Why are office jobs considered more alpha than tradesmen by misc?

[TheApathy]

Lol at all the butthurt tradesmen in this thread.

Both white collar and blue collar jobs have alphas and a **** load of betas, so shut the fuk up already and stop e-statting.

[Achilles87]

Lolwat

Apart from a tiny minority, office jobs and their employees are beta as fuk

[DennisR1977]

guess how i can tell you're a tradesman....

Because I'll tell you I am? I'm a millwright, I'll teach the engineers how the machines run/operate.

People ITT act like all trades just swing hammers breaking rocks or putting in railroad rails.

People ITT saying you'll wear out your body early, while on a body building website, where people overload their bodies as a hobby.

Skilled trades hardly bust their asses, especially the smart ones, there are ways of making the job easier and machines for just about anything now to make the job easier.

[jakobi78]

if you're a skilled tradesman, you can make good money.... customers will actually pay for your service...

im a finishing carpentry and i can easily make $500 on a 4-5 hr job putting beams on the ceiling....

[ALonelyHero]

I'm a lineman

stats: 6"1 177...

[Rohze]

I have a problem with the white collar workers acting like they are so much better than blue collar workers because they sit on a computer and pound keys all day. When its the blue collar workers thats responsible for the house they live in, The car they drive to work in, The desk they are sitting at, The chair they are sitting in, The building they are working at, The electricity that powers the fuking computer they are sitting in front of. The road that they use to drive to work on.

Most alpha thing I've read today.

[engj]

Ive done both over the years. Started as a tradesman and am currently senior management on the business side of things. Skilled trades have earned my respect, no work gets done (and not a dollar gets earned) until somebody actually picks up a shovel, puts on a tool belt, or fires up the excavator.

It is easier to reach the relative peak earning potential in a trade position. That and some will be able to play their skills into a subcontractor role or startup their own company.

White collar and management level positions can 'top out' higher, but for every senior level management position making 6 figures with an equity position there are a dozen drones grinding it out under a fluorescent light in cubicle hell.

[Beaks93]

LOL at people thinking only stupid people are in trades.
Played 2 years of college baseball
Made the All academic team
3.4 gpa
decided it wasn't for me
Went to trades college
Wind turbine technician now

[yettiatcpg]

funny thread. I work with guys with 4 year degrees that can't find their own ass with both hands. as is it goes both ways. there are smart and dumb people in all sectors. I have worked for many of both.
some of the smartest people I know never went to high school. they were never corrupted by the system and are very free thinkers.

[TheApathy]

funny thread. I work with guys with 4 year degrees that can't find their own ass with both hands. as is it goes both ways. there are smart and dumb people in all sectors. I have worked for many of both.
some of the smartest people I know never went to high school. they were never corrupted by the system and are very free thinkers.

You're 51 years old and posting on the misc.

Lmao.


Tradesmen make decent money, white collars can top out WAYYYY higher though. You can be a free thinker all you want, that doesn't mean jacksh*t when you have bills to pay.

[yettiatcpg]

You're 51 years old and posting on the misc

what are 11?

[gainztrain818]

guys who build houses don't get paid unless someone buys houses

guys that fix cars don't get paid unless someone buys a car to fix.

I don't have a problem at all with trademen, a man can make a fine living in a trade. But don't get it twisted. The difference between a tradesman and a white collar worker is the white collar guy gets paid for his mind, the blue collar guy gets paid for his back. Tradesmen tend to work themselves into an early grave or early retirement

It's your perception of reality that's twisted.

[gainztrain818]

LOL at people thinking only stupid people are in trades.
Played 2 years of college baseball
Made the All academic team
3.4 gpa
decided it wasn't for me
Went to trades college
Wind turbine technician now

SHHHHH Let them get owned pursuing their white collar fantasy and ending up at Starbucks like 70% of recent college graduates.

[rartuso]

all office jobs will replaced by computers in the future. Look at banking for ex, in a few years a lot of ppl in branches will be replaced by machines. Then what will you do? Brb hey I worked at a bank for 10 years and applying for a trade type job and getting laughed at.

[Tears]

SHHHHH Let them get owned pursuing their white collar fantasy and ending up at Starbucks like 70% of recent college graduates.

You sound butthurt.

[Ace28]

Could care less what the misc thinks is alpha or not. You either enjoy your job or you don't. Some people enjoy office work, some people enjoy using your hands(not all tradesman do physical work). I have done both and they both have plus's and minuses, as long as you make a decent wage and don't dread going to work who cares.

[TheApathy]

SHHHHH Let them get owned pursuing their white collar fantasy and ending up at Starbucks like 70% of recent college graduates.

Brb networking
Brb being in a nice cool office seeing HBBs in high heels everyday
Brb nice dress clothes and watches everyday
Brb an 830 rez at DORSIA

[PostMoves]

interesting thread to peruse

[WSG1]

You're 51 years old and posting on the misc.

Lmao.


Tradesmen make decent money, white collars can top out WAYYYY higher though. You can be a free thinker all you want, that doesn't mean jacksh*t when you have bills to pay.

