Colorado Baker forced to make gay wedding cakes, undergo sensitivity training...

[Reer43]

...after losing lawsuit.

A family owned bakery has been ordered to make wedding cakes for gay couples and guarantee that its staff be given comprehensive training on Colorado�s anti-discrimination laws after the state�s Civil Rights Commission determined the Christian baker violated the law by refusing to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex couple.

Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop, in Lakewood, Colorado was directed to change his store policies immediately and force his staff to attend the training sessions. For the next two years, Phillips will also be required to submit quarterly reports to the commission to confirm that he has not turned away customers based on their sexual orientation

Think of it as reverse conversion therapy (or straight man�s rehab) so that the state can mandate diversity through conformity.

The plight of Jack Phillips and his family is something I write about in my new book, �God Less America.� His story of religious persecution is one of many that I document.

Nicolle Martin, an attorney with Alliance Defending Freedom, called the ruling Orwellian and said they are considering an appeal.

�They are turning people of faith into religious refugees,� Martin told me. �Is this the society that we want to live in � where people of faith are driven out of business?�

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...raining-after/

[tk217]

So much emotion.

[Mulyark]

At the end of the day it's just a stupid cake.

[tsbalr120]

Should be unconstitutional

[squanto]

Yes, I do want to live in a country where people are denied the right to discriminate against others based on how they were born

Now make me a goddamn cake sweetheart

[Clamz]

ridiculous. There has to be some violation of their rights here regarding religious freedom. I'm sure they would turn down a satanist cake as well because of their beliefs. Dumb ass courts can't discern between religious beliefs and discrimination.

[flairon]

If i were the baker, i'd go to jail first.

[Streetbull]

Big Brother 1, Individual Freedom 0.

[Clamz]

If i were the baker, i'd go to jail first.

he actually has refused though he stopped making cakes and his business is booming on other sales. He should have a catalog of cake options that only have traditional designs (man/woman) and allow no customization. Can't force a baker to make something that's not on the menu/list

[IPoopStandingUp]

Dont think they should be forced to bake the cakes or go to the stupid sensitivity training (wtf is that)

But also dont understand the resistance to make the cake in the first place. The homos just want you to bake for them not oil up their bung holes.

[flairon]

Dont think they should be forced to bake the cakes or go to the stupid sensitivity training (wtf is that)

But also dont understand the resistance to make the cake in the first place. The homos just want you to bake for them not oil up their bung holes.

its that tiny little religious faith thing

[Fiyero]

ridiculous. There has to be some violation of their rights here regarding religious freedom. I'm sure they would turn down a satanist cake as well because of their beliefs. Dumb ass courts can't discern between religious beliefs and discrimination.

Not sure about that. One of these cake baker lawsuits were willing to bake cakes for divorced people, and dog marriages among other things. Just not the gays. These people are rarely consistent with their beliefs.

[HELIX35]

I'm 100% on the "that's bull****" side after giving it some more thought

[Mobraelite]

Dont think they should be forced to bake the cakes or go to the stupid sensitivity training (wtf is that)

But also dont understand the resistance to make the cake in the first place. The homos just want you to bake for them not oil up their bung holes.

thats how it starts tho



if you give them a cake they are gonna want a glass of milk too.. nomsayin

[lasher]

I'm 100% on the "that's bull****" side after giving it some more thought

Well that's surprising.

[Fiyero]

he actually has refused though he stopped making cakes and his business is booming on other sales. He should have a catalog of cake options that only have traditional designs (man/woman) and allow no customization. Can't force a baker to make something that's not on the menu/list

Traditional designs? How is a gay cake different than a straight cake? Do people actually put those stupid plastic toppers on them these days?

[GregariousWolf]

Should a Muslim baker be forced to bake this cake:

[tsbalr120]

I'm 100% on the "that's bull****" side after giving it some more thought

Whatttt was hoping you would call me a racist again

[flairon]

Not sure about that. One of these cake baker lawsuits were willing to bake cakes for divorced people, and dog marriages among other things. Just not the gays. These people are rarely consistent with their beliefs.

They don't have to be consistent to YOUR standards.

[HELIX35]

Well that's surprising.

Why

[Ge_Tech]

I think businesses that deal in artistic expressions like bakers, florists, photographers etc should be able to discriminate but the definition should be very narrow.

[Reer43]

I think businesses that deal in artistic expressions like bakers, florists, photographers etc should be able to discriminate but the definition should be very narrow.

such as?

[Streetbull]

He has to keep his bakery open because he kneads the dough.

[BEATINGU]

We now have government re-education centers called "sensitivity training"

This is seriously what the United States has come to

[DizzySmalls]

America isn't doing so well lately. Shyt like this makes it feel like we are just like any other European nanny state

[Bhavasita87]

ridiculous. There has to be some violation of their rights here regarding religious freedom. I'm sure they would turn down a satanist cake as well because of their beliefs. Dumb ass courts can't discern between religious beliefs and discrimination.

So people should only be allowed to discriminate in their own business, with their own life, with who they choose to trade with if its for religious reasons?

There is no argument against banning discrimination in private business that is consistent with claiming to be for personal liberty without resorting to arbitrary distinctions. Most people agree that if someone owned a property for anything except commercial use, they can do whatever they want, including posting no blacks, gays, women, etc allowed. But the moment they decide to say "hey, Im going to let people come in and trade with me", suddenly they should be denied freedom to conduct their trade affairs, that don't affect anyone else, with the only rationale being the entirely arbitrary "well, since its a public business it's different".

[MuscleXtreme]

If i were the baker, i'd go to jail first.

This.

Or just make it so it's a membership with a .99 fee to join and then make it that gay weddings won't be catered as part of the contract.

[Turbomunkey]

Lol @ the fact the couple would go to this extent for a cake. Do they like butter cream spit frosting? Who in their right mind would get on the bad side someone then accept food prepared by that person

[HELIX35]

Lol

Selective hearing mode back on

And he wonders why he gets mocked

[Reer43]

Not sure about that. One of these cake baker lawsuits were willing to bake cakes for divorced people, and dog marriages among other things. Just not the gays. These people are rarely consistent with their beliefs.

do you agree with the govt making private business force people to sell their services?