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    Originally Posted by BrotatoChip View Post
    lol


    Vegetarians are humans with detrimentally over-expressed empathy. You feel bad when you see a video of some ******* beating baby pigs or skinning a dog but you are unable to separate this emotional reaction from logic and reason. The reality is these cases are outliers and are often written about using intentionally provoking language. You fall victim to the classic Michael Moore-esque unapologetically skewed reporting.

    Hundreds, thousands of trillions of creatures have died before you were born. Billions of cells die every single day inside your body but you don't care because they don't have an empathetic face or make a sad squeal when they die. You're so pathetically human but you can't see it.
    looks like someone's trying too hard to sound smart.

    Animals facing needless pain and torture so fat people can get a little more fat.
    All people are saying is livestock need to be treated better. And this is the norm. Most livestock are trapped in cages abused by the workers and never see the light of day.
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    Originally Posted by MrVeggie View Post
    looks like someone's trying too hard to sound smart.

    Animals facing needless pain and torture so fat people can get a little more fat.
    All people are saying is livestock need to be treated better. And this is the norm. Most livestock are trapped in cages abused by the workers and never see the light of day.
    No i'm just drunk.


    My point is that it's stupid to rage about 'animal' cruelty when it doesn't extend to all animals. People only care about creatures with which they can connect on some level. You understand how that pig/cow/dog/horse feels so you feel bad. Nobody gives a fuk about how ticks or mosquitoes are killed. There are no PETA groups protesting the burning of leeches. They are all highly intelligent creatures capable of feeling pain but it's not ENOUGH pain or NOTICEABLE enough for anyone to care.
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    Stress Hormons?

    Show me one phuckin animal getting chased and about to be eaten by a bigger animal that isn't stressed.

    You ever see a phuckin cheetah kill an antelope?

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    Lol wot, third world country in poverty and people here argue about not eating meat because how inhumane it is. /facepalms.
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    Originally Posted by BrotatoChip View Post
    lol


    Vegetarians are humans with detrimentally over-expressed empathy. You feel bad when you see a video of some ******* beating baby pigs or skinning a dog but you are unable to separate this emotional reaction from logic and reason. The reality is these cases are outliers and are often written about using intentionally provoking language. You fall victim to the classic Michael Moore-esque unapologetically skewed reporting.

    Hundreds, thousands of trillions of creatures have died before you were born. Billions of cells die every single day inside your body but you don't care because they don't have an empathetic face or make a sad squeal when they die. You're so pathetically human but you can't see it.
    Not comparing animals to humans but from a more simplistic perspective, think about this. Instead of the animal being beaten, stabbed, cut, rolled in ****, picture if this was the way your were being treated. The animals can feel something similar to what you would.
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    tfw watching video while eating meat, ty for making me depressed
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    Got up to 1:44 couldn't watch anymore.
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    Originally Posted by GloboRick View Post
    Not comparing animals to humans but from a more simplistic perspective, think about this. Instead of the animal being beaten, stabbed, cut, rolled in ****, picture if this was the way your were being treated. The animals can feel something similar to what you would.
    That's what humans do to pit bulls. All for money.
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    Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN View Post
    uhhhhh..... well... sharks terrorize other fish and no one is mad at sharks....
    Do sharks put fish in concentration camps and bombard them with cruel and unusual punishment before murdering them in not so quick and painless ways?

    I understand people eating meat, but it's not as necessary. People don't need to eat as much meat as they do.
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    Originally Posted by GloboRick View Post
    Not comparing animals to humans but from a more simplistic perspective, think about this. