't been able to get past 245x5 once since then (now back to bulking). I've been hitting 235/240x5 for 3 sets okay but the second I put that extra 5lbs on goodnight sweet 5th rep.
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    Originally Posted by StrikingMoose View Post
    Man jealous of all the people squatting 250 ITT

    Been stuck at 225x5 for a while now. Can get one set but usually only 4 on 2rd/3nd set, if that.

    Solid 5lb a week on squat gains until I cut, got skinny now I'm stuck at 225 lol. Suggestions? Should I drop to 200 or so and go for higher reps for a few weeks and then go back and see?

    Same with my bench, everything's kinda sticking ATM. I hit 250x5 on bench the first week of my cut but haven't been able to get past 245x5 once since then (now back to bulking). I've been hitting 235/240x5 for 3 sets okay but the second I put that extra 5lbs on goodnight sweet 5th rep.
    How many times a week are you squatting and benching?
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    I do PPL. Depends on work schedule, usually 2x each sometimes it's delayed by a day or two but more often than not 2x a week.

    Not worried about my bench tbh, just squat lol.

    I wonder if it's cause it's taking so long to figure out good bulking diet. Keep going up and up calories and weight staying the same




    Edit.

    Doing legs now. apparently all I needed was to change a couple things. Got rid of headphones (they're broken lol) and took a preworkout. 2 plates going up easy enough.

    Maybe asking for help was all the motivation I needed.

    Dat post leg workout uncontrollable shaking.
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    Here are some footage of me deadlifting a little heavier. I recorded 1 heavy set and another set where I fail. I hope I improved my form a little bit?What do you guys think? I appreciate the feedback from everyone!
    This is 165, which is considered heavy to me...

    This is a set where I fail doing 175...

    And my fun exercise!!This is 115. Bench is never a problem for me why does deadlift have to be?


    Originally Posted by unstrong View Post
    Yoku, stop the video a second before the video ends. See the position your hips and back are in when the bar touches the ground? That's the position you should start in. Hips about 3 inches lower and shoulders a little further back than you are right now. There's no reason ever that your hips should be higher than your shoulders when you pull. Same height, maybe, but definitely not higher.
    Unstrong...GOOD CATCH! Thank you so much for pointing this out. I seriously did not realize this

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    i'm so glad i've never ever had to DL with hex plates

    some people even go so far as to completely reset between reps (like hands off the bar) as a cue of sorts, like so http://instagram.com/p/vtomoxJxrI/?modal=true.

    you might find that helpful? esp if the hex-yness of the plates are causing probs
    Hey Illini, thanks for commenting! I appreciate the vid link alot Maybe I should try resetting between reps..because the bar always gets lop sided Hex Plates are super annoying to deal with Thank you

    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    While I can't say much about your technique with this weight, I'd say you need to fix your head position before moving forward. Try to maintain a neutral spine by looking at a spot on the floor about 2 or 3 feet in front of you.
    Thank You Erick for your advice! You are right about the head positioning, it did make a big difference for me, but I just need to get used to it now. I just feel having the tendency to stress my neck up for some reason. Hopefully you can notice more things awkward about my deadlift that I can fix from the heavier set I just recorded.
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    Dude you should have cut the second rep out. It would have been more "glorifying". GJDM
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    On the 175 you let the bar roll away from you before starting the pull, bring it into your shins it also looks like you are trying to contol the weight not pull it
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    On the 175 you let the bar roll away from you before starting the pull, bring it into your shins it also looks like you are trying to contol the weight not pull it
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    Ahhhhh okay. Took a video of me benching for the first time ever. Will post it later. 5th set of my short break higher rep workout i was trying out, failed at 6th rep of 225 lol. Strong 20lb strength loss by fifth set heh
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    Originally Posted by StrikingMoose View Post
    Man jealous of all the people squatting 250 ITT

    Been stuck at 225x5 for a while now. Can get one set but usually only 4 on 2rd/3nd set, if that.
    Do you follow an actual program or just kind of wing it?


    If you aren't following some sort of PROVEN outline, I'd start.
    Until you've established yourself in the basics of programming & progression, you're likely only screwing yourself out of development by following a self-made outline.


    I know...after I ran through ICF's 5x5 for the first part of my bulk, I sort of half-assed outlines from that point.
    Which, I thought I was making decent progression on..but now that I'm following a real program and look back on the dumb chit I did for the past 8 months or so...I realize what an idiot I was.
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    Originally Posted by InItForFitness View Post
    Do you follow an actual program or just kind of wing it?


    If you aren't following some sort of PROVEN outline, I'd start.
    Until you've established yourself in the basics of programming & progression, you're likely only screwing yourself out of development by following a self-made outline.


