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[phosaken]

you could sub one of those for wood samurai dragon masamune, 810 weighted stats of 4k hp, 1.4k atk and 200 rcv with 19 turn active for attacker 1.3x for 2 turns and do 30x wood dmg to all enemies, only brings a skill boost and enhance orb as awakenings tho.

plus his artwork looks awesome

[xsylisx]

yes i overlooked the artwork aspect lol.

[JoshSP1985]

The real question about forming teams like that is are they better than anything you currently have? How difficult are they to assemble?

[krs128]

how do row enhance damage increases work? im just thinking, say you had a perfect board, and had 3 rows of Dark orbs, would Loki with is 1.5x damage active and 2 row enhances (and better stats) add more damage then Baddie with his 3x active on a Sonia team? because that is 20% more damage for each row... just curious if Loki is able to surpass Baddie's burst with rows

[dryst]

I gave up on liu bei as a lead...ur choices are limited and to be honest over all u won't be able to keep up with spike teams like kirin or u&y in damage.

I rolled about 8 times and had 3 liu bei's and a cao cao which looking back a team full of luci bei's would be pretty cool but I just rerolled and am waiting for the next god fest because of how handicapped I would have been late game sub wise being non iap on jap

[JoshSP1985]

how do row enhance damage increases work? im just thinking, say you had a perfect board, and had 3 rows of Dark orbs, would Loki with is 1.5x damage active and 2 row enhances (and better stats) add more damage then Baddie with his 3x active on a Sonia team? because that is 20% more damage for each row... just curious if Loki is able to surpass Baddie's burst with rows

20% damage is equivalent of 1.2X Baddie is 3X

The 2 row enhances from loki if you made a perfect 3 dark rows would be 1.6X dark damage (1.2 for each row with 2 total dark row enhance on the team)

So no, you would need 10 row enhances on the team and 3 full dark rows to equal the same damage gain as baddie. and that's just counting dark damage, baddie would also enhance any other devil colors on the team.

Baddie is the single best damage spike card you can use until you get a LuBu

[KokuDES]

20% damage is equivalent of 1.2X Baddie is 3X

The 2 row enhances from loki if you made a perfect 3 dark rows would be 1.6X dark damage (1.2 for each row with 2 total dark row enhance on the team)

So no, you would need 10 row enhances on the team and 3 full dark rows to equal the same damage gain as baddie. and that's just counting dark damage, baddie would also enhance any other devil colors on the team.

Baddie is the single best damage spike card you can use until you get a LuBu

row enhance is additive not multiplicative???




aw fuk bye

[krs128]

20% damage is equivalent of 1.2X Baddie is 3X

The 2 row enhances from loki if you made a perfect 3 dark rows would be 1.6X dark damage (1.2 for each row with 2 total dark row enhance on the team)

So no, you would need 10 row enhances on the team and 3 full dark rows to equal the same damage gain as baddie. and that's just counting dark damage, baddie would also enhance any other devil colors on the team.

Baddie is the single best damage spike card you can use until you get a LuBu

yea I completely over looked Sonia being primary red and she hits like a truck. I figured baddie was better was just curious by how much once you factored in everything else, doesn't really matter I roll with both Baddie and Loki right now.

[dryst]

yea I completely over looked Sonia being primary red and she hits like a truck. I figured baddie was better was just curious by how much once you factored in everything else, doesn't really matter I roll with both Baddie and Loki right now.

That's what I do, loki 1.5x dark dmg will help clear any floors leading up to the boss and then pop baddie on the boss and clean house...I can't see getting rid of loki unless they put out a better devil sub and of course would switch baddie for a lu bu in a fuggin heart beat

[xsylisx]

I gave up on liu bei as a lead...ur choices are limited and to be honest over all u won't be able to keep up with spike teams like kirin or u&y in damage.

