Early birds fantasy football discussion

[jross2021]

What do you guys think of the Carolina WR's? I am keeping Cam newton in my keeper league but i really have no idea who he is going to throw to.

Greg olsen seems like the best option, followed by Kevin B?

I'm interested to see how they use Cotchery. He was an excellent end zone target in Pittsburgh. I'd imagine Carolina will use him more often than pittsburgh did, given the lack of receivers that they have. Tiquan Underwood also showed some promise last year in a couple of games.

5 for 108 and 2 TD's vs. Detroit.
7 for 93 and a TD vs. New Orleans.


I really have no clue whatsoever who will be their number 1 guy. I'd imagine target wise, it should be something like Benjamin, Avant, Underwood, Cotchery They really don't have a guy that would be a number one on any other team.

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[yuja]

Wat. I'd draft them all, at the right price.

There will be some good value picks among the Falcons this year after last year's debacle.

I'd take White..Julio if he fell to late second, but there are other QBs I'd target before even considering drafting Ryan

[HughBMyron]

I'd take White..Julio if he fell to late second, but there are other QBs I'd target before even considering drafting Ryan

I'd still grab Ryan. I don't think hes your possible value QB like grabbing RG3 at qb 10-15 and he ends up being qb 4-8 but Ryan will put up consistent numbers week in/out. If you can get him at qb10-12 i think that's a steal.

Not sure where his ADP is right now however.

[dirtdickens]

I'd take White..Julio if he fell to late second, but there are other QBs I'd target before even considering drafting Ryan

Ryan was a fckin machine before Julio and everyone else got injured. I snagged him decently late and I am very pleased with that. Very easy schedule this year and they got help on the OL.

[yuja]

Ryan was a fckin machine before Julio and everyone else got injured. I snagged him decently late and I am very pleased with that. Very easy schedule this year and they got help on the OL.

He's ranked as the QB7 this season at o-rank 59

I'm not saying don't draft him at all I just prefer RG3 at 61 or Stafford at 54.

lil quip

If the fantasy community’s old nemesis, the injury imp, feasts again on Falcons flesh, Matty Ice will fall short of the 30 TD mark for the sixth time in seven seasons. He's also failed to rank inside the QB top-7 in two of his past three years.

injuries gunna injury, I'm just worried about the overall health of the offensive weapons

[Farley1324]

I think there's basically the top 3 elite QB's, same as last year (Brees, Manning, Rodgers) and then there is a big gap, followed by a handful that have a lot of potential but could finish along with the next 8-10 that are all lumped into a huge pile of Tier 2 options.

Maybe you specifically like Stafford or Griffin or Luck or Romo but they are pretty similar and may not even differentiate from all the rest like Ryan, Newton, Foles, Kaep, Brady, Rivers...and then you still have potential in Dalton, Palmer, Cutler.

I wonder if QB will be matter of selecting between:

*Opt for an elite early
*Pick your favorite high upside Tier 2 guy and take him in the early-middle before somebody else does (rnd 3-5?)
*Wait and take your favorite run of the mill space filler in round 6-7
*Wait wait wait and use two picks to QBBC/hope one hits/whatever, and go like rounds 8-9 or 9-10

Or something like that. (12 team 1QB redraft)

[yuja]

I think there's basically the top 3 elite QB's, same as last year (Brees, Manning, Rodgers) and then there is a big gap, followed by a handful that have a lot of potential but could finish along with the next 8-10 that are all lumped into a huge pile of Tier 2 options.

Maybe you specifically like Stafford or Griffin or Luck or Romo but they are pretty similar and may not even differentiate from all the rest like Ryan, Newton, Foles, Kaep, Brady, Rivers...and then you still have potential in Dalton, Palmer, Cutler.

I wonder if QB will be matter of selecting between:

*Opt for an elite early
*Pick your favorite high upside Tier 2 guy and take him in the early-middle before somebody else does (rnd 3-5?)
*Wait and take your favorite run of the mill space filler in round 6-7
*Wait wait wait and use two picks to QBBC/hope one hits/whatever, and go like rounds 8-9 or 9-10

Or something like that. (12 team 1QB redraft)

my tiers atm

QB0 (elite tier)
Manning
Rodgers
Brees

Have to grab one of these in the 2nd/3rd round or they're gone

QB1a (good, not great tier)
Stafford
Luck
RG3
Ryan
Newton

QB1b
Romo
Brady
Foles
Rivers
Kaep
Cutler
Wilson

Rounds 4-9

QB2
Big Ben
Dalton
Palmer
Manning
Manziel
McCown
A. Smith
Tannehill

Leftovers

QB3
everyone else, not going this deep unless i decide to play a 2 QB league

[Impurityz]