    I know...after I ran through ICF's 5x5 for the first part of my bulk, I sort of half-assed outlines from that point.
    Which, I thought I was making decent progression on..but now that I'm following a real program and look back on the dumb chit I did for the past 8 months or so...I realize what an idiot I was.
    I'm doing a PPL I found on here with regular progressive overload . Coolcicada's PPL easy enough to search for it I'd copy paste but am on mobile. I'm almost back to pre cut strength. Post cut most of my lifts were down 10lb or worse depending on the day.

    Only reason I did something funky today was on Wednesday night I went to gym with my best friend who does bro split. He begged me to do arms and since it was my scheduled day off I said sure what bad could it do.

    Anyways, last night triceps started having massive doms same with this AM so I decided to just do lighter weight higher rep today. I could definitely feel my arms struggling on my flat bench today. Eh, I had fun with my BFF I hadn't seen in weeks that's all that matters.
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    Figured it out on mobile. Anyways here it is.

    Sets 1-4 225x8 last rep always felt heavy. I was determined to get at least 6 on last set I could tell I was bagged though. Enough struggle to have my form break down (if it was going to)on this set though so just looking for pointers.




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    Originally Posted by StrikingMoose View Post
    I'm doing a PPL I found on here with regular progressive overload . Coolcicada's PPL easy enough to search for it I'd copy paste but am on mobile. I'm almost back to pre cut strength. Post cut most of my lifts were down 10lb or worse depending on the day.
    Gotcha. Was just curious as I wasn't really aware if you were running any sort of programming. Just saw you were struggling with progression.
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    Originally Posted by InItForFitness View Post
    Gotcha. Was just curious as I wasn't really aware if you were running any sort of programming. Just saw you were struggling with progression.
    Thanks for the concern regardless. I think the major limiting factor is the fact I'm having problems getting my appetite to the point I can eat 3600 calories again. Hard to make gains within the fuel nomsayin
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    Originally Posted by StrikingMoose View Post
    Figured it out on mobile. Anyways here it is.

    Sets 1-4 225x8 last rep always felt heavy. I was determined to get at least 6 on last set I could tell I was bagged though. Enough struggle to have my form break down (if it was going to)on this set though so just looking for pointers.




    Not sure if embedded right can't check cause on phone.

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    Form looks pretty good, other than the fact that you could get tighter, which is indicated by your legs moving around in the middle of your set. Hard for me to really say how you can get tighter though since you're in a pretty good position overall lol. Hopefully someone else can comment.

    I looked up coolcicasa's ppl and I don't really see a progression scheme. Just see: "do this exercise for this many sets and this many reps." I'd say you should get on a legit program for your bench (and squats too while we're at it). The difference between a program and a routine is that a program actually has a plan for progression, and plans for what to do when you stall. Even if you want to continue doing PPL, its very easy to apply the progression scheme of a good program to it.
    Since you bench twice a week already anyway:
    Texas Method your bench
    Madcows your bench
    531 on first bench day, 3x5 or 5x5 or 4x8 or 6x3 on the second day

    Even if your really determined to drive your primary progress in that 6-8 rep range, you can still train for neural adaptations by working in a lower rep range (like 2-3 reps) on one day, and then working in the higher ranges on another.
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    Originally Posted by themonkay View Post
    Form looks pretty good, other than the fact that you could get tighter, which is indicated by your legs moving around in the middle of your set. Hard for me to really say how you can get tighter though since you're in a pretty good position overall lol. Hopefully someone else can comment.

    I looked up coolcicasa's ppl and I don't really see a progression scheme. Just see: "do this exercise for this many sets and this many reps." I'd say you should get on a legit program for your bench (and squats too while we're at it). The difference between a program and a routine is that a program actually has a plan for progression, and plans for what to do when you stall. Even if you want to continue doing PPL, its very easy to apply the progression scheme of a good program to it.
    Since you bench twice a week already anyway:
    Texas Method your bench
    Madcows your bench
    531 on first bench day, 3x5 or 5x5 or 4x8 or 6x3 on the second day

    Even if your really determined to drive your primary progress in that 6-8 rep range, you can still train for neural adaptations by working in a lower rep range (like 2-3 reps) on one day, and then working in the higher ranges on another.
    Thanks for the recommendations I'll check em out.

    There's been some suggestions for progression if you go through the whole thread, there's no reason to for you guys, but the one that I go with is that after I move up to a new weight and am able to hit the rep range for all 3 sets, two workouts in a row, then I move up in weight for the next workout. It worked well for me during my whole last bulk, made great gains but it definitely did start to slow near the end of it. I was looking for another routine that would work with my working schedule (2 days off then a stretch of 4-6 days where I can go to the gym, repeat) but none of them fit as well as PPL.

    WIll check out your suggestions and try to keep my legs from wiggling as I struggle for my life next time heh.
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