I rolled about 8 times and had 3 liu bei's and a cao cao which looking back a team full of luci bei's would be pretty cool but I just rerolled and am waiting for the next god fest because of how handicapped I would have been late game sub wise being non iap on jap

well i admit the options are VERY limited, but in my analysis, im assuming you have access to anything, since ideal teams for anything else assume the same, its just liu bei requires repeats, which is why im wondering about the effectiveness of it, opposed to the ease of assembly... (also note on my jp name i have 3 liu bei's so yea...)

also as for Josh and the question of is it more effective than what is out right now.
oddly enough, i would think so... i mean you would have much more power than any Sonia team, almost an entire crew of orb changers to keep the attacks coming, the HP to tank a big hit. u can take upto 14584dmg and remain in active LS range, 18584 dmg if u have gaia active up. the fact that u dont need to match rows to get the 7.5x boost makes ur more stable on the dmg output front than hero teams.
i think certain teams surpass it in area's, but potentially liu bei x uvo sasuke could be the most effective overall, though at this point it is all theorycrafting.

[phosaken]

I gave up on liu bei as a lead...ur choices are limited and to be honest over all u won't be able to keep up with spike teams like kirin or u&y in damage.

I rolled about 8 times and had 3 liu bei's and a cao cao which looking back a team full of luci bei's would be pretty cool but I just rerolled and am waiting for the next god fest because of how handicapped I would have been late game sub wise being non iap on jap

is this why i dont see you refreshing on my friendlist anymore? bah so what was your new reroll starter? friend me and send me lvl 20 gift? lol

the problem with lui bei/ cao cao is that the majority of the best attackers are REM only... there is only a few that would be considered usable/farmable which are the mythical beast series and maybe the samurai dragon series and a few other pieces like lillith which would require angelits..

20% damage is equivalent of 1.2X Baddie is 3X

The 2 row enhances from loki if you made a perfect 3 dark rows would be 1.6X dark damage (1.2 for each row with 2 total dark row enhance on the team)

So no, you would need 10 row enhances on the team and 3 full dark rows to equal the same damage gain as baddie. and that's just counting dark damage, baddie would also enhance any other devil colors on the team.

Baddie is the single best damage spike card you can use until you get a LuBu

and to go on about row enhances, most people on pad forums did the math and unless you got atleast 3 rows enhances, its always better to go for 2 x 3 orb combos than 1 6 orb row. so in the case of sonia's active, try to make as many combos as possible until you get atleast 3+ row enhances, but with enough lvls on your team + baddies 3x active without atleast 3 row enhances and while making rows with sonia's active wont make that much of a difference when you one shot the boss. I guess it does somewhat matter to make atleast 3 combos from sonia's active board and not 2 big clump of red and black for total of 2 combos.

[krs128]

is this why i dont see you refreshing on my friendlist anymore? bah so what was your new reroll starter? friend me and send me lvl 20 gift? lol



and to go on about row enhances, most people on pad forums did the math and unless you got atleast 3 rows enhances, its always better to go for 2 x 3 orb combos than 1 6 orb row. so in the case of sonia's active, try to make as many combos as possible until you get atleast 3+ row enhances, but with enough lvls on your team + baddies 3x active without atleast 3 row enhances and while making rows with sonia's active wont make that much of a difference when you one shot the boss. I guess it does somewhat matter to make atleast 3 combos from sonia's active board and not 2 big clump of red and black for total of 2 combos.

that's good to know, I have 3 currently on my Sonia team, soon to be 4 or 5, depending how I spend my last 3 Tamadras. When I use Sonia, majority of the time I have at least 1 row of each fire/dark and then end with a combo of 4-7 after sky falls are all said and done. I'm gonna try to OHKO RK in a bit, should be easy, I never tried yet though.

[phosaken]

that's good to know, I have 3 currently on my Sonia team, soon to be 4 or 5, depending how I spend my last 3 Tamadras. When I use Sonia, majority of the time I have at least 1 row of each fire/dark and then end with a combo of 4-7 after sky falls are all said and done. I'm gonna try to OHKO RK in a bit, should be easy, I never tried yet though.

when my team didnt have the row enhances, i always tried for making rows from sonia's active anyways to get in the habit of getting better at making rows from all the funky distribution it did. Many people have cleared legend difficulty using sonia and farmable subs without row enhances due to baddies 3x active.. the row enhances are just extra icing on the cake to make l33t numbers pop up or allow underlvled teams to ohko bosses.