Jordan Matthews come on down

[dhawkeye1980]

my tiers atm

QB0 (elite tier)
Manning
Rodgers
Brees

Have to grab one of these in the 2nd/3rd round or they're gone

QB1a (good, not great tier)
Stafford
Luck
RG3
Ryan
Newton

QB1b
Romo
Brady
Foles
Rivers
Kaep
Cutler
Wilson

Rounds 4-9

QB2
Big Ben
Dalton
Palmer
Manning
Manziel
McCown
A. Smith
Tannehill

Leftovers

QB3
everyone else, not going this deep unless i decide to play a 2 QB league

I believe mccown will be up there with Staff/luck, he has a lot of talent down there at WR and their D is still pretty bad so they will be throwing. I am thinking of stashing him for a backup

[Farley1324]

I believe mccown will be up there with Staff/luck, he has a lot of talent down there at WR and their D is still pretty bad so they will be throwing. I am thinking of stashing him for a backup

A lot of talent at WR?

I can only think of one talented NFL WR down there

[dhawkeye1980]

A lot of talent at WR?

I can only think of one talented NFL WR down there

Vjax, streeter had good games in oakland even with a horrible rookie QB, wright(te) has a lot of talent and patton has the size to be a good receiver. I think they will surprise a lot of teams

[yuja]

I believe mccown will be up there with Staff/luck, he has a lot of talent down there at WR and their D is still pretty bad so they will be throwing. I am thinking of stashing him for a backup

i think of mccown more of a product of trestman/marshall/jeffery/forte than an elite QB..but feel free to prove otherwise, guy is a career backup and I feel like TB will try to win games on the ground more than through the air

not bad for a backup though

[dhawkeye1980]

i think of mccown more of a product of trestman/marshall/jeffery/forte than an elite QB..but feel free to prove otherwise, guy is a career backup and I feel like TB will try to win games on the ground more than through the air

not bad for a backup though

Yea my plan is to try and pick up foles or staff with mccown as a backup. I fear both will be over valued though and go around the 5th round and i would rather wait to 7 or 8 to get a qb

[tsbalr120]

Pretty much decided on getting one of the elite qbs in the 2nd. Not liking alot of the guys who are going in the 2nd, cept maybe morris

[dhawkeye1980]

Pretty much decided on getting one of the elite qbs in the 2nd. Not liking alot of the guys who are going in the 2nd, cept maybe morris

How do you think jones/white will draft this year after those injuries? Matt Ryan as a sleeper?

[Sandman33]

i think of mccown more of a product of trestman/marshall/jeffery/forte than an elite QB..but feel free to prove otherwise, guy is a career backup and I feel like TB will try to win games on the ground more than through the air

not bad for a backup though

This. V-Jax is very good but he's also older, injury prone, and streater really isn't proven. TB will definitely run but I don't have nearly as much faith in Doug Martin as I used to. In fact teams KNOW they're gonna run so that box will be full. I just don't have high hopes for Tampa Bay at all this season.

Pretty much decided on getting one of the elite qbs in the 2nd. Not liking alot of the guys who are going in the 2nd, cept maybe morris

Seems like Peyton is the only QB worth really reaching for, and he's gonna go 1st round. You can stack your rb's, draft 2 solid wr's and with your 5th and sometimes 6th pick still get RGIII, Foles, Romo, or Rivers. With everything going for RGIII this season, he's the qb I'm targeting, and GLAD to swoop up round 5 or 6.

[tsbalr120]

How do you think jones/white will draft this year after those injuries? Matt Ryan as a sleeper?

I think jones/white will get way more red zone targets with tony gone and the running game still a work in process. Ryan ehh idk. Took him late last year and he almost screwed me if i didn't snag foles. Would rather have rivers at that position.

[tsbalr120]

Seems like Peyton is the only QB worth really reaching for, and he's gonna go 1st round. You can stack your rb's, draft 2 solid wr's and with your 5th and sometimes 6th pick still get RGIII, Foles, Romo, or Rivers. With everything going for RGIII this season, he's the qb I'm targeting, and GLAD to swoop up round 5 or 6.

Idk man. Did that last year thinking ryan was a steal and was a trainwreck. Plus i'd be willing to bet on average last year in the semi finals at least 2 of the teams had tier 1 qbs.

[Sandman33]

I think jones/white will get way more red zone targets with tony gone and the running game still a work in process. Ryan ehh idk. Took him late last year and he almost screwed me if i didn't snag foles. Would rather have rivers at that position.

