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    whey protein spiking!?

    I was reading a couple of articles where it stated that alot of whey protein powders are spiked with glycine,taurine and creatine to make them pass has whey protein,count amino acids as protein! my questions is, body fortess it states 30 grams per scoop! After all this spiking how many grams of real protein does one get?
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    Originally Posted by Shadow2111 View Post
    I was reading a couple of articles where it stated that alot of whey protein powders are spiked with glycine,taurine and creatine to make them pass has whey protein,count amino acids as protein! my questions is, body fortess it states 30 grams per scoop! After all this spiking how many grams of real protein does one get?
    It is true that this does occur.

    If you're that worried about it, I'd just avoid any brands that list it. Realistically, it may be only a couple grams of protein/serving that you're missing, so physiologically you're likely getting the same overall benefit from the protein source.
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    This is why i avoid most brands. I dont buy any that add additional taurine, creatine or glycine without specific AA breakdowns
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...

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    Depends on how much of those ingredients are in there. If you look on the label of Body Fortress Whey, the second ingredient is Super Recovery Blend (and the first two ingredients within that blend are glycine, and creatine).

    You should also know that every gram of glycine will read as 1.19g of protein, and every gram of creatine will read as 2.05g of protein.
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    -Yes a lot of brands do it.

    -Yes, sometimes it can only be in "negligible amounts." People have pushed the matter off to the side because of this and the fact that it won't be doing any damage if your diet has an array of protein sources in it. I think the general idea that you are paying for something that isn't there is not something to be tolerated.

    -No, you shouldn't support a company that does it.
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    Originally Posted by xavengedx23 View Post
    -Yes a lot of brands do it.

    -Yes, sometimes it can only be in "negligible amounts." People have pushed the matter off to the side because of this and the fact that it won't be doing any damage if your diet has an array of protein sources in it. I think the general idea that you are paying for something that isn't there is not something to be tolerated.

    -No, you shouldn't support a company that does it.
    Agreed. If we support the brands that are "spiking"why would those that don't continue doing business that way? If they can increase profits with cheap aminos since the consumers don't give a damn why wouldn't they.
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    Lots of companies spike. As above poster states, as long as consumers continue to support, it will never change. I've been yelling about this for years. It's often met with people saying, "Well, it was on sale and it tastes good bro so I don't care". It's the principal that should piss people off. The sad part are the manufactures that actually willingly make the product. To me, you have to call the entire brand lineup into question if they're willing to do this.

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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    This is why i avoid most brands. I dont buy any that add additional taurine, creatine or glycine without specific AA breakdowns
    Exactly this.

    XF, ON, SAN (whey), Cellucor Whey, and Pronom are the only protein powders I will ever purchase.

    I haven't had any experience with Scivation whey, but it would be another one I would consider.
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    Originally Posted by Mike McCandless;
    "Well, it was on sale and it tastes good bro so I don't care".

    Don't worry though, I'm sure good bro's rep for them
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    Originally Posted by Mike McCandless View Post
    It's often met with people saying, "Well, it was on sale and it tastes good bro so I don't care". It's the principal that should piss people off. The sad part are the manufactures that actually willingly make the product. To me, you have to call the entire brand lineup into question if they're willing to do this.

    Don't worry though, I'm sure good bro's rep for them
    I'm with Mr. McCandless on this. Luckily I'm not a taste addict, and I give a **** about how good are the bro's who repping for company X. I choose products by another criteria.
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    Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    Exactly this.

    XF, ON, SAN (whey), Cellucor Whey, and Pronom are the only protein powders I will ever purchase.

    I haven't had any experience with Scivation whey, but it would be another one I would consider.
    100% Agree with both.

    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    This is why i avoid most brands. I dont buy any that add additional taurine, creatine or glycine without specific AA breakdowns
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    Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    Exactly this.

    XF, ON, SAN (whey), Cellucor Whey, and Pronom are the only protein powders I will ever purchase.

    I haven't had any experience with Scivation whey, but it would be another one I would consider.
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    You're missing out honey buns
    Im pretty sure he mentioned XF


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    Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    Exactly this.

    XF, ON, SAN (whey), Cellucor Whey, and Pronom are the only protein powders I will ever purchase.

    I haven't had any experience with Scivation whey, but it would be another one I would consider.
    Couldn't agree more and scivation's protein doesn't get mentioned enough. The chocolate flavor is still one of my favorites.
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    Protein spiking is unfortunate, but only a small population of supplement users actually know about it. Until the larger population is informed, companies will still do it.
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    Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    Exactly this.

    XF, ON, SAN (whey), Cellucor Whey, and Pronom are the only protein powders I will ever purchase.

    I haven't had any experience with Scivation whey, but it would be another one I would consider.
    Pretty much my list but with BioX added to it.
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    i agree 100% with most of you guys,the problem is most people dont know about the "spiking" unless they really research it, thats one of the reason i started this thread to try to make people more aware of this,i switched to ON gold standard as soon as i found out about this. still have a tub of BF and considering the servings and grams per servings ON is still a better deal then those cheap proteins.
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    Protein spiking is unfortunate, but only a small population of supplement users actually know about it. Until the larger population is informed, companies will still do it.
    Truth, and the majority of consumers don't know what most of the back label means anyway.

    All we can hope for is that enough people support the brands that do not do this.
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    All we can hope for is that enough people support the brands that do not do this.
    The uneducated heavily outweigh the educated consumer
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    The uneducated heavily outweigh the educated consumer
    The sad truth. CNN should do a news piece on it
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    Supplements account for a very small % of your gains (or lack there of), so while I agree that companies are trying to deceive customers, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. I've said it 100 times... When my lifts are down, I feel smaller or the mirror tells me I need to work harder, I don't blame my protein powder. When my clothes get too tight, my lifts are up and the mirror tells me I'm jacked, I don't thank my supplements.

    Don't rely on supplements, after all they're supplements.

    Get an affordable protein & roll with it. When I pick a protein, it's mostly for the price. To be honest. The prices or protein powder has shot through the roof. Do you get what you pay for? Sure. But do you really need super duper hypertrophy wielding protein powder in really cool, chromed out tubs? Nada.


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    Originally Posted by Team Punishment View Post
    Supplements account for a very small % of your gains (or lack there of), so while I agree that companies are trying to deceive customers, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. I've said it 100 times... When my lifts are down, I feel smaller or the mirror tells me I need to work harder, I don't blame my protein powder. When my clothes get too tight, my lifts are up and the mirror tells me I'm jacked, I don't thank my supplements.

    Don't rely on supplements, after all they're supplements.

    Get an affordable protein & roll with it. When I pick a protein, it's mostly for the price. To be honest. The prices or protein powder has shot through the roof. Do you get what you pay for? Sure. But do you really need super duper hypertrophy wielding protein powder in really cool, chromed out tubs? Nada.


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    Originally Posted by Team Punishment View Post
    do you really need super duper hypertrophy wielding protein powder in really cool, chromed out tubs? . .
    ... Possibly
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    ... Possibly
    Then check the dictionary for the definition of "supplement".
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    Originally Posted by Team Punishment View Post
    Then check the dictionary for the definition of "dietary supplement".
    a product taken orally that contains one or more ingredients (as vitamins or amino acids) that are intended to supplement one's diet and are not considered food


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