[dryst]

is this why i dont see you refreshing on my friendlist anymore? bah so what was your new reroll starter? friend me and send me lvl 20 gift? lol

the problem with lui bei/ cao cao is that the majority of the best attackers are REM only... there is only a few that would be considered usable/farmable which are the mythical beast series and maybe the samurai dragon series and a few other pieces like lillith which would require angelits..



and to go on about row enhances, most people on pad forums did the math and unless you got atleast 3 rows enhances, its always better to go for 2 x 3 orb combos than 1 6 orb row. so in the case of sonia's active, try to make as many combos as possible until you get atleast 3+ row enhances, but with enough lvls on your team + baddies 3x active without atleast 3 row enhances and while making rows with sonia's active wont make that much of a difference when you one shot the boss. I guess it does somewhat matter to make atleast 3 combos from sonia's active board and not 2 big clump of red and black for total of 2 combos.

Sitting at the rem pull on jp waiting for a godfest to pop up lol...

[Vindicate]

evo'd up 5 COC archers to flame archers for Freyr skill up


went 0/5...goodnight sweet stamina and red keepers wasted.

RAGEEEEEEEEE

[krs128]

evo'd up 5 COC archers to flame archers for Freyr skill up


went 0/5...goodnight sweet stamina and red keepers wasted.

RAGEEEEEEEEE

im about to waste all stam on the room of mask dungeon tomorrow, for purple evolution masks and violet demon masks to level up 14 Crazy Cathy's for attempts to skill up Anubis. whos to say I will even get the masks I want.. shall be the biggest waste of stam ever.

[phosaken]

ahhh they trolled me on leilans new ultimate.. she gets attacker subtype not healer when going the F/L route.. but dam dem awakenings adding in light row enhance, 2 prong attack and skill boost. Not understanding the new leaderskill tho of the other F/W balance type seems like she gets 3.5x if she matches fire,wood, light or hearts which makes it easier to activate... but the F/L doest get that easier activation?

pretty bummed about being attacker subtype tho.. guess she could use king flamie instead of king shynee for burst but dam.. a light attacker = L/W omega holy sky dragon shangra-la meets both light and wood or L/D dragon rider or L rei&eva.. kinda limited options. probably best bet would be leilan, shangra-la, WD Ares, Misato, king flamie.. 4 rows with leilan friend.. could use asuka or even cao cao.

Wood option attacker eh only sasuke or griffin.. possibility of lui bei.. Guess people will still stick to fire row enhance leilan team instead.. or maybe a balance king woodsie burst team, which looks to be only leilan, verche, cu chu, PKH, king woodsie with 2 fire row enhances on the team from both leilans.

Guess building any of the above leilan team for me is a zero priority since i never rolled the EVA REM for asuka or misato , ill stick to my fire row team since the subs are part of my lillith attacker team / shiva fire team and ill be leveling them next. which will be leilan, angelion, ares, shiva, ifrit, leilan. 7 rows enhances, good orb changers to allow alot of red orbs for making rows.

[Navillus13]

why did leilan get an ultimate but karin and byakko didnt?

I actually have all 3.. leilan is my lowest priority sofar though. maybe i should use her more lol.

[armored]

Thoughts on Cerberus on a Sonia team?

Would be Sonia/baddie/ifrit(future)/Cerberus/hades

4 dark rows, 4 fire rows, 7 skill boosts. But only thing that turns me off is his negative rcv.

[xsylisx]

Thoughts on Cerberus on a Sonia team?

Would be Sonia/baddie/ifrit(future)/Cerberus/hades

4 dark rows, 4 fire rows, 7 skill boosts. But only thing that turns me off is his negative rcv.

eh, does his negative rcv matter when ur 6.25x rcv? ... i kno ifrit, sonia, and baddie arent exactly good rcv donors, but even with just hades at 6.25, and the little the rest give, it should be akin to a normal team with ~2x rcv no? ... i guess its a matter of if u need power or the ability to stall.. i think cerb is best as a niche sub, only for dungeons that allow it... definitely not a good member for something like Zues-Dios.
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also new uvo's.... no one gets better... Ame no Uzume, gets kicked in the sack like L.Meta, Leilan gets slightly better with easier activation, and alil better as a sub with new awakenings.... golems... well they still suck, seriously their 3x condition ls is nice for mid-game, but the fact that u need 3 gold keepers to evo them makes em useless, since u need a better leader to get the mats to evo them, and if u already have a better team, why bother?

