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    It will be interesting to see the combos these companies use with AMP. the Go to so far seems AMP and a fairly reasonable to high amount of caffeine. From there is seems to be a range such as choline, pikatropin, creatine, yohimbine...etc.

    Im curious if a certain blend might promote a slower tolerance build up or better effects. If not i would assume these pre's would have to be cycled off on a more common schedule as opposed to others to attend to AMP tolerance.

    needless to say, im on board to try these. just a little hesitant because so far Preamp is 40 servings a tub, but 2 scoops would be alot of money for just 20 servings. the same goes for Evol.. Pills might be most cost effective
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    I can say that the ampitripin hasn't had as much of a debilitating effect as evol did for me. It seems to be a good combo for the amp. I did like the choline bitartrate amp combo in evol tho. Companies will no doubt keep experimenting. So far ampitropin is more of a winner for me then evol when it comes to a stim/focus kick.
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    2g of pre-exercise carbs is going to have zero effect on yohimbine. Mental masturbation is bad mmkay
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    No effects at all. I've never played with it personally but HED based on rodent studies suggest ~7.8mg/kg BW for a significant effect. That's also if it's an i.p. injection so should probably be estimated higher
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...91305712001244
    I have 5g sitting here from a 10g batch. The previous 5g were tested extensively monitoring many objective measures like vital signs and many subjective measures as well. The story was always the same: a quick hard buzz lasting no longer than a PEA high, then a crash that puts you right to bed
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    What are you looking to get out of this product? What was it about friction that "let you down"



    Glad to hear it, as far as price point I would ballpark it around friction.
    Energy and focus/concentration. Mainly for cardio and as a study aid.

    Friction was full of energy but that was it. The focus was pretty much non-existent.
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    Originally Posted by U.S.M.C. TANKER View Post
    Energy and focus/concentration. Mainly for cardio and as a study aid.

    Friction was full of energy but that was it. The focus was pretty much non-existent.
    add 100-200 mg L-Theanine
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    Originally Posted by GetRippedInc View Post
    Because they died
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    Just got home from my first workout with Redline White Heat and it's the real deal.

    Did a heavy, heavy back workout and I feel like I can turn around and go back and do it again.

    Strong, strong stuff. Might be stronger than the OG Muscle Marinade. I dont notice any typical yohimbe effects, so I suspect the amount is very minimal.

    The strawberry flavoring is absolutely excellent too, really delicious.
    Thanks sloopy

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    Is VPX going to give out some free samples for this?
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    Got quite a few samples of this at the Arnold this weekend. I can also confirm...this **** is good! Strawberry tastes amazing without that "too sugary" taste. I may have just found my new pre-workout if the price is right.
    Glad you liked it! Pricing should be very competitive!
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    When could we expect this to hit the stores! am pumped to try
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    Das it mane. Hook a brother up vpx.
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    I'll certainly pick up a tub of this to give a shot. Caffeine + AMP + Citicholine + Y should be fantastic.
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    If any one wants to try it. Free samples in sig
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    Originally Posted by jabmaster2 View Post
    If any one wants to try it. Free samples in sig
    Or my sig, since it's cooler.
    Fck your "Company rep rule violation"
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    Did someone say free samples?
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...

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    Originally Posted by nugget5 View Post
    Or my sig, since it's cooler.
    Ill email your sig to see which provides better samples

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    Did someone say free samples?
    Instead of the batman signal have the pc signal. Just say free samples in sig and you appear
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    Originally Posted by nugget5 View Post
    Gonna see if I can get the y dropped and CDP increased, this would be my go to for leg day if it were the case
    That would be awesome.

    The combo of caffeine, AMP, CDP choline, and theacrine is very interesting. But with yohimbine in the formula, I won't be buying it.

    There aren't a lot of ingredients that a large portion of people react negatively too. Yohimbine is one of them though, and I really wish manufacturers would stop using it, or at least offer a yohimbine-free version. You either react well to it, or you react really bad to it.
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    Originally Posted by KBoss302 View Post
    That would be awesome.

    The combo of caffeine, AMP, CDP choline, and theacrine is very interesting. But with yohimbine in the formula, I won't be buying it.

    There aren't a lot of ingredients that a large portion of people react negatively too. Yohimbine is one of them though, and I really wish manufacturers would stop using it, or at least offer a yohimbine-free version. You either react well to it, or you react really bad to it.
    Read a couple posts up, try it out yourself before you buy it.
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    Originally Posted by KBoss302 View Post
    That would be awesome.

    The combo of caffeine, AMP, CDP choline, and theacrine is very interesting. But with yohimbine in the formula, I won't be buying it.

    There aren't a lot of ingredients that a large portion of people react negatively too. Yohimbine is one of them though, and I really wish manufacturers would stop using it, or at least offer a yohimbine-free version. You either react well to it, or you react really bad to it.
    I'm one of those who react badly to yohimbe. I get the cold shivers, I sweat but feel freezing cold at the same time, and I've experienced none of that while taking White Heat so far.

    I've used it now 3 times and really like it. It's definitely powerful and [at full dose] may not be for everyone, but I wouldn't let the yohimbe content scare you.
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    I'm one of those who react badly to yohimbe. I get the cold shivers, I sweat but feel freezing cold at the same time, and I've experienced none of that while taking White Heat so far.

    I've used it now 3 times and really like it. It's definitely powerful and [at full dose] may not be for everyone, but I wouldn't let the yohimbe content scare you.
    Appreciate the feedback sloop and I'm excited to try it. Have you been using 1 whole scoop?
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    Appreciate the feedback sloop and I'm excited to try it. Have you been using 1 whole scoop?
    Yes.

    One scoop is plenty. Dare I say, more than enough?
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    Yes.

    One scoop is plenty. Dare I say, more than enough?
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    Will it be sold on bodybuilding.com? Available to Canada?
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    Originally Posted by Wallet33 View Post
    Will it be sold on bodybuilding.com? Available to Canada?
    Shoot an email over to international@vpxsports.com and they should be able to help you out, maybe even get you some samples
    Fck your "Company rep rule violation"
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    Originally Posted by nugget5 View Post
    Shoot an email over to international@vpxsports.com and they should be able to help you out, maybe even get you some samples
    Great thanks alot!
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    when is this coming out?
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    Originally Posted by ultramario17 View Post
    when is this coming out?
    By the end of April it will have been released, but I'm inclined to think within the next 2 weeks.
    Fck your "Company rep rule violation"
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    Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy View Post
    The funny thing about Y is, if you tolerate it, you love it. Erections, libido and all that jazz.
    this though, gotta agree, i love me some yo
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    Originally Posted by ultramario17 View Post
    when is this coming out?
    It is available currently but bb.com does not have it yet.
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