Proof that the Nutmisc Lifts! (kinda)

[InItForFitness]

I don't really lift, but here are a couple weak attempts.

225 x 4 Incline Barbell Bench.


105 x 3 Dumbbell Bench.

[ErikTheElectric]

Found some old footage of my previous dip "attempts" (The top one was at the peak of my bulk in july). Of course, the bottom one was the most recent (a few days ago). Feel like I've made some progress since the first video.. but for some reason I feel like I work more of my chest than my triceps. anyone do paused dips?

[illiniStrive]

Wouldn't paused dips place emphasis on the chest even more?

Keeping your body more upright puts more emphasis on the tris (I think...), also finishing it out on the top would help, too.

[InItForFitness]

Wouldn't paused dips place emphasis on the chest even more?

Keeping your body more upright puts more emphasis on the tris (I think...)

Personal experience, I find both of these to be true.

If I'm shooting to emphasize the tris I keep a really upright/straight posture with my back during the movement and basically get in & get out of the hole.


For chest emphasis I'll do sort of a leaning forward style where my upper body will basically be parallel to the floor.

[cls91]

Wouldn't paused dips place emphasis on the chest even more?

Keeping your body more upright puts more emphasis on the tris (I think...), also finishing it out on the top would help, too.

Personal experience, I find both of these to be true.

If I'm shooting to emphasize the tris I keep a really upright/straight posture with my back during the movement and basically get in & get out of the hole.


For chest emphasis I'll do sort of a leaning forward style where my upper body will basically be parallel to the floor.

Maybe this is coming across as obvious, but..

Upright is essentially pushing straight down (same motion as a tricep pushdown), so tri > chest

And as you lean forward, you're starting to push more away from you opposed to just straight down; so more (incline) bench related motion... if you think of the extreme, where you're parallel to the floor, it's basically a pushup

Obviously the grip width and other factors will come into play, but that's how I've always seen the difference between upright and bent forward dips


I never do paused dips, but I always end my push workout with dips at a (guesstimated) 20-30 degree angle

[ErikTheElectric]

Thanks for the 0.02$ everyone.


Going to do them differently and see how they feel.

[themonkay]

cant do dips without my shoulders crying

[cls91]

cant do dips without my shoulders crying

Because of thread talk I tried pause dips for the first time yesterday... usually triceps are first to give out, but this time it was definitely shoulders.

Could be attributed to the rest of my push day since I do dips at the end, but thought I'd post it anyways.

[DAaaMan64]

cant do dips without my shoulders crying

Blaha has talked about persons whom should just not ever do dips. Are you one of dems?

[themonkay]

Voldemort has talked about persons whom should just not ever do dips. Are you one of dems?

ftfy

probably. Even going past 90 gets my elbows uncomfortable and makes my shoulders feel like they are ripping apart

[psychodiver9]

Blaha has talked about persons whom should just not ever do dips. Are you one of dems?

Please stop referencing that mentally Ill ****er k thanks

[unstrong]

Hit 275x3x5 and 315x2x1 squats today (originally intended to only do one single but the first one was maybe a little high). First time squatting three plates, and probably had another 10-15 pounds or so in me. Will try to get a video up tomorrow.

Please stop referencing that mentally Ill ****er k thanks

Knew it was only a matter of time before you posted something to this effect hahaha

[cls91]

Hit 275x3x5 and 315x2x1 squats today (originally intended to only do one single but the first one was maybe a little high). First time squatting three plates, and probably had another 10-15 pounds or so in me. Will try to get a video up tomorrow.


Knew it was only a matter of time before you posted something to this effect hahaha

Congrats man, gj... will rep if I ever get off spread lol

I hit 210x5 today, which for me is a PR... about 1.5x BW... felt great. I'll be at 3 plates in a year or two

[DAaaMan64]

Hit 275x3x5 and 315x2x1 squats today (originally intended to only do one single but the first one was maybe a little high). First time squatting three plates, and probably had another 10-15 pounds or so in me. Will try to get a video up tomorrow.

damn dude. Your squat has really shot up. Great job. Very inspiring.

Please stop referencing that mentally Ill ****er k thanks

I'm afraid to even ask for the history on this. haha

[psychodiver9]

damn dude. Your squat has really shot up. Great job. Very inspiring.



I'm afraid to even ask for the history on this. haha

He's sick have you everwatched the **** he puts out? Oh and threatening layne

[ErikTheElectric]

Did some dips differently today (not leaning forward) definitely felt a difference.



Was very happy to get 90s on the flat bench today, after ~ 25lbs gone from the cut. Hopefully will be making my way back to gaining strength again..

[WMLifting]

Good pressing Erik. Are you done with your cut now?

[PerpetualMotion]

I keep my thumbs about 6" apart, so I'd say closer than shoulder width... and I'm putting up 5 reps of the same weight that I normal bench for 10 reps... seems like a pretty narrow gap to me, I would expect close grip to be much lower.

My OHP is still weak as sh* though... shoulder strength in general is just decent. I think my close grip is only strong because of my tri's

Close grip should normally be the width of your acromion process. For me, that puts my index finger on the smooth portion of the bar right outside of the knurling.

