RANT: Google Maps said turn left?

[GeneralSerpant]

Apparently, Robin Thicke didn't write Blurred Lines. Say it ain't so, Robin! I remember his video was posted on Rant long before it ever became a single.

[darinaldi]

It's interchangeable.

No. They're not interchangeable by a long shot.

GOAT rap song by the GOAT rapper.


Srs.


ur a genius

Motherf*cking this.

Plus Lenco, I love you truly, madly, deeply.

[GeneralSerpant]

No. They're not interchangeable by a long shot.

You're right, I thought effect could be used as a verb.

[chazzy1864]

I can't recall if at some point growing up I thought my parents hated me when they spanked me. But I do know I always took it and other punishments as consequences to my actions. If I did something bad, something bad happened to me. Sometimes it was time out, groundings, no tv time, spankings, etc.

[chazzy1864]

Since we're on the subject of abuse, I just went into fbook and saw this:



This is most definitely child abuse. Don't pierce your infant for unjustified selfish reasoning to "make them look pretty". It doesn't matter how old you were when your parents had yours done. It's unconscionable and wrong. The piercing gun is the least part of the issue here.



Ironically, the original uploader / sharer is a tattoo / body modification page.

[Farley1324]

Week 2 chart

[ThickAsABrick]

[kvk1]

always a joy when the guy with the biggest mouth is dead last

[im2manly]

always a joy when the guy with the biggest mouth is dead last

Althought not really directed at me, I actually consider this a compliment. Thank you.

[im2manly]

Since we're on the subject of abuse, I just went into fbook and saw this:

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This is most definitely child abuse. Don't pierce your infant for unjustified selfish reasoning to "make them look pretty". It doesn't matter how old you were when your parents had yours done. It's unconscionable and wrong. The piercing gun is the least part of the issue here.



Ironically, the original uploader / sharer is a tattoo / body modification page.

I'd be interested in your views on circumcision. No homo of course.

[chazzy1864]

I'm fine with it. It is something that occurs before we, personally, remember anything. I'm glad I'm circumcised. I don't recall it happening at all.

On the subject of the ear piercing, that is another thing that occurs before we remember anything. Also, that is when the ear lobes are the thinnest, which should result in less pain.

[Farley1324]

I'm fine with it. It is something that occurs before we, personally, remember anything. I'm glad I'm circumcised. I don't recall it happening at all.

On the subject of the ear piercing, that is another thing that occurs before we remember anything. Also, that is when the ear lobes are the thinnest, which should result in less pain.

I'm not sure how valid the 'before we remember anything' deal is.

I don't know if/when/where the line is magically crossed, but I am sure that we are, in part, a product of our experiences dating back to before our conscious long term memory.

And even if you don't remember something, does that make it okay? When you are dead you don't remember anything...

[im2manly]

That's is the next thing we have to figure out for our baby boy. Do we go the full circumcision route? Just go halfsies? Or do we just let him walk around in full anteater mode?

[Dominik]

Unless you have a medical reason for taking a scalpel to a newborn's junk, leave it up to him to make the decision one day unless you're one of those nutters who thinks his boy needs to "look like dad."

[PeterGibbons316]

You don't have to get salty.

I didn't mean to insinuate that you're a bad person, or even a bad parent.

It's just my personal opinion that those instances you recount are examples of bad decisions in raising a kid.

I'm not pretending to be an expert, since I can't comprehend the grand scheme of what it means to be a parent, because I'm not one.

But I do know that there is a trend, backed up by academia, against spanking as a form of discipline.

One which I'm fully behind.

That's all.

The problem is that you can't reason with small children, they don't understand it. You have to somehow get them to learn that undesirable actions have undesirable consequences.

I can count the number of times I have spanked my son on one hand, and I think we are done with that. He will be 3 in two weeks and we are teaching him not to punch/hit/kick/bite his friends at school. How can you tell your kid not to hit other kids when you are always hitting them at home??? It just doesn't send the right message.

[im2manly]

Unless you have a medical reason for taking a scalpel to a newborn's junk, leave it up to him to make the decision one day unless you're one of those nutters who thinks his boy needs to "look like dad."

I believe the practice is much greater in America than in other parts of the world. I haven't researched it into great detail yet, as we are still pretty far away. One of my concerns is if we keep it intact, how will he be treated by his male peers and the opposite sex and the effect that would have on him as he develops.

[Hishiad]

That's is the next thing we have to figure out for our baby boy. Do we go the full circumcision route? Just go halfsies? Or do we just let him walk around in full anteater mode?

It's strictly for hygienic purposes really, remember that either way is ok and it'll be all he knows no matter which method you go with.

The healing and care part of it the first 2 weeks is easy and it heals up quickly. Ultimately we did it to help prevent UTIs as if they become common occurrence the doctor's would strongly suggest circumcision as a way to prevent them.



9mth update kiddo weighed 22lbs 15oz and was 29" long. He is crawling up a storm (will send you a vid kvk) and pulling himself up to stand. Has 2 teeth and cutting 4 more and talks up a storm.

[darinaldi]

You're right, I thought effect could be used as a verb.

"Effect" can be used as a verb; just not the way you used it.

