Why am I saying everyone has an eating disorder? (3)

[MASSter]

I'm pretty sure him and I are the only ones who are on it (WP aside, but he's been on it forever) so I don't think it's sweeping the nutmisc. I think the nutrition section for the most part has been very pro-carbs over the past few years and maybe it has just re-positioned more towards a balance.

I will be going on it again shortly I think.

[necon76]

Depends on what your initial levels were. My serotonin has never been that great. Used to take SSRIs, but carbs do help me a bit. For bulking, I haven't done it, but I imagine I'll be doing a CKD and probably big refeeds and just a touch under maintenance on other days. I don't know if I'd realistically think that would do much for you. I'd probably just go a straight surplus or a smaller surplus throughout the week with a carb up. If I was to do it natty, I think I'd do small surplus lifting days, small deficit during, then carb up to really push your surplus. That's a lot of specificity though and I don't know if you'd really wanna even mess with it considering it would be pure theory and likely be basically negligible.

Pretty much what I was thinking. Pretty typical CKD or Anabolic diet type set up.

I assume you are also training heavy as well correct?

Yeah man.

[ErikTheElectric]

390 today on deads, +5lb PR since tuesday.. would be so awesome to get 4 plates by the end of april..

[Gxp23]

Played Dungeon and Dragons until i was about 12-13 (cant remember) then i played more MMO's online, Counter Strike, and then played the final fantasy series.



I dont know if i could ever justify picking up and playing pokemon, Srs.
If any games i would play again would be MMO's, RPG's like Final Fantasy or first person shooters like Counter-Strike.

Still play a bit of FF every now and then for some nostalgia lol, never played counter strike though.

Well it took 10 days, but I'm finally registering ketones. The transition has actually gone really well.

Good job dave man.

[necon76]

Good job dave man.

Thanks man. Turns out I was probably in ketosis earlier than I thought. I'd only been testing first thing in the morning, but my sis suggested to test again later in the day (she does low carb) & sure enough I got a stronger reading than I did in the morning. Either way sh!t is working so I'm happy.

[Gxp23]

Thanks man. Turns out I was probably in ketosis earlier than I thought. I'd only been testing first thing in the morning, but my sis suggested to test again later in the day (she does low carb) & sure enough I got a stronger reading than I did in the morning. Either way sh!t is working so I'm happy.

Good! I only tried it for a short stint myself a few years back, my keto stix only really got to a dark purple stage before I decided to stop and think about whats going to be best for me etc, maybe a possible retry in the future as I do prefer a high fat diet.

[necon76]

Good! I only tried it for a short stint myself a few years back, my keto stix only really got to a dark purple stage before I decided to stop and think about whats going to be best for me etc, maybe a possible retry in the future as I do prefer a high fat diet.

I sat & watched everyone else eat my nephew's chocolate mud birthday cake today & didn't care at all. Not one bit. It was weird.

[Gxp23]

I sat & watched everyone else eat my nephew's chocolate mud birthday cake today & didn't care at all. Not one bit. It was weird.

I dont have much of a sweet tooth, if I ever get in the mood, I usually hit up some ice cream or baked goods lol. Never been much for chocolate or other candy lol.

[necon76]

I dont have much of a sweet tooth, if I ever get in the mood, I usually hit up some ice cream or baked goods lol. Never been much for chocolate or other candy lol.

Mine doesn't strike often, but when it does it's a veritable sugar orgy.

[health4life24]

I dont have much of a sweet tooth, if I ever get in the mood, I usually hit up some ice cream or baked goods lol. Never been much for chocolate or other candy lol.

I don't have a sweet tooth either. Actually the exact opposite. Sweets don't really appeal to me anymore having not eaten them for so long.

[Gxp23]

Mine doesn't strike often, but when it does it's a veritable sugar orgy.

Chocolate milk daily must help me out a lot lol. Fuark, just had a big fry up for the first time in ages. Bloat of peace.

[health4life24]

Chocolate milk daily must help me out a lot lol. Fuark, just had a big fry up for the first time in ages. Bloat of peace.

lol I'm gonna be cooking breakfast soon.

[Gxp23]

lol I'm gonna be cooking breakfast soon.

Srs brah, so full.

[health4life24]

Srs brah, so full.

When I eat I feel full muscle wise.

[necon76]

Chocolate milk daily must help me out a lot lol. Fuark, just had a big fry up for the first time in ages. Bloat of peace.

Man I used to make the biggest Sunday brekkies - full English style with added tater tots & a couple of beers to go with it. Those were the days.

[health4life24]

Man I used to make the biggest Sunday brekkies - full English style with added tater tots & a couple of beers to go with it. Those were the days.

Beer with breakfast?

[necon76]

Beer with breakfast?

Yeah, I used to drink a lot lol. If you've never taken a beer in the shower with you after a long day I highly recommend that too.

[health4life24]

Yeah, I used to drink a lot lol. If you've never taken a beer in the shower with you after a long day I highly recommend that too.

lol I'm not much of a beer person. Never have been.

[WMLifting]

Haven't posted in a couple days here, but on the topic of carbohydrate intake: I believe the carry over effect is very minimal in surplus/deficit conditions. Surplus, you will stay "leaner" but it's going to be minuscule differences in the end. In a deficit, well a net deficit is a deficit. The higher TEF is very small and the higher satiation factor present with a keto/low carb intake could very well make up for it, depending on the individual. For long term adherence I would always say higher fat, moderate protein, and higher fiber carb sources if you choose to include them in any quantities greater than ketosis.

