Gays must 'leave children in peace" - Russian President Putin

[flairon]

How would people respond if he said something like this:

"arabs are welcome in Russia, but they must not blow something up",
"african-americans are welcome, but they must not engage in gang-activity" or
"asians are welcome, but they must not eat the dogs"

???

sounds good to me

[Spoolme]

Putin should move here and run for president. All the republican nutjobs and rednecks would vote for him. Then we can live in a great country like Russia. No healthcare and no freedom

[Keseff]

sounds good to me

Addressing a whole group on false and negative prejudices isn't really desirable in a modern day society.

[flairon]

Addressing a whole group on false and negative prejudices isn't really desirable in a modern day society.

regardless of what people may tell you, neither is homosexuality, bombings or gang activity.

[sawoobley]

espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2014/story/_/id/10309240/2014-sochi-olympics-gays-leave-children-peace-vladimir-putin-says

My thoughts: Putin is right, in America there is all kinds of left wing brainwashing going on in public schools to glorify homosexuality and demonize anyone who disagrees w/ it. So now disagreeing w/ someone means you "hate" them (according to brainwashed lying liberals). So I guess I hate my gay friends simply because I disagree w/ their lifestyle. When someone drinks and drives too much, their loved one disagrees w/ that behavior. Which according to liberals, means you "hate" them. Ridiculous.

We can't and shouldn't outlaw people speaking about homosexuality but we can ask them to live kids out of it. In the United States the solution IMO lies within the general sentiments of the following article:

Hey, public schools: it’s time for a separation of sex and state - http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/01/...sex-and-state/

Conclusion of the article:

This subject belongs to parents. It is their domain. If they shirk their responsibility, then I feel sorry for their kids. Still, public schools are not surrogate mothers. Lazy, selfish parents might want them to be, but that doesn’t change anything.

So while progressives take the Ten Commandments and the crucifixes out of the schools, I’ll come in right behind them and clean out the condoms and the birth control brochures. And then we can meet in the parking lot and swap. I’ll take my religion home to my kids, and they can take their sexual permissiveness home to theirs.

Meanwhile, the schools can stick to the ABCs and 123s, and we’ll all be better for it.

I think that is what most Americans have in mind with regards to homosexuality.

At least this one has the guts to say what conservatives really believe, rather than all that "love the sinner, hate the sin " BS.

Come on now don't do this to yourself. Taking one example and painting everyone else with it. No wonder a lot of homosexuals still live in fear in 2014.

[brighamw]

I don't get why we are bothering Russia over this. Homosexuality is literally illegal in about 83 countries. We had anti-sodomy laws in several states until a decade ago.

Is our National Security Staff really concerned and wasting time with homosexual propaganda laws in Russia, lol?

Pffft, let me guess, you probably think they should worry about things like securing embassy's and ensuring the safety of American's over seas...

How would people respond if he said something like this:

"arabs are welcome in Russia, but they must not blow something up",
"african-americans are welcome, but they must not engage in gang-activity" or
"asians are welcome, but they must not eat the dogs"

???

sounds good to me

[Keseff]

regardless of what people may tell you, neither is homosexuality.

Luckily the majority of the western world, the western leaders, the western intellectuals and the western people think differently.

[flairon]

Luckily the majority of the western world, the western leaders, the western intellectuals and the western people think differently.

Yeah? Where would that be? In the U.S. the largest most powerful country in the world where its still not fully accepted Or are you talking about sh*thole countries nobody cares about

[Keseff]

Yeah? Where would that be? In the U.S. the largest most powerful country in the world where its still not fully accepted Or are you talking about sh*thole countries nobody cares about

Which western countries do you regard as sh*thole countries?


Read my post again, carefully, and than view this:

[Renegade83]

That you need to ask for them just goes to show how completely and utterly naive you are. Perhaps you should spend less time worrying about me, and a little more time researching a subject matter you have so much to say about.

What I said was factual. Get your chit in order before you demand proof that water is wet please.

Gays don't worry about turds like you because your kind is quickly dying off.

And why is it you turds only focus on GAY MEN and nothing mentioned about GAY WOMEN. It's so hilarious too see a 26 year old man get SO RUSTLED. It must be interesting to live in your world where murdering, ****philic, drug and sex crazed homosexual MEN (only guys are homosexual remember) are lurking behind every corner.

Grow up.

[Carpig]

Luckily the majority of the western world, the western leaders, the western intellectuals and the western people think differently.

acceptance/tolerance is promoted in the west. I'm not sure why you are trying to create and argument out of nothing.

The problem in the west is the legal, government endorsement of these lifestyles.

[Fiyero]

I think that is what most Americans have in mind with regards to homosexuality.

Which just proves most Americans aren't very smart. Gays don't equate with sexual permissiveness and the removal of the 10 Commandments. The 1st Amendment lead to that one.

Come on now don't do this to yourself. Taking one example and painting everyone else with it. No wonder a lot of homosexuals still live in fear in 2014.

Didn't you just do that above by equating homosexuality with sexual permissiveness and the removal of religion, or did I misread you?

[Fiyero]

acceptance/tolerance is promoted in the west. I'm not sure why you are trying to create and argument out of nothing.

The problem in the west is the legal, government endorsement of these lifestyles.