You know..I never thought of that. With Tony G gone white and Jones will see more targets. Of the two...White is the one that really gets my attention, because Julio is going round 2 all day long but Roddy White is going far later, round 4-5 he's still there. And he's on a contract year too, we already know how talented he is. I'd key on White. Julio has played 2 years now...and gotten injured both years, for someone going in round 2 I'd rather have Dez Bryant or D. Thomas.

And the way Rivers played last year...yeah I'd rather have Rivers at the position.

Idk man. Did that last year thinking ryan was a steal and was a trainwreck. Plus i'd be willing to bet on average last year in the semi finals at least 2 of the teams had tier 1 qbs.

I hear you on that. This year it's just a gamble I'm willing to take. I want top talent at my RB, WR, and TE positions. Peyton is the only QB that seriously outpaced everyone else. Do you remember the numbers RGIII was putting up his rookie year? His fantasy points were insane, now he's healed, in a better coaching situation, and has 3 extremely talented people to throw to....which will give him room to RUN.

I know it's still gamble, but I'll take it. Kaepernic is in the same situation now too. I was pissed I drafted him last year, but this year his situation looks SO much better. Crabtree, Boldin, Stevie Johnson, AND Vernon Davis to throw to?!?! And you know he's gonna run if they spread out that receiver coverage. Kap might be the steal of the draft.

[Farley1324]

Pretty much decided on getting one of the elite qbs in the 2nd. Not liking alot of the guys who are going in the 2nd, cept maybe morris

There are great guys going in the second. Though looking at it, I really like the early second guys a lot more than the late second. We'll have to see how Julio does on his foot in camps and pre season. The guy is a monster when healthy.

[yuja]

There are great guys going in the second. Though looking at it, I really like the early second guys a lot more than the late second. We'll have to see how Julio does on his foot in camps and pre season. The guy is a monster when healthy.

Arian Foster too, and Murray (talking about late round 2nd picks)

[Sandman33]

Arian Foster too, and Murray (talking about late round 2nd picks)

I don't want Murray personally. He gets hurt and they just don't use him enough. I'd rather have Tate a few rounds later. Tate will see PLENTY of work and we already know he can run the ball.

Foster in the 2nd round is cool if he lasts that long. Most mocks I'm seeing he leaves late round 1 or early 2. 12 teamers that is.

[Farley1324]

I don't want Murray personally. He gets hurt and they just don't use him enough.

THat's what people said last year.

People laughed when I took Murray and Ryan Mathews in a league last year.

[Impurityz]

lol wait... what is this
12 1.12 Montee Ball
15 2.04 LeVeon Bell


monte ball is getting drafted #12? ADP
and bell @ 15?

[Farley1324]

lol wait... what is this
12 1.12 Montee Ball
15 2.04 LeVeon Bell


monte ball is getting drafted #12? ADP
and bell @ 15?

No thanks.

But yeah that's how FFC has it

[Impurityz]

No thanks.

But yeah that's how FFC has it

obviously still really early, but wanted to skim and see how things are going right now

they honestly wouldnt even be a crumb of a thought at those picks

[Sandman33]

THat's what people said last year.

People laughed when I took Murray and Ryan Mathews in a league last year.

Yeah but neither one of them were fantastic fantasy wise were they? Mathews ended up being #12 I think.

lol wait... what is this
12 1.12 Montee Ball
15 2.04 LeVeon Bell


monte ball is getting drafted #12? ADP
and bell @ 15?

Yeah people are just going by the fact that Peyton Manning stretches that field out so his running backs don't face a stacked box. They think Ball will do better this year than Moreno did last year.

Thoughts on MJD? I think he hated Jax, and Run DMC is a turd..so he might do very well this year in OAK. He's going real real late too, like round 8-9

[Farley1324]

Yeah but neither one of them were fantastic fantasy wise were they? Mathews ended up being #12 I think.

What, you have a problem drafting the #12 RB in the 5th round (or later)? FFC has his 2013 ADP as 5.01 in a 12 man league, pick 49.

I thought that was a pretty good deal.

I had some people, one guy especially, go absolutely ape **** on me for pushing Ryan Mathews.

Guess I got the last laugh on that one eh?

[SmurfCrusher]

I will be loving it when Gronkowski gets his 18+ TD's this year. Gon be good.

[yuja]

I will be loving it when Gronkowski gets his 18+ TD's this year. Gon be good.

same year Amendola stays healthy all season and puts up Welker-type numbers right?


and the Patriots will win the super bowl....and Ridley won't fumble a single ball