After talking to some other posters as well as reading other sources, I think it would be a good idea to try a HF/LC diet and track performance, satiation, mood, etc. It would also be wise if you don't enjoy carbohydrate rich foods, have a past family history that would make you more susceptible for any type of medical/metabolic condition, or are looking for a easier way to eat a more whole food diet.

On a side note, Necon how is the keto treating you?

Lee, I didn't get to read the last few pages but from the few above ^ I am getting the idea that you are debating a CKD/higher fat intake bulk in general?

[Lvisaa2]

Necon, ketostix aren't reliable. They're subject to things like dehydration. Take a test before cardio and after, I guarantee after you'll receive a darker reading. They can tell you that you're producing ketones, but past that I'd be wary.

Lee, I didn't get to read the last few pages but from the few above ^ I am getting the idea that you are debating a CKD/higher fat intake bulk in general?

Current plan is slight deficit through week with a big refeed weekly. We'll see, since I'll be starting it when I'm stage lean, it might be silly to worry much. I'd ideally like to stay under 10% and get up to around 240ish by next spring. So I'm planning to take it slow like 2-3 lbs a month, but it'll also depend on where I am with my physique. Goal is to do the HW class next summer which means I'd love to be at a stage weight near 225 when I do it.

[theerun]

Yeah, I used to drink a lot lol. If you've never taken a beer in the shower with you after a long day I highly recommend that too.

shower beer is epic. an almost religious experience.

[illiniStrive]

Yeah, I used to drink a lot lol. If you've never taken a beer in the shower with you after a long day I highly recommend that too.

the only times it's ever been necessary for me to have a shower beer has been when i was the last one in the apt to get ready and everybody else had started drinking already

not too relaxing lol

[WMLifting]

Current plan is slight deficit through week with a big refeed weekly. We'll see, since I'll be starting it when I'm stage lean, it might be silly to worry much. I'd ideally like to stay under 10% and get up to around 240ish by next spring. So I'm planning to take it slow like 2-3 lbs a month, but it'll also depend on where I am with my physique. Goal is to do the HW class next summer which means I'd love to be at a stage weight near 225 when I do it.

When is your show? The best of luck to you.

Curious as to how your CKD bulk goes.

[The Solution]

Well after doing some research and help form a friend:

"Dad had a barium swallow because when someone gets dys****ia over the age of 50, there is a high suspicion for eso****eal cancer. However, if he has a history of reflux, a peptic stricture is a lot more likely."

" a 1% chance. The only reason we screen it so heavily is because eso****eal cancer is a death sentence. Your dad doesn't have it if this just popped out of the blue...usually there is progressive dys****ia.

Seeing my dad does have Crohn Disease it is unrelated, but it has a strong genetic connection so if I were you, I'd watch for symptoms like blood in stool or random fevers. Crohn does sharply increase your risk of colon cancer, but your dad is probably getting annual prophylactic colonoscopies so he should be fine as long as he's monitored."

Damn...
Parents had enough, packed up and are heading home.

Still play a bit of FF every now and then for some nostalgia lol, never played counter strike though.

Good job dave man.

Played CS for almost 2 years and played in the CAL League (Cyberathlete Amateur league) online vs other teams
Played in a few lan parties too.

lol I'm not much of a beer person. Never have been.

x2

[MASSter]

Necon, ketostix aren't reliable. They're subject to things like dehydration. Take a test before cardio and after, I guarantee after you'll receive a darker reading. They can tell you that you're producing ketones, but past that I'd be wary

Exactly this^^^Ketostix are pretty useless. Keep a low enough carb level and you will be in ketosis. Everyone falls into the trap of thinking "being in ketosis" is the important part of the diet. It is important mostly because it helps with energy(much more mental clarity for me) and craving reduction. Everyone always stresses about being knocked out of ketosis too. Doesn't matter, continue and you will be back shortly. Keto as with any other diet isn't magic and fat loss depends on caloric deficit but remaining in ketosis will help energy levels and reduce cravings. The longer you run the diet the faster you return to ketosis after a carbup as well. I highly recommend getting Lyle Mcdonald's book for some good info(pricey but worth it). Not a keto expert but I have run it quite a few times. Feel free to shoot questions and hopefully I can answer or if not refer to the book. <End of incoherent rambling.>

[The Solution]

^^ would highly suggest reading his Ultimate Diet 2.0 too if you liked his keto book
Great read as well.

[MASSter]

^^ would highly suggest reading his Ultimate Diet 2.0 too if you liked his keto book
Great read as well.

That is definitely next on the list.

[WMLifting]

This would be my ketogenic online recommendations.

[Lvisaa2]

When is your show? The best of luck to you.

Curious as to how your CKD bulk goes.

July 18th. So I have lots of time. Prep officially starts May 16th, which is 10 weeks out, but I've already started tightening things up a lot over the past week. I want to hopefully be ready a little early and bump calories into the show. When I start prep, though, I'll be changing things so that fat loss should go faster.

Necon, or anyone, let me know if you would like Lyle's book.

[illiniStrive]

July 18th. So I have lots of time. Prep officially starts May 16th, which is 10 weeks out, but I've already started tightening things up a lot over the past week. I want to hopefully be ready a little early and bump calories into the show. When I start prep, though, I'll be changing things so that fat loss should go faster.

Necon, or anyone, let me know if you would like Lyle's book.

Ee, that's exciting! I know you follow Brittany on IG, I think her show is around then (maybe earlier, around June). I just wish you all lived close by so I could go!