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    Originally Posted by poison View Post
    30sec does very little, especially in the summertime. Gotta use a thermometer.





    Coffee brewing, any style, is a matter of extraction. Extraction is influenced by the type of bean, roast level, grind size, water type, water temp, brew time. So it's super-complex, potentially. Here's a primer of how these affect extraction:

    Bean - dense beans will extract less. They can be dense because of origin, or roast level (darker = less dense).

    Roast level - as above, lighter = denser, darker = less dense

    Grind - finer extracts more, coarser extracts less

    Water type - different components in the water have an affinity for different components in the coffee. Distilled water is utter crap, hard water is also crap. Crystal Geyser is generally in the ballpark, Fiji tastes GREAT, or these guys are here to help you: https://thirdwavewater.com/

    Water temp - hotter extracts more, cooler extracts less

    Brew time - longer = more, of course; shorter = less


    So take a dark roast. It's already less dense, so imagine if you ground finer and brewed at 212 degrees. It would over-extract pretty bad. If you grind somewhat coarser, and brew at 195, it might taste much better. Conversely, an uber-light nordic roast: if you grind coarse and brew at 180, you'd get something resembling green tea, lol. Grind finer and raise the temp and it could taste awesome.

    The point isn't to get lost in tweaking parameters, the point is to understand what effect different parameters have. If it tastes sour, and it's a light roast, grind finer and brew hotter. If it tastes burnt, maybe it's some crazy charred French Roast, in which case it is burnt, but if it's not? Grind coarser, brew cooler, it should taste better.

    Try not to change more than one parameter at a time!
    10/10 post. As soon as i read "if it tastes sour" i immediately remember the taste i had earlier. And how today the darker roast ive got tasted 1000x better after letting sit.

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    200 for me, it seems like if it’s slightly under 200 it doesn’t change much. I’ve poured it as cold as 185 And still tasted great.
    I definitely need to let my electric kettle get to a rolling boil and let it sit for a solid minute or two easily then. Thermometer incumming.
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    Seemed to this morning. Kettle was the first thing i turned on and let it continue to sit for a few minutes.

    Curious what the thermo reveals.
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    Hope it helps!
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    Seemed to this morning. Kettle was the first thing i turned on and let it continue to sit for a few minutes.

    Curious what the thermo reveals.
    I usually use 200.

    Every since I read this article I changed my game up.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...tter-espresso/

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    Originally Posted by twovalvekid View Post
    Seemed to this morning. Kettle was the first thing i turned on and let it continue to sit for a few minutes.

    Curious what the thermo reveals.
    Let's do it!

    Originally Posted by Kay4Kool View Post
    I usually use 200.

    Every since I read this article I changed my game up.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...tter-espresso/

    He's not brewing espresso.

    I'm not a fan of that advice, at all. Thin, watery shots are NOT my jam, and cost be damned. That's what happens when lab rats poke their noses in art(isan activities).
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    Just had my first cup of this beauty.

    My new favorite espresso bean.
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    Just had my first cup of this beauty.

    My new favorite espresso bean.
    Get yourself some espresso torro:



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    A customer did a sweet video review on my coffee:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb4hL971JP8&
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    Originally Posted by poison View Post
    A customer did a sweet video review on my coffee:

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    always open to trying new coffee. Running low on Petes Dickensons that I was trying out. What you recommend from your company for a pour over using freshly ground beans?
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    Originally Posted by DarthCholo View Post
    always open to trying new coffee. Running low on Petes Dickensons that I was trying out. What you recommend from your company for a pour over using freshly ground beans?
    Try the Ethiopia, if you want a wild change of pace!
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    New fresh crop Sumatra in. I carried this one in 2018. It's extremely limited production, only 200 bags, and it's the top grade from this region. If you like thick, syrupy coffees, scotch, and foresty notes, this is for you.
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    Yowza. Thermometer finally came in after getting caught in my mail forwarding. You were right poison. This kettle gets to a rolling boil (around 220) and doesnt fall below 200 for a solid 6-7 mins. Made today with 200* and totally different flavor profile. May let it cool down a little more tomorrow.
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    Yowza. Thermometer finally came in after getting caught in my mail forwarding. You were right poison. This kettle gets to a rolling boil (around 220) and doesnt fall below 200 for a solid 6-7 mins. Made today with 200* and totally different flavor profile. May let it cool down a little more tomorrow.
    I'm not one to say I told you so, but...oh nevermind.

    Depending on the coffee, 195 can be good too. Remember, darker roasts can take cooler Temps, lighter need hotter, in general between 195 and boiling.
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    I am now Nespresso Master Race
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    Originally Posted by poison View Post
    I'm not one to say I told you so, but...oh nevermind.

    Depending on the coffee, 195 can be good too. Remember, darker roasts can take cooler Temps, lighter need hotter, in general between 195 and boiling.
    I definitely want a temperature controlled kettle now. Seeing how wildly this thing varies.

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    Nooooo. You can do better.
    No, I can't.

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    New Mexico Organic in stock! Super nice stuff.
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    Can confirm
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    Coupon code invalid left note.



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    Check ur dm's bae
    Hi am 12 and wut is this.
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    Hi am 12 and wut is this.
    ur lucky day
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    ur lucky day
    Pepper you tender angus for whatever my luck provides.
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    Coupon code invalid left note.
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    what code works gonna order some java
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