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    Before COVID shut gyms down, I used to low bar squat with a regular(29mm) bar and had shoulder/bicep pain regularly. Was wondering if switching to a 32mm squat bar will make it go away, since I heard it digs in less. Have you had any experience with the squat bars or would you now recommend the Duffalo bar instead?
    For me, diameter only makes it whip less. But you'll only notice that when it gets heavy enough. My shoulder pain is more pronounced on warmup sets where my shoulder is less "mobile". Eventually it works its way loose and kind of numbs. I regret it next day. So no, if you have same issue as me (frozen shoulder), what really helps is having hands lower and wider.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    I use a monolift (actual monolift, not the rack mounted versions) with the hooks/arms in so it's not an issue. You could use roller j-cups, just be careful it doesn't slide when you load it.
    Yeah, I now have a set of roller Jcups which would likely work better, but at the time when I decided to move on from the Duffalo, I just had standard Jcups and I was trying to get a set of offset ones made but just never happened and I just decided that the Buffalo Bar sat better in standard Jcups and decided to just keep that one instead. I would probably look at getting another Duffalo Bar again for the right price.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    For me, diameter only makes it whip less. But you'll only notice that when it gets heavy enough. My shoulder pain is more pronounced on warmup sets where my shoulder is less "mobile". Eventually it works its way loose and kind of numbs. I regret it next day. So no, if you have same issue as me (frozen shoulder), what really helps is having hands lower and wider.
    For your shoulder pain, have you tried Donnie Thompson's shoulder mobility work right before lifting?

    Last time when I hurt my shoulder pretty bad, I would do that before each workout and it was magic.

    It's like an 8 minute video on youtube with a few different band exercises and one laying on the ground with a kettlebell.

    Combined with some major soft tissue work (I love that acumobility blue snow cone looking thing and the blue orb massage ball) and I was good to go.
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    Originally Posted by TunaGill View Post
    For your shoulder pain, have you tried Donnie Thompson's shoulder mobility work right before lifting?

    Last time when I hurt my shoulder pretty bad, I would do that before each workout and it was magic.

    It's like an 8 minute video on youtube with a few different band exercises and one laying on the ground with a kettlebell.

    Combined with some major soft tissue work (I love that acumobility blue snow cone looking thing and the blue orb massage ball) and I was good to go.
    Yes, I've used it. Shoulder is basically ok as long as I'm not stupid with it. I can squat with a straight bar still, I just prefer the buffalo. But I will return to a squat bar every once in a while. Just not for long periods of time. Benching... never bothered it.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    For me, diameter only makes it whip less. But you'll only notice that when it gets heavy enough. My shoulder pain is more pronounced on warmup sets where my shoulder is less "mobile". Eventually it works its way loose and kind of numbs. I regret it next day. So no, if you have same issue as me (frozen shoulder), what really helps is having hands lower and wider.
    One more question if you don’t mind answering. Does the Duffalo bar alter the movement pattern compared to low bar squat? I read reviews that said weight gets thrown forward due to the camber and feels more like an SSB squat.
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    Originally Posted by darpr View Post
    One more question if you don’t mind answering. Does the Duffalo bar alter the movement pattern compared to low bar squat? I read reviews that said weight gets thrown forward due to the camber and feels more like an SSB squat.
    Lol, anyone who says it's like an ssb squat has never used an ssb or a buffalo bar. No, it remains a low bar squat.
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    Originally Posted by darpr View Post
    One more question if you don’t mind answering. Does the Duffalo bar alter the movement pattern compared to low bar squat? I read reviews that said weight gets thrown forward due to the camber and feels more like an SSB squat.
    It does pull you forward, not to similar to a ssb, but definitely not a low bar squat
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    So, something a bit different. My gym (in garage) is basically overflowing. And a lot of it is a bunch of kettlebells and fatbells laying on the floor. I don't have a free wall to put up storage racks. But I do have some space under the stairs that is basically useless for anything except storage. So I removed all the toolboxes that used to live there and made myself a rolling platform that slides in an out. 1.5" square tube frame, plywood, textured PVC top layer and some PVC molding (added some to one side also to slide against the stair column and guide it). Then mounted these casters https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...R052LOZQ&psc=1 . No swivel, so it slides in and out like a drawer. I have 895 lbs on it now, lol.
    KBs: 15, 20, 25 pair, 30 pair, 35 pair, 40 pair, 44 pair, 53 pair (one missing in photo), 62, 70, 80.
    Fatbells: 44 pair, 53 pair. I still have a 62 and a 70 out on the floor, I'll figure something out. Maybe another "drawer" higher up for the small ones to make room that way


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    @Mech6, what are your thoughts on the mutant metals roller monolift attachments?

