Keto Diet Questions

**HeavyLifta** · 05-01-2002, 05:33 PM

ok through reading this whole thread ive learned this, someone tell me if im missing something thanks

-im 185 so i eat 1850 cals a day when i gradually lose weight do i also lower the calories?

-postworkout 30g whey 30g dextrose

-50g of carbs a day

-carb loads are for 24 hrs, im going to be doing them on the weekends since the last day of my workouts are on fridays, how many gms of carbs should i be eating, is the carb load just one meal, or meals with a certain amount of carbs for an amount of time

thanks

**fitnessman** · 05-02-2002, 04:23 AM

For a load I prefer 60% carbs, 30% protein, 10% fat....4-6 meals.

Yes as bodyweight drops adjust intake.

**HeavyLifta** · 05-02-2002, 05:00 AM

oh and one more thing this week since im dropping my cals this is my week off, should i be taking glutamine when i came up and before i sleep since im dropping cals or should i start using glutamine next week once i start doing cardio and working out?

**fitnessman** · 05-02-2002, 05:36 AM

I only use glutamine post cardio.

**HeavyLifta** · 05-02-2002, 05:51 AM

not even before you sleep? cant you go into a catabolic state?

and post workout?

**fitnessman** · 05-02-2002, 06:17 AM

No. You will plenty of fatty acids to prevent that.

**HeavyLifta** · 05-02-2002, 06:26 AM

oh ok fitnessman youve been great help, thanks alot

**Anxed** · 05-02-2002, 06:27 AM

(was a single post, Im posting here to keep it in the mix)

I understand that Fitnessman does a keto diet year round... as, I am planning on doing the same thing.. is there anything I should keep in mind when going on a keto for an extended period of time (other than the obvious taking vitamins, drinking water, workout, etc)?

Should I take a break from it every now and then (cycle the diet)?

Ive been in the habit lately (after almost 3 months on a keto diet) of having a carb centric day every 2 weeks (thats a carb load.. not carb excess), should I do this more frequently on an extended keto diet?

any info or links would be great... thx

**fitnessman** · 05-02-2002, 06:36 AM

Dessicated liver or folic acid is helpful for me.

I take breaks for vacations and around the holidays.

I carb load every week. Even a few beers during that period.

The more you get used to the diet, the more you will understand how great it is. On vacations of eating anything I wish, its still hard to shift back to a sugar burning metabolism.

**Anxed** · 05-02-2002, 07:10 AM

this keto diet has really changed the way I look and live... I used to be one of those guys that could never put the diet altogether... now, Im actually looking more like a bodybuilder, rather than a powerlifter... thanks for all the help

**HeavyLifta** · 05-02-2002, 09:58 AM

i know im still bringing my calories down to 1900 so i can finally start my keto diet and start working out again hopefully i get good results

**HeavyLifta** · 05-02-2002, 10:11 AM

when you do cardio in the morning do you intake more calories to recover from cardio or you eat the same

**fitnessman** · 05-02-2002, 11:45 AM

Anxed, I agree with what you said 100%. At 30 my gains just stopped. That is when I started my research on these diets. Lots of trail and error. Now I am bigger and stronger than I ever thought I could be.

I work out with a couple guys my age, serious lifters. They stay put, I keep going. I have been acused lately of using steroids. I havent. They just cant understand how someone who limits carbs can grow.

Heavy, I work out at gym at the university I work at. In the afternoon when I get off its packed with young grunters and screamers. I weight train in the morning due to that. Cardio after work with abs. I only do light cardio 5 days weeks, abs 4-5 days as well.

**HeavyLifta** · 05-02-2002, 03:25 PM

fitnessman check your pm, also i took 50g o carbs in the morning and am carb free still can i continue with today as a beginning of keto or do the carbs have to spread apart during the day?

**fitnessman** · 05-02-2002, 04:37 PM

Spread apart.

**HeavyLifta** · 05-02-2002, 05:46 PM

ya thats what i thought, i told my mom to get sausage and she got these italian ones but they have dextrose so i should only eat them for breakfast?

**fitnessman** · 05-03-2002, 04:25 AM

You have to watch all foods to be sure that not much sugar has been added.

**HeavyLifta** · 05-03-2002, 04:58 AM

this morning i did cardio and took dextrose with 10 gm of glutamine, how much dextrose do you use with it, i used about 30 , is that too much or little?

**fitnessman** · 05-03-2002, 05:46 AM

PERFECT!

**HeavyLifta** · 05-03-2002, 07:03 AM

alright thanks, ive been actually feeling leaner after starting the diet its great

**HeavyLifta** · 05-03-2002, 07:55 AM

about the sausage thing is has no sugar and 2 gm of carb but how can it have dextrose?

**fitnessman** · 05-03-2002, 08:57 AM

That is odd....

Remember one very important thing. Any Carb is only seen as sugar by the body.

All carbs are converted to glucose.

**karina** · 05-03-2002, 01:19 PM

hey fitnessman,

how do sugar alcohols affect a keto diet? i am not talking about the ones in protein bars. i am interested supplementing with inositol for its mood-brightening properties. however it has to be taken in large doses to be effective, something like 10-12grams a day. and since it is a type of sugar alcohol, i was wondering if that will kick me out of ketosis, and how it will affect my keto diet in general.

thanks

**HeavyLifta** · 05-03-2002, 01:51 PM

what gelatin, cause it was on the ingredients for this canned ham, its really good plus whats the sodium intake on a keto diet before you start retaining water, the serving for the ham was 560mg of sodium and i had 2 serving which is around 1.1g is that bad?

**Richie** · 05-04-2002, 03:14 AM

hey Chi_Town & Fitnessman etc, i've tried this keto diet twice before and screwed it up. i don't think i was eating enough fat. but after reading this thread i want to try it again. most questions have been answered but i do have a couple 1/ i've been using creatine for about 2 weeks. can i keep using it in my post-workout shake only? 2/ i've read so many good things about alpha lipoic acid lately so can i work this into a keto diet. i feel great on this stuff.i feel full & hyper but the fat loss isn't really happening as quick as i would like. 3/ increasing fats when low on energy is recommended but what sources are the best kind? i'm just worried about passing out behind the wheel or something.it's Saturday and i'll be starting Monday.Richie

**HeavyLifta** · 05-04-2002, 09:54 AM

question 3 i can answer

unsaturated fats

polyunsaturated and monounsaturated

examples

nuts
olive oil
flax seed
peanut butter

**Anxed** · 05-04-2002, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by HeavyLifta

peanut butter

mmm... peanut butter... that has been my secret "keto diet weapon".. well.. its not so secret, but its cool...

**Harms Way** · 05-04-2002, 12:56 PM

I wasn't able to start my keto diet last month like I planned due to school and some other garbage. My question is this: I am not going to be able to lift for one week, so would it be a good idea to start the keto diet that week, then the next week resume lifting? Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

**Richie** · 05-04-2002, 07:15 PM

i don't know a lot about alpha lipoic acid or keto diets but what i was thinking was when you are consuming moderate carbs you are depleting glycogen stores in the liver so if i was taking ALA (going to experiment with doses but maybe around 900-1000mg with carb meals) then wouldn't the ALA shuttle all the carbs into the muscle so you could still remain in ketosis? it would seem to work in theory but the only carbs i was going to eat would be juice post-workout and broccoli and spinach with my evening meal.i think with this supp (and like i said,i don't a lot.....yet) you could relax with the carbs a little more.Fitnessman,i'd love to hear your opinion on this.Richie

**HeavyLifta** · 05-05-2002, 12:51 PM

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