vascularity

[donmiller212]

Hey guys, currently on a cut. I was wondering if there Are any Good supps for overall increased vascularity?

[ktothewire]

Hey guys, currently on a cut. I was wondering if there Are any Good supps for overall increased vascularity?

Getting a good pump will work.. and getting lean!

[ISurfNudeBrah]

Hey guys, currently on a cut. I was wondering if there Are any Good supps for overall increased vascularity?

Consuming carbs preworkout goes a long ways, also when body temp is increased, vasodilation occurs.

Nitrates are great for endurance and pumps/vascularity, check out Power Shock.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/power-shock.html

[Danes]

Hey guys, currently on a cut. I was wondering if there Are any Good supps for overall increased vascularity?

Hemavol + Potassium Nitrate = SICK Vascularity.
If you want it even more hardcore, you can add a great dose o fGlycerol Monostearate (GMS)
GMS is found in Hemavol, but a higher dosage would be even more hardcore.
Glycergrow from Controlled labs is nice add on

But your diet (meaning low % of fat in the body% is needed.)..

[Hawks58]

Permanent lasting vascularity will come from a combination of genetics and low bf %. Temporary effects can be gained from high sets/reps, manipulation of sodium and/or water in take, carbs, supplements, etc.

[aaronuconn]

GMS or Citrulline.

[unplugged]

Hemavol + Potassium Nitrate = SICK Vascularity.
If you want it even more hardcore, you can add a great dose o fGlycerol Monostearate (GMS)
GMS is found in Hemavol, but a higher dosage would be even more hardcore.
Glycergrow from Controlled labs is nice add on

But your diet (meaning low % of fat in the body% is needed.)..

Came in here to say this. When i take hemavol and tropinol xp (has pot nitrate in it) my veins are bulging, and my muscles are so full and pumped that people at the gym ask me what I am taking all the time. Of course carbs and water are essential as well though

[unknown00]

Consuming carbs preworkout goes a long ways.

really? i would guess the opposite...hmmm

[ecxtimmy]

Hemavol + Potassium Nitrate = SICK Vascularity.
If you want it even more hardcore, you can add a great dose o fGlycerol Monostearate (GMS)
GMS is found in Hemavol, but a higher dosage would be even more hardcore.
Glycergrow from Controlled labs is nice add on

But your diet (meaning low % of fat in the body% is needed.)..

Agree with hemavol and PN

[unplugged]

if you want even more insane vascularity. Make your pre-workout meal VERY high in sodium. I'm talking at least a gram here. Pre workout i eat an omelet with lots of salsa/mustard and lots of high sodium spices and the vascularity and pumps i get in the gym combined with hemavol and tropinol xp are just mind blowing.....

[Danes]

Came in here to say this. When i take hemavol and tropinol xp (has pot nitrate in it) my veins are bulging, and my muscles are so full and pumped that people at the gym ask me what I am taking all the time. Of course carbs and water are essential as well though

Yea its really good
I use to add more of GMS

[donmiller212]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Aware genetics and low bf are the main factors. Like I said currently cutting. Will look into mentioned supps

[eugencsl]

5% bodyfat and a lot of hot coffee

[JH34PG]

VPX Friction actually gave me great vascularity. Body Octane gives a great pump/vascularity as well

[-SDR-]

Hey guys, currently on a cut. I was wondering if there Are any Good supps for overall increased vascularity?

For an awesome all day pump, BodyForge 2.0 works great, and its a whole lot more then just a pump product. Expect increased strength, endurance and especially recovery from using it too.

[donmiller212]

is hemavol stim free?

[BlueRev]

You can use supplements to show it
But it won't be mind blowing..

To truly show your veins, You need to be a low bf%

[SoccerMuscle5]

Go with GMS that is going to provide you with the most results but your diet is really key to all of this. There is no magic supplement that will do the trick but a few that will help some. The biggest factor is diet and good pumps in the gym.

[RVAPump]

increased body temperature and blood pressure cause increased vascularity, body fat percentage to a lesser extent

[Danes]

is hemavol stim free?

It is stim free and I love it..

[donmiller212]

It is stim free and I love it..

thanks, product has great reviews, will be adding it to my current pre-workout

[Hawks58]

increased body temperature and blood pressure cause increased vascularity, body fat percentage to a lesser extent

Oh really? So 15+% BF with high BP will have better vascularity then 6-8% with average BP?

[unplugged]

Oh really? So 15+% BF with high BP will have better vascularity then 6-8% with average BP?

No... If you're too fat, your veins won't show no matter what you take

[RVAPump]

Oh really? So 15+% BF with high BP will have better vascularity then 6-8% with average BP?