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    Originally Posted by mrcheeze36 View Post
    @Mech6, what are your thoughts on the mutant metals roller monolift attachments?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CT78axXr...dium=copy_link
    The spring return is nice, if it's consistent and reliable. But the arms are VERY wide. No reason they can't bring those down to 1" wide, which is what most actual monolifts measure. And they seem short, I'd be curious to see what the actual clearance is when you factor in the severe angle and the height of the front lip.
    Roller cups could be a nice feature.
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    Originally Posted by mrcheeze36 View Post
    @Mech6, what are your thoughts on the mutant metals roller monolift attachments?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CT78axXr...dium=copy_link
    Interesting. Watching the bench video, they don't seem to swing very far out of the way but I haven't used monolifts. Maybe it's sufficient.

    Edit: There's more info on their site, including pricing. $485 is a pass from me.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    The spring return is nice, if it's consistent and reliable. But the arms are VERY wide. No reason they can't bring those down to 1" wide, which is what most actual monolifts measure. And they seem short, I'd be curious to see what the actual clearance is when you factor in the severe angle and the height of the front lip.
    Roller cups could be a nice feature.
    Any way to modify your monos to add the roller cups?

    I have 2 pairs of them and only thing I'd like to change is having a roller feature.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    The spring return is nice, if it's consistent and reliable. But the arms are VERY wide. No reason they can't bring those down to 1" wide, which is what most actual monolifts measure. And they seem short, I'd be curious to see what the actual clearance is when you factor in the severe angle and the height of the front lip.
    Roller cups could be a nice feature.
    Yeah not sure why they made the arms so wide…the Ghost monolift arms have rollers and they look to be 1” or so.

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    Originally Posted by TunaGill View Post
    Any way to modify your monos to add the roller cups?

    I have 2 pairs of them and only thing I'd like to change is having a roller feature.
    I haven't really put much thought into it because I realized roller cups would be a real pain with my buffalo bar (my hooks are narrowly spaced, I grip wide). Would make loading the bar a real challenge.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    I haven't really put much thought into it because I realized roller cups would be a real pain with my buffalo bar (my hooks are narrowly spaced, I grip wide). Would make loading the bar a real challenge.
    Sounds like it's time to create the Mech6 spring-loaded buffalo roller monolifts with automatic hydraulic balancing doohickeys.

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    Originally Posted by mrcheeze36 View Post
    @Mech6, what are your thoughts on the mutant metals roller monolift attachments?

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    Not mech, but given the size of them and the limited clearance I assume these would be really rough to use for squat
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    Originally Posted by cwcmac View Post
    Not mech, but given the size of them and the limited clearance I assume these would be really rough to use for squat
    Griffin Fitness is coming out with compact monolift attachments that look similar in design to the ATX ones (Griffin lists the monos have a tension spring mechanism and catch hook). The ATX monolift pair are rated to handle up to 300kgs.

    Mutant metals responded in discord with the following when asked about the difference between MMs monos and ATX.

    “I can only comment on what I can see since I don’t have any direct experience with these. The atx use a linear spring we’re mine is a torsion spring. Not really a big difference in functionality in the spring mech, torsion may be quicker but again I can’t confirm that. Obviously the snap backs have the roller and the ability to be fixed in a j cup position. The atx is probably lighter by looking at it, looks to be 1/4in possibly, hard to tell.”





    They are also coming out with adjustable lever arms and has the ability to lock the arms into multiple positions.

    Mech: is that what you were talking about before when I asked how to go about locking the lever arms in certain positions to do different movements (preventing them from going lower than the set position)?

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    Mech6, you still willing to fab parts you already designed?

