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    I've squatted 255X5 Atg, most ppl attempting 225 do 1/83934849th squats so 225 ATG is good not amazing
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    I have issues getting out of the hole, right about at parallel. So if I stop just below parallel it makes it that much harder. ATG I build momentum from the bottom. Sounds strange, but I just have a sticking point in the middle.

    Been doing hip thrusts thinking that maybe extra glute strength will help.
    You are more than likely VERY VERY VERY quad dominant. It happens in some athletes. At about parallel your hamstring are at maximum extension as you sit back, they began to lose tension the deeper you go and your quads go into extension and build a stretch reflex when going ATG.

    You probably have extremely weak hamstrings and glutes if your having trouble moving more weight with parallel squats as opposed to ATG (barring any technique issues you may not be aware of)

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    The fuk you keep your back so upright?

    Dunno if it's weak leg/ankle flexibility or what, but I can't hold myself in that position
    Core strength/breaking at the knees first/mobility+flexability
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    Just highly doubt anyone that squats about two plates can actually do it ATG.

    After realizing how bad my flexibility was on squats (i did two plates thinking I was the chit), I stopped doing squats and worked on flexibility.


    I am now a snob in the gym. I look at most people squatting and just cringe. Its so obvious how non flexible they are. I'm sure the misc is the exact same way.


    Just check out this video down below. The old man is probably more flexible than 99% of the misc. Watch 2:00 in exactly.

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    It's impressive for people who don't have the flexibility to atg in the first place. But if you do, it's not really that impressive. I've been barely lifting the past 4-5 months, like 2 or 3 times per month, and I can still do 225 atg pretty easily.
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    Originally Posted by apolloman View Post
    You are more than likely VERY VERY VERY quad dominant. It happens in some athletes. At about parallel your hamstring are at maximum extension as you sit back, they began to lose tension the deeper you go and your quads go into extension and build a stretch reflex when going ATG.

    You probably have extremely weak hamstrings and glutes if your having trouble moving more weight with parallel squats as opposed to ATG (barring any technique issues you may not be aware of)
    Thanks for the info (poverty reps). Should probably add RDL's back into my routine then.
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    Rarely see anybody go parallel (real parallel not hams parallel) over 185.

    Honestly just seeing atg is impressive even if its only a plate lol.

    225 atg is my working set, I think 1rm I hit 275 but I might have been helped. My brother was spotting me and he touched my elbows but he said he didn't actually help me lol.

    I always go hips below knees too, regardless of weight. Lots of assistance work helps with strength.
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    I squat 315 to the depth of my avi for sets of 8 in the gym and when I'm home from college (small town), I get approached every single workout for squatting advice srs.
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    Also some of you guys don't realize that some people are simply not built for that 'ATG looking' squat no matter how flexible they are. Look at Lu Xiaojun squat for instance. He's probably more flexible than 99.9% of the miscers but his squat doesn't completely look ATG compared to guys like Clarence Kennedy. But that depth is still ATG for him while he maintains straight torso angle. So, if you think everyone can touch their upper hamstring to calves with enough flexibility then you are wrong.

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    Got this a couple months ago.



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    Originally Posted by Highlander93 View Post
    Squatted this a couple of days ago after 2.4356 years of lifting.




    you mirin?
    have some ****ing standards bro
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    I view 405+ full ROM as impressive just because i do 405 ATG. But i respect anyone doing full ROM ATG squats no matter what the weight. It shows that they value form over weight and ego.
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    Originally Posted by cmzwirner View Post
    I view 405+ full ROM as impressive just because i do 405 ATG. But i respect anyone doing full ROM ATG squats no matter what the weight. It shows that they value form over weight and ego.
    So do you automatically assume someone's just stroking their ego when you see them do partial squat with heavy weight?
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    The highest I've done is in my sig, and that was just below parallel. When I did it, half the people in the gym were staring. 225 is considered impressive anywhere except misc.
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    Originally Posted by hostelmaniac View Post
    225 is god status in a commercial gym. on the misc no e stat its childs play. lots of people on here squat 315+ for reps
    Lol this is true and sad. i know if i see someone squat 225+ with good form and depth they likely have put time into researching the movement.
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    Originally Posted by bambarby View Post
    It's pretty chit srs. "Impressive or respectable" starts at 3 plates for me.
    This.
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    Originally Posted by brahgod View Post
    Divebombed the **** out of squats, got 200kgx5. Started doing paused squats, got 200kgx2 in a few weeks. Did I **** up?
    u did right


    i was reffering to my own knees... dive bomb squat.. no thanks jefferon
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    Originally Posted by RemedySC View Post
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    Decent depth but why do you break at the hips first?
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    nowhere near impressive impo

    I'm at 275 right now 3x4 atg,

    i wanna get to 3pl
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    Originally Posted by likeawashboard View Post
    Decent depth but why do you break at the hips first?
    Aren't you supposed to?
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    Different for everyone, some people can squat that the first time they do squats others can't even do the bar, that's why I think it's do retarded to say you should be at such and such a weight easily in a month or whatever
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    Originally Posted by likeawashboard View Post
    Decent depth but why do you break at the hips first?
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    Aren't you supposed to?
    ^That. Everything I have read has mentioned to focus on the hip movement, and the knees will move naturally.
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    Originally Posted by RemedySC View Post
    ^That. Everything I have read has mentioned to focus on the hip movement, and the knees will move naturally.
    depends on proportions and what stance you're using though. Your stance does look pretty narrow so you probably shouldn't emphasise the throwing your hips back just as much, your knees are still ending up past your toes anyway because of stance width.
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    Originally Posted by E-Tank View Post
    imo a good form atg squat is impressive at any weight
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    60kgs atg squat with good form > 140kg 1/4 squat
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    Originally Posted by RemedySC View Post
    ^That. Everything I have read has mentioned to focus on the hip movement, and the knees will move naturally.
    Honestly it depends on your goals and what your looking for.

    Since I do a lot of Olympic lifting, I focus on breaking at the knees and hips at nearly the same time (maybe knees slightly ahead). If you look at a squatter who leads with their hips, in order to maintain a neutral spine, they must tilt the truck forward, loading your hamstrings and glutes with the weight (at least to parallel) this is how you see most powerlifters squat. Again, not wrong, it just depends on your goal.

    The reason why I, and a lot of Oly lifters focus on breaking at the knees is this forces you to keep your back vertical. A vertical back is essential in receiving the bar in the Clean and the Snatch. Any tilt in your trunk is going to lead to dumping the bar forward when trying to receive it.

    To become good at the O-lifts, any movement you do must mimic the clean and snatch as much as possible since the lifts test not only strength but neuro-muscular efficiency.

    I think what most people do (and when I say most I mean actual lifters) is a hybrid style squat which is High bar/lead with the hips/trunk tilts a bit/Natural Bottom out position

    There is nothing wrong with any form, again, it just depends on your goals and what your looking for.
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    Noone squats or deadlifts at my gym really, however regardless of what weight someone is using, if theyre going ass to grass im impressed. If were talking about with regards to weight, 405+ is impressive to me since I can nearly do that
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    I don't really think so. To give you an idea my arms unflexed unpumped are 12.5 inch. Phucking noodle pencil arms bro and I get 225 for 4 sets of 8 ATG
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    225 isn't very impressive, srs no misc standards. anybody can get to that within a year of squatting.

    315 is when it starts getting good
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