Definitely capable of hook and can do it for singles, but I'd prefer to train grip strength unless I'd otherwise fail the lift.

Plus rep work sucks with a hook grip.

But you do train your DL with an over/under (or hook) still, rah?

[DAaaMan64]

Was very happy to get 90s on the flat bench today, after ~ 25lbs gone from the cut. Hopefully will be making my way back to gaining strength again..

Good job. Strength will be back real fast. I think with the extra calories for recovery you'll find your mental game will push you the extra mile too.

[unstrong]

Close grip should normally be the width of your acromion process. For me, that puts my index finger on the smooth portion of the bar right outside of the knurling.



But you do train your DL with an over/under (or hook) still, rah?

I do my DL training almost 100% double overhand unless I feel I won't be able to hold the weight. If I won't, then I'll do a mixed grip for rep work and a hook grip for singles.

[ErikTheElectric]

Good pressing Erik. Are you done with your cut now?

Still in a deficit, working my way up to maintenance at the moment. Thanks Billy.

Good job. Strength will be back real fast. I think with the extra calories for recovery you'll find your mental game will push you the extra mile too.

Thanks. Hopefully!

[lee__d]

At this point, mixed gripping feels so awkward to me. I'm curious to see how my hook grip holds up once I get into big boy weight territory.

[themonkay]

I use straps and have literally never had a grip issue when going for a max single, double, or even triple, when not using straps. Then again, a lot of the other stuff i do trains my grip pretty well.

[cls91]

Close grip should normally be the width of your acromion process. For me, that puts my index finger on the smooth portion of the bar right outside of the knurling.

Thanks. I realized that my normal bench grip was way too wide and my close bench grip was way too narrow... once I fixed that, I finally started progressing after a long plateau.

[DAaaMan64]

I use straps and have literally never had a grip issue when going for a max single, double, or even triple, when not using straps. Then again, a lot of the other stuff i do trains my grip pretty well.

Chalked on these attempts?

Also, why do you use straps? Comfort? Less damage to hands?

I could see it for the latter, I don't think the ladies like it much. ha

[PerpetualMotion]

I do my DL training almost 100% double overhand unless I feel I won't be able to hold the weight. If I won't, then I'll do a mixed grip for rep work and a hook grip for singles.

Except I feel like that's a sure fire way to hamper DL progress. Double overhand will always be weaker than a mixed/hook grip. Just seems strange to me to DL for the sake of grip performance when training grip independently will be way better for your grip. Strongmen use straps all the time yet they have some of the best grip around (most likely because of Farmer's Walk). Just my two pence.

[themonkay]

Except I feel like that's a sure fire way to hamper DL progress. Double overhand will always be weaker than a mixed/hook grip. Just seems strange to me to DL for the sake of grip performance when training grip independently will be way better for your grip. Strongmen use straps all the time yet they have some of the best grip around (most likely because of Farmer's Walk). Just my two pence.

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Chalked on these attempts?

Also, why do you use straps? Comfort? Less damage to hands?

I could see it for the latter, I don't think the ladies like it much. ha

Yup used chalk when I pulled 465 months ago at the peak of my Fulk. I've done 435x3 with chalk as well.
I use straps because I'd rather not miss out on potential hypertrophy and/or strength gains from my deadlift strength simply because of a grip issue.
I also find it really easy to transition from using straps, to doing over/under using chalk. Honestly, I switch off between both a lot lol.

[unstrong]

Except I feel like that's a sure fire way to hamper DL progress. Double overhand will always be weaker than a mixed/hook grip. Just seems strange to me to DL for the sake of grip performance when training grip independently will be way better for your grip. Strongmen use straps all the time yet they have some of the best grip around (most likely because of Farmer's Walk). Just my two pence.

My grip hasn't failed yet, though I'm sure that's because of technique issues holding back my DL numbers lately (my gym maxes for both lifts are 315 for squats and 335 for deads, though both left a good amount in the tank as they were fairly quick and and done after 3x5s at roughly 87-90% of those numbers, and the DL was DOH and beltless). I'm sure as I get this better technique down and my deads move closer to a typical ratio with the squat I'll be a lot closer to failure on my grip and will have to make harder choices on how to proceed with rep work.

[ErikTheElectric]

Chalked on these attempts?

Also, why do you use straps? Comfort? Less damage to hands?

I could see it for the latter, I don't think the ladies like it much. ha

Chalk > All.


Realized that my versa grips weren't doing anything for me.

[lee__d]

My grip hasn't failed yet, though I'm sure that's because of technique issues holding back my DL numbers lately (my gym maxes for both lifts are 315 for squats and 335 for deads, though both left a good amount in the tank as they were fairly quick and and done after 3x5s at roughly 87-90% of those numbers, and the DL was DOH and beltless). I'm sure as I get this better technique down and my deads move closer to a typical ratio with the squat I'll be a lot closer to failure on my grip and will have to make harder choices on how to proceed with rep work.

My best squat is better than my best dl currently, lol, so annoying.