[im2manly]

"Effect" can be used as a verb; just not the way you used it.

Hopefully this post will have a positive affect on GS going forward.

[darinaldi]

Hopefully this post will have a positive affect on GS going forward.

I only care about positive reinforcement for children.

[Hishiad]

"Effect" can be used as a verb; just not the way you used it.

Direct Effect

[kvk1]

The problem is that you can't reason with small children, they don't understand it. You have to somehow get them to learn that undesirable actions have undesirable consequences.

Little kids can be maniacal, but they are not wild animals.

Would you agree that something faulty in the parental approach to him led up to that moment of undesirable action?

I understand you have to reprimand shitty behavior in a kid.

I'm not gunning for a supper hippie "let the boy be" thing here. Those kids don't exactly grow up healthy either.

But surely something better exists than inflicting pain (amount/level of which is irrelevant) on a kid (who, once again, at that stage CANNOT fully comprehend why you're hitting him) to teach them right and wrong?

Either try and pinpoint the moments that lead up to the misbehavior and mitigate them, or discipline them in a million other ways that don't include spanking.

[Hishiad]

Little kids can be maniacal, but they are not wild animals.

Would you agree that something faulty in the parental approach to him led up to that moment of undesirable action?

I understand you have to reprimand shitty behavior in a kid.

I'm not gunning for a supper hippie "let the boy be" thing here. Those kids don't exactly grow up healthy either.

But surely something better exists than inflicting pain (amount/level of which is irrelevant) on a kid (who, once again, at that stage CANNOT fully comprehend why you're hitting him) to teach them right and wrong?

Either try and pinpoint the moments that lead up to the misbehavior and mitigate them, or discipline them in a million other ways that don't include spanking.

Haven't spanked the kid at this point not sure how I will approach it when/if the time comes.

At this point I feel it is pointless. A child this young cries when he is hungry, tired, bored, hurt, etc. so he won't get the logic of most punishments, especially spankings.

I honestly see no reason to spank a kid under 5. Everything they do is attention driven or curiosity driven. They just want to soak things up.

[kvk1]

Haven't spanked the kid at this point not sure how I will approach it when/if the time comes.

At this point I feel it is pointless. A child this young cries when he is hungry, tired, bored, hurt, etc. so he won't get the logic of most punishments, especially spankings.

I honestly see no reason to spank a kid under 5. Everything they do is attention driven or curiosity driven. They just want to soak things up.

You should force your kid to watch Chinese Dota if he misbehaves.

That'll put the fear of god in him real quick.

[Hishiad]

you should force your kid to watch chinese dota if he misbehaves.

That'll put the fear of god in him real quick.

look at these commies playing this bs rat dota!!!!

[kvk1]

look at these commies playing this bs rat dota!!!!

[chazzy1864]

I'm not sure how valid the 'before we remember anything' deal is.

I don't know if/when/where the line is magically crossed, but I am sure that we are, in part, a product of our experiences dating back to before our conscious long term memory.

And even if you don't remember something, does that make it okay? When you are dead you don't remember anything...

I'm sure that these infant year instances do act as some variable on our future development, but I argue, "how much?"

It is just, personally, I don't think that circumcising a new-born or getting an infant's ears pierced is having any appreciable effect (positively or negatively) on their outcome. That being said, I also don't think that the occasional spanking is horrible. Bludgeoning your child is horrible and I'm not advocating that. But what if you're in a situation where you can't put the child in time-out or send them to their room with no tv? You're out at the grocery store and they're throwing a tantrum and being just all sorts of assholey which is even becoming a nuisance to everyone else around? Giving them a quick spank to show them there still will be consequences for their actions doesn't seem bad to me.

That being said, in life, not all consequences are the same either. Sometimes retribution is physical as well.

[Hishiad]

Or you could leave the kid sitting there crying?

(Be close by to keep an eye on them, but not feeding the antics with attention)

[PeterGibbons316]

Little kids can be maniacal, but they are not wild animals.

Would you agree that something faulty in the parental approach to him led up to that moment of undesirable action?

I understand you have to reprimand shitty behavior in a kid.

I'm not gunning for a supper hippie "let the boy be" thing here. Those kids don't exactly grow up healthy either.

But surely something better exists than inflicting pain (amount/level of which is irrelevant) on a kid (who, once again, at that stage CANNOT fully comprehend why you're hitting him) to teach them right and wrong?

Either try and pinpoint the moments that lead up to the misbehavior and mitigate them, or discipline them in a million other ways that don't include spanking.

But they ARE wild animals. They don't yet have the experiences nor the ability to make the kinds of decisions that would make you think of them as civilized/domestic creatures.

I'm learning just like my son is, and with every tantrum I learn ways to try to prevent them, but they still happen and I use all the tricks up my sleeve to try and deal with them with spanking being a last resort that I have used if nothing else has worked.

[PeterGibbons316]

Or you could leave the kid sitting there crying?

(Be close by to keep an eye on them, but not feeding the antics with attention)

This is our goto move. We just try to ignore it and show him that crying and throwing a fit never gets him what he wants.

I have to admit though that we could be better at positive reinforcement. We praise him for good actions when they happen, but he is old enough now that we should start rewarding him for behaving over an extended period of time too.