-marathoner
-5% bodyfat
-100/65 blood pressure

must be super vascular, right?

wrong

[hugeaiden]

In for a legit sup to increase vascularity that isn't a rip off

[Hawks58]

No... If you're too fat, your veins won't show no matter what you take

rhetorical question

-marathoner
-5% bodyfat
-100/65 blood pressure

must be super vascular, right?

wrong

Fat ass with 140/90+ will be extremely vascular then?

In the bb world, where people pursue an ideology of high muscle/low bf body comp...instead of the marathon/long distance running world where the idea is to be as lean as possible as the expense of muscle and fat...comparatively a person low in bf will reveal more vascularity then a person of higher bf. Even if the person with higher bf has higher bp. Will a high bp bring out vascularity? Sure. But it will not help someone of 15+ bf look more vascular then someone in sub 10s in the long-term. And really if someone is willing to induce high bp for long-term vascularity they are a ****ing idiot.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Vascularity is a superficial phenomenon created by veins, not arteries. Therefore, the skeletal muscle "pump" (I'm not talking about a pump you get while lifting; I'm talking about the phsyiological mechanism of bloodflow through skeletal muscle during isotonic exercise -> muscle contraction facilitates increased venous bloodblow) is important, which means that the amount of contractions per unit time + bloodflow demand of the tissue will dictate the skeletal muscle aspect of vascularity.

What people don't realize is that bloodflow to the skin (mediated almost entirely by the SNS) makes a huge difference in superficial vascularity. Bloodflow to the skin is increased via sympathetic disinhibition when central bodyheat rises + sweat glands are stimulated. So the overall training intensity and ******t temperature will also dictate a significant portion of vascularity.

Bodyfat %, while commonly cited, is a little fickle because it follows an inverse U-shaped curve. Obese individuals and extremely lean individuals have excellent superficial venous visibility...and you really need to start approaching either extreme to notice a benefit in this regard.

Summary:

-Amount of isotonic contractions
-Training intensity/tissue demand
-Core temperature (therefore, thermogenic ingredients can improve vascularity)
-Bodyfat % (minimal impact unless at extremes)

To add to the supplement list, GMS would actually be exceptional at improving vascularity because it directly increases the volume of the ECC (including the plasma), and thus increases blood volume (which is mostly pooled in veins).

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[RVAPump]

rhetorical question



Fat ass with 140/90+ will be extremely vascular then?

In the bb world, where people pursue an ideology of high muscle/low bf body comp...instead of the marathon/long distance running world where the idea is to be as lean as possible as the expense of muscle and fat...comparatively a person low in bf will reveal more vascularity then a person of higher bf. Even if the person with higher bf has higher bp. Will a high bp bring out vascularity? Sure. But it will not help someone of 15+ bf look more vascular then someone in sub 10s in the long-term. And really if someone is willing to induce high bp for long-term vascularity they are a ****ing idiot.

from Coop

Vascularity is a superficial phenomenon created by veins, not arteries. Therefore, the skeletal muscle "pump" (I'm not talking about a pump you get while lifting; I'm talking about the phsyiological mechanism of bloodflow through skeletal muscle during isotonic exercise -> muscle contraction facilitates increased venous bloodblow) is important, which means that the amount of contractions per unit time + bloodflow demand of the tissue will dictate the skeletal muscle aspect of vascularity.

What people don't realize is that bloodflow to the skin (mediated almost entirely by the SNS) makes a huge difference in superficial vascularity. Bloodflow to the skin is increased via sympathetic disinhibition when central bodyheat rises + sweat glands are stimulated. So the overall training intensity and ******t temperature will also dictate a significant portion of vascularity.

Bodyfat %, while commonly cited, is a little fickle because it follows an inverse U-shaped curve. Obese individuals and extremely lean individuals have excellent superficial venous visibility...and you really need to start approaching either extreme to notice a benefit in this regard.

Summary:

-Amount of isotonic contractions
-Training intensity/tissue demand
-Core temperature (therefore, thermogenic ingredients can improve vascularity)
-Bodyfat % (minimal impact unless at extremes)

[RVAPump]

^^^ wizard

[Hawks58]

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Are we talking increases in vascularity during workouts or increases in permanent vascularity? I really doubt people are going around doing curls to maintain vascularity in their arms outside of the gym...well I'd hope atleast. Which in the case of permanent vascularity increases the best bet is genetics + low BF.

Looks like coop is talking about during workouts, I've been talking about outside of workouts and increases in permanent vascularity.