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    Why on earth do game creators make things exclusive?

    It limits their markets severely.

    Wouldn't they make more money from letting it out on all platforms?
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    What if the console maker is paying them for the exclusivity?
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    What if the console maker is paying them for the exclusivity?
    Surely selling a game on 4 different platforms can earn you more money than one company can pay for... right?
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    Surely selling a game on 4 different platforms can earn you more money than one company can pay for... right?
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    Sony/Microsoft pay them too
    1 platform = less bugs/higher quality
    Less development time= less overhead/costs
    Probably get some sort of payment up front
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    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
    I have no idea how this pertains to the topic.
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    Originally Posted by tdnick View Post
    Sony/Microsoft pay them too
    1 platform = less bugs/higher quality
    Less development time= less overhead/costs
    Probably get some sort of payment up front
    This phag just summed it up for you.
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    I have no idea how this pertains to the topic.
    getting a guaranteed deal with a Sony/MS, with the aforementioned benefits of only working with one system, better product, less headaches, etc, is worth more than the possibility of making more overall sales with a wider audience.
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    Originally Posted by tdnick View Post
    Sony/Microsoft pay them too
    1 platform = less bugs/higher quality
    Less development time= less overhead/costs
    Probably get some sort of payment up front
    Forgot to add that they probably don't have to pay much of the advertising for the game either. Sony/Microsoft pays a large chunk if not all of it.
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    Originally Posted by tdnick View Post
    Sony/Microsoft pay them too
    1 platform = less bugs/higher quality
    Less development time= less overhead/costs
    Probably get some sort of payment up front
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    getting a guaranteed deal with a Sony/MS, with the aforementioned benefits of only working with one system, better product, less headaches, etc, is worth more than the possibility of making more overall sales with a wider audience.
    Originally Posted by tdnick View Post
    Forgot to add that they probably don't have to pay much of the advertising for the game either. Sony/Microsoft pays a large chunk if not all of it.

    So if you had to ballpark, how much do you think they get paid for exclusiveness?
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    So if you had to ballpark, how much do you think they get paid for exclusiveness?
    There's no way to guess without knowing their cost structure and whether or not Sony/Microsoft is just paying for that one exclusive, or if they are heavily investing for future games/projects.

    Just by guessing, I would assume they make a 10%-20% return but then again, Sony/Microsoft might guarantee this in their contracts. Mr4wdtrd I'm sure could answer this a little better since he's dealt with many developers directly but who knows. I don't feel like looking up financials.
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    In the cases of Naughty Dog, Geurilla Games, Sucker Punch, Bungie MS and Sony own them so they dont have a choice lol.
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    Originally Posted by tdnick View Post
    There's no way to guess without knowing their cost structure and whether or not Sony/Microsoft is just paying for that one exclusive, or if they are heavily investing for future games/projects.

    Just by guessing, I would assume they make a 10%-20% return but then again, Sony/Microsoft might guarantee this in their contracts. Mr4wdtrd I'm sure could answer this a little better since he's dealt with many developers directly but who knows. I don't feel like looking up financials.
    lol don't troll me bro

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    In the cases of Naughty Dog, Geurilla Games, Sucker Punch, Bungie MS and Sony own them so they dont have a choice lol.
    well obviously. lol
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    Isn't always a matter of money, Sony owns a whole bunch of studios, same for Nintendo. Microsoft often pays for exclusivity, and often just for a period, you'd have to admit that just waiting half a year to release on other platforms would be worth the money that they're probably paying. Furthermore, they can sometimes offer other other resources, in the case of Titanfall, it uses Microsoft's Azure servers which may well be very useful for an online only game. I think they also may have said they use them for computing AI. Just glad its on PC.
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    It limits their markets severely.

    Wouldn't they make more money from letting it out on all platforms?
    That is exactly what the game creators tell the console companies.

    Then the console companies ask, how much more do you expect to make by opening the product up to a bigger market?

    We will pay you that much, plus 10-20%, as an exclusivity premium.

    Make more money? Sure thing console company, says the game creator, lets make a deal.
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    Surely selling a game on 4 different platforms can earn you more money than one company can pay for... right?
    Not exactly. Look at what happened with xbox. They experienced a 96% increase in sales in UK as soon as the Titanfall bundle was released. All these new customers are going to pay $50-$80 a year for xbox live gold. Many will buy the $20 battery pack, the $80 headset, and plenty of other games Microsoft will make money on.

    Microsoft has to take the leap of faith and estimate the average revenue per additional customer. Then estimate the amount of additional customers a game might help bring to the console, as well as retention/attribution rates. And if they think there is enough money in it, they will invest in the exclusive title.
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    Game creators don't make exclusives. Console producers pay top dollar for the rights to exclusives because it sells consoles.
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    Originally Posted by ko300zx View Post
    Game creators don't make exclusives. Console producers pay top dollar for the rights to exclusives because it sells consoles.
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    He meant the developers would make more money, and he's right. The deal EA struck with microsoft gives them an extra $10-15 per sale where in contrast, a ps4 version of the game would give them $25-35 per sale

    It was a bad deal. Usually when microsoft pays for exclusive, they fund the entire game(Like with Halo and Gears). That wasn't the case here
    But do you know how many copies they are foregoing on PS4 and what they Exclusivity fee was? How can you claim to know they would make more money on both consoles than they would from a premium if you don't know the amounts?
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    Developers don't decide who they sell their games too.

    As for why are there exclusives, it's because the guys who make the platforms pay other guys to make it exclusive.

    Simple as that.

    Most games aren't exclusive anymore, because the install base is so large it just doesn't make sense most of the time. Too many people play video games on too many different platforms unlike older generations.
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    Originally Posted by Cannonsex View Post
    In the cases of Naughty Dog, Geurilla Games, Sucker Punch, Bungie MS and Sony own them so they dont have a choice lol.
    Slight correction, Bungie is not longer owned now, which is awesome

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