No such thing as the "gay lifestyle". Why shouldn't the government endorse the existence and happiness of millions of its citizens? Just because you hate them?

[Keseff]

acceptance/tolerance is promoted in the west.

Right, basic human right's are usually actively supported in the west.

The problem in the west is the legal, government endorsement of these lifestyles.

No, that's your problem. By the majority of the west it isn't in anyway a problem.

[Carpig]

Right, basic human right's are usually actively supported in the west.



No, that's your problem. By the majority of the west it isn't in anyway a problem.

the most liberal state in the union voted it down twice. I'm not sure you understand what the term "majority" actually means.

[ICrapBig]

Gays don't worry about turds like you because your kind is quickly dying off.

And why is it you turds only focus on GAY MEN and nothing mentioned about GAY WOMEN. It's so hilarious too see a 26 year old man get SO RUSTLED. It must be interesting to live in your world where murdering, ****philic, drug and sex crazed homosexual MEN (only guys are homosexual remember) are lurking behind every corner.

Grow up.

Hate facts are still facts. Sorry they dont support your progressive foolishness. Your feelings are not reality, they are just your feelings

[sawoobley]

Which just proves most Americans aren't very smart. Gays don't equate with sexual permissiveness and the removal of the 10 Commandments. The 1st Amendment lead to that one.

Didn't you just do that above by equating homosexuality with sexual permissiveness and the removal of religion, or did I misread you?

I think you misunderstood the post. The article I cited basically said it would be best if the state didn't teach kids about sex but rather left it up to the parents. The author doesn't want the state to push what he sees as sexual permissiveness and whatever the morality is of the educators who set the curriculum. This isn't directed at homosexuals because most of the permissiveness being taught is about heterosexual relationships.

He was saying just as we have removed the ten commandments and crucifixes out of schools we should also remove condoms and birth control brochures. This is not equating the two but saying as we have done with one so should we do with the other. This does not mean we don't talk about sex at all but rather classes where that is the main focus just as we don't remove the discussion of religion and Christianity when it comes up in our history books.

[Carpig]

No such thing as the "gay lifestyle". Why shouldn't the government endorse the existence and happiness of millions of its citizens? Just because you hate them?

So now the government should endorse feelings with legislation?


What makes "gay feelings" more worthy of legal legitimacy than other feelings?

[MediaDeit]

How would people respond if he said something like this:

"arabs are welcome in Russia, but they must not blow something up",
"african-americans are welcome, but they must not engage in gang-activity" or
"asians are welcome, but they must not eat the dogs"

???

One must not ask the religious right on this board to think critically, their heads will explode.

[Keseff]

the most liberal state in the union voted it down twice.

Which state voted what down and since when is a state a country?

I'm not sure you understand what the term "majority" actually means.

I clearly and repeditly said "the majority of the western world" not the majority of a area/state/country you name. You're taking my words out of context and give them a new meaning to turn the argument in your favor.

[MediaDeit]

It's pretty messed up when the conservatives in here hate gay people so much that they're high fiving the leader of Russia for anti-freedom practices. Disgusting.

This forum has become a breeding ground for right wing extremists. Most posters here are on the wrong side of history and will be looked at with disgust in 30 years as those who were against the civil rights movement are looked at with disgust today.

[Carpig]

Which state voted what down and since when is a state a country?

I clearly and repeditly said "the majority of the western world" not the majority of a area/state/country you name. You're taking my words out of context and give them a new meaning to turn the argument in your favor.

Ok, if you would like to nitpick then I can clarify. The largest and most important nation in the western world does not have the favor of the majority when it comes to the legal endorsement of homosexuality.

[Fiyero]

the most liberal state in the union voted it down twice. I'm not sure you understand what the term "majority" actually means.

I wouldn't consider California the most liberal state. Still has a huge Conservative population, is very diverse, and that decision was pushed by the Mormon Church and the Black community.

I'd say something like Vermont is the most liberal.

[Carpig]

This forum has become a breeding ground for right wing extremists. Most posters here are on the wrong side of history and will be looked at with disgust in 30 years as those who were against the civil rights movement are looked at with disgust today.

Yes, only in liberal la la land does reason and accountability = extremism and hate.

[MediaDeit]

Yeah? Where would that be? In the U.S. the largest most powerful country in the world where its still not fully accepted Or are you talking about sh*thole countries nobody cares about

You can breakup the US, it is the poor counties, the uneducated counties, the dumb, the religious counties, this is where it isn't accepted. The educated, the developed, the leaders are accepting.

[MediaDeit]

Yes, only in liberal la la land does reason and accountability = extremism and hate.

Reason an accountability is based only within your fairy tale book. For everyone else it is based on understanding, on science, on critical thinking, basically everything the right dismisses.

[MinisterOfLust]

Russia is a badass country.

[Carpig]

Reason an accountability is based only within your fairy tale book. For everyone else it is based on understanding, on science, on critical thinking, basically everything the right dismisses.

You really are quite the moron. I've stated multiple times on this board that I am not religious in the least.

And it is quite rich that everything you post not just runs, but full on sprints away from anything that resembles reason and critical thinking.

[wings_unhinged]

Russia gonna Russia

[Renegade83]

Russia is a badass country.

Have you been there?