[-Gin-]

New survey dungeon with wicked lady will prove useful as I recently acquired a Persephone. Hopefully will be able to max skill her

[JoshSP1985]

That's what I do, loki 1.5x dark dmg will help clear any floors leading up to the boss and then pop baddie on the boss and clean house...I can't see getting rid of loki unless they put out a better devil sub and of course would switch baddie for a lu bu in a fuggin heart beat

Really the only thing right now that trumps Loki for a dark based team is FA Lucifer and that's situational and if you're running a dark based team I would use them both.

[Vindicate]

im about to waste all stam on the room of mask dungeon tomorrow, for purple evolution masks and violet demon masks to level up 14 Crazy Cathy's for attempts to skill up Anubis. whos to say I will even get the masks I want.. shall be the biggest waste of stam ever.

im still 0/whatever ive fed...i think 4 or 5 for Anubis

but i really want that max skilled freyr

i cant imagine what skill up success is not during a 2x event

[JoshSP1985]

im still 0/whatever ive fed...i think 4 or 5 for Anubis

but i really want that max skilled freyr

i cant imagine what skill up success is not during a 2x event

Never feed outside of 2X unless it's something like attack stance fire or guard stance water basically stuff random trash has and I would still only feed if I ran out of box space.

[phosaken]

why did leilan get an ultimate but karin and byakko didnt?

I actually have all 3.. leilan is my lowest priority sofar though. maybe i should use her more lol.

the other chinese girls are going to get an ulti. they started with Kirin, and now leilan, i think genbu or karin is next while byakko will probably be last.

Thoughts on Cerberus on a Sonia team?

Would be Sonia/baddie/ifrit(future)/Cerberus/hades

4 dark rows, 4 fire rows, 7 skill boosts. But only thing that turns me off is his negative rcv.

eh, does his negative rcv matter when ur 6.25x rcv? ... i kno ifrit, sonia, and baddie arent exactly good rcv donors, but even with just hades at 6.25, and the little the rest give, it should be akin to a normal team with ~2x rcv no? ... i guess its a matter of if u need power or the ability to stall.. i think cerb is best as a niche sub, only for dungeons that allow it... definitely not a good member for something like Zues-Dios.
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I use cerberus on my sonia team because i dont have any other good dark monster with row enhance, plus his active is nice for farming KOG and hes maxed lvled. Yes his neg RCV does suck (but -100 rcv isnt that bad when getting 6.25x) it just means you need to hit more additional combos to heal the same as it would be if you had a monster in there that has normal rcv. My total rcv on my ronia team is 728 before Ronia friend's RCV. Once his ulti goes live on NA it will only be -50. The only time it impacts me is when i take a huge hit and need to heal to full before the next hit and matching 1 3 heart orb = around 6k and 2 additional combos for total of 3 combo heals me for 11k. Eventually ill replace him with Ifrit and hera with hera-ur and go more fire heavy, with hera-ur i wont miss his dark orb enhance and i can use shiva's orb enhance on the previous floor. I just need to lvl them both, they sitting around lvl 40.


man i dont kno if these coc barbarians are even worth it to evo and try to skill up thor. It requires a keeper of light.
and the PAL machine has been bad to me, only got a green trifruit and nothing since. over 20 pulls so far.

[phosaken]

Sitting at the rem pull on jp waiting for a godfest to pop up lol...

Here you go Dryst, JP PAD Godfest on saturday. Egyption and JP 2.0

[JoshSP1985]

I don't think I'll roll rem again until 3 kingdoms is added.

[phosaken]

I don't think I'll roll rem again until 3 kingdoms is added.

thats what im saving my stones for.. for a small chance to get lu bu. and since we just had archdemons, i doubt that will come back anytime soon.

[eternalone423]

Finally, I was able to beat CoC Legend. I died yesterday after trying for the first time. The mobs hit hard as fuk in there and pillage kept pissing me off lol.

I didn't get the P.E.K.K.A invade either

[Brymc]

Finally, I was able to beat CoC Legend. I died yesterday after trying for the first time. The mobs hit hard as fuk in there and pillage kept pissing me off lol.

I didn't get the P.E.K.K.A invade either

Pillage is a pita.

Managed to get through Legend fairly easy then got trolled hard on Master by those goblins. Always seem to change the one orb i need into jammers.

Kindve glad im not trying to skillup my Freyja or Thor.