    I might be interested in some offset J-cups, and liked what I saw pages back in this thread.
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    Originally Posted by mrcheeze36 View Post
    Griffin Fitness is coming out with compact monolift attachments that look similar in design to the ATX ones (Griffin lists the monos have a tension spring mechanism and catch hook). The ATX monolift pair are rated to handle up to 300kgs.

    Mutant metals responded in discord with the following when asked about the difference between MMs monos and ATX.

    “I can only comment on what I can see since I don’t have any direct experience with these. The atx use a linear spring we’re mine is a torsion spring. Not really a big difference in functionality in the spring mech, torsion may be quicker but again I can’t confirm that. Obviously the snap backs have the roller and the ability to be fixed in a j cup position. The atx is probably lighter by looking at it, looks to be 1/4in possibly, hard to tell.”





    They are also coming out with adjustable lever arms and has the ability to lock the arms into multiple positions.

    Mech: is that what you were talking about before when I asked how to go about locking the lever arms in certain positions to do different movements (preventing them from going lower than the set position)?

    Hard to see, but something like that.
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    Originally Posted by vristang View Post
    Mech6, you still willing to fab parts you already designed?

    I might be interested in some offset J-cups, and liked what I saw pages back in this thread.
    If not, is there another place to find something like this?
    No, the fab part is what I lack time for. I'd rather design parts for someone else to fabricate, if that was possible.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    No, the fab part is what I lack time for. I'd rather design parts for someone else to fabricate, if that was possible.
    Thanks
    I just passed your info to Weider and Bowflex. The only caveat is you have to have plastic in everything and can only use 16 gauge steel
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    Originally Posted by cwcmac View Post
    I just passed your info to Weider and Bowflex. The only caveat is you have to have plastic in everything and can only use 16 gauge steel
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    Hard to see, but something like that.
    Hey, Mr. Mech6, would you be up for joining the Homegym discord server? It’s another forum, but a little more fast paced and I think a lot of active members (11k last count) that would love to talk about your designs. If you’re up for it, here’s the link.

    discord. gg/homegym

    If you do join, message one of the moderators when you’re in, and we’d be happy to explain how it works.
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    So we scrapped some machinery at work and one of them had a 20' length of 5.5"OD, 5/8"wall tubing. Cut myself some 2' sections and deburred the ends. Took me a while to get rid of the 1/8" layer of caked on axle grease. Had to use acid. Turns out they're galvanized, lol, they were completely black when I took it apart.
    So anyways, these are basically my new tempering rollers (search Donnie Thompson or rogue). Why? Not sure, but why not? They weigh in at 60lbs but I can add weight to one of them in the future if needed.
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    I didn't know what a tempering roller was so here's the link for the similarly uneducated:
    https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-dt-tempering-roller

    Nice pick-up!
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    Originally Posted by radrd View Post
    I didn't know what a tempering roller was so here's the link for the similarly uneducated:
    https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-dt-tempering-roller

    Nice pick-up!
    Thanks. I often forget not everyone on here is falling apart just trying to find new ways to stay in one piece a bit longer and squeeze out a PR every once in a while
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    Thanks. I often forget not everyone on here is falling apart just trying to find new ways to stay in one piece a bit longer and squeeze out a PR every once in a while
    Oh, I'm definitely falling apart. Elbow pain is my newest problem - I just got my golfer's elbow fixed and now it's tennis elbow lol. No doubt I'll be looking into tempering rollers for some ailment at some point.
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    Originally Posted by radrd View Post
    I didn't know what a tempering roller was so here's the link for the similarly uneducated:
    https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-dt-tempering-roller

    Nice pick-up!
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    Thanks. I often forget not everyone on here is falling apart just trying to find new ways to stay in one piece a bit longer and squeeze out a PR every once in a while
    X2. I though my homemade trigger roller was one of my best friend's these days. I can see that I'll have to step up and make one of these tempering rollers next and try it for the "in-between" ailments that the trigger roller doesn't cover. Thanks for posting!
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    Thanks. I often forget not everyone on here is falling apart just trying to find new ways to stay in one piece a bit longer and squeeze out a PR every once in a while
    I've been referring to this as the "duct tape" phase of life. Been here for a while.

    On the flip side a shoulder injury that's been bothering me for about 18 months actually seems to be resolving itself and I'm benching without much in the way of pain again though I have no idea why as I'd kind of given up. Had figured it was another small labrum tear or something.

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