White collars dont top out way higher. Whoever told you that needs to be slapped. Its most likely your college professor telling you that because they are clueless aswell and youre giving them thousands upon thousands of dollars to sit there and have them tell you a bunch of crap so they are going to tell you everything you want to hear in order to keep you there. Youre most likely to work under someone the rest of your life. Thats your ceiling.

Tradesmen can network, gain partnerships, branch out and create their own business. Youll have your own staff and empire and live VERY good. There is no ceiling for tradesmen. Your motivation and determination is your ceiling. While 95% of white collar workers have to put on a happy face for their supervisors and kiss ass all day because youre so replaceable, Its not even funny.

[WSG1]

Lol shut the fuk up. I was helping build houses at age 16. So easy a caveman could do it, etc

Sure buddy. Im sitting on a computer with my balls hanging out while eating chicken nuggets. This couldnt be anymore easy and brain numbing. Where do i sign up for an office job?

[henrycole]

Brb networking
Brb being in a nice cool office seeing HBBs in high heels everyday
Brb nice dress clothes and watches everyday
Brb an 830 rez at DORSIA

[JAGERBOY]

White collars dont top out way higher. Whoever told you that needs to be slapped. Its most likely your college professor telling you that because they are clueless aswell and youre giving them thousands upon thousands of dollars to sit there and have them tell you a bunch of crap so they are going to tell you everything you want to hear in order to keep you there. Youre most likely to work under someone the rest of your life. Thats your ceiling.

Tradesmen can network, gain partnerships, branch out and create their own business. Youll have your own staff and empire and live VERY good. There is no ceiling for tradesmen. Your motivation and determination is your ceiling. While 95% of white collar workers have to put on a happy face for their supervisors and kiss ass all day because youre so replaceable, Its not even funny.

Pretty sure the comparison is in the scenario that both workers (white collar and blue collar) are working FOR someone. Obviously the possibility to start your own business and have a higher income than being an employee is there for both workers. But in the scenario that both workers remain employees and not business owners, the white collar worker will generally have a higher ceiling.

Blue collars gonna blue collar.

[WSG1]

Pretty sure the comparison is in the scenario that both workers (white collar and blue collar) are working FOR someone. Obviously the possibility to start your own business and have a higher income than being an employee is there for both workers. But in the scenario that both workers remain employees and not business owners, the white collar worker will generally have a higher ceiling.

Blue collars gonna blue collar.

Considering a white collar working creating his own business would be 100x harder than a tradesmen creating his own business using their own respective services, Most white collar workers are STUCK for life being an employee. Thats the difference. A tradesmen is more likely to branch off. They stay an employee, gain networks and partnerships then when you feel like youre ready to move up, You hop on ship to a better paying and nicer job. You cant do that in a white collar world often because most of them are happy they have a job in the first place. Tradesmen bounce around all the time for better jobs.

Hell, I manage to run 2 side businesses on the side that bring in moderate income. I barely put any effort into it and i already have a partnership with another company that is bringing me more business.

[nathan5]

Work manual labour on a building site, you will meet true alpha males. Honest, hard working men.

Well spoken brah. You couldn't have said it any better.

[theben]

Probably because most people in trades are essentially peasants getting screwed by the guys in the offices. Tradesmen break their back doing physical work while making chump change compared to big shot business men. Also the miscs notion that all tradesmen are making figures in their 20s couldnt be further from true, not to mention there's little chance to move up other than starting a business/becoming and independent contractor.

[JAGERBOY]

Considering a white collar working creating his own business would be 100x harder than a tradesmen creating his own business using their own respective services, Most white collar workers are STUCK for life being an employee. Thats the difference. A tradesmen is more likely to branch off. They stay an employee, gain networks and partnerships then when you feel like youre ready to move up, You hop on ship to a better paying and nicer job. You cant do that in a white collar world often because most of them are happy they have a job in the first place. Tradesmen bounce around all the time for better jobs.

Hell, I manage to run 2 side businesses on the side that bring in moderate income. I barely put any effort into it and i already have a partnership with another company that is bringing me more business.

So again you're comparing apples to oranges. Got it.

[DABIGNASTY86]

lol @ tradesman pretending like they chose to be tradesmen. Let's be real here, if you guys were smart enough to get into college and major in a useful major, you wouldn't be out in the fields picking up cotton for us

But what if all the tradesmen gang banged your mom?

[WSG1]

So again you're comparing apples to oranges. Got it.

Well considering white collar and blue collar workers are apples to oranges in the first place, Yes, I am.

[WSG1]

Probably because most people in trades are essentially peasants getting screwed by the guys in the offices. Tradesmen break their back doing physical work while making chump change compared to big shot business men. Also the miscs notion that all tradesmen are making figures in their 20s couldnt be further from true, not to mention there's little chance to move up other than starting a business/becoming and independent contractor.

Oh look, Another clueless moron appears.


I LOVE how most white collar workers ITT are comparing themselves to "big shot business men" while putting down blue collars when 95% of you wont ever leave your cubicle in your life.

So many dreamers in the white collar world. I guess you do alot of that when youre staring at sceens all day waiting for each minute to pass.

[JAGERBOY]

Well considering white collar and blue collar workers are apples to oranges in the first place, Yes, I am.

Well you're just adding even more apples to the situation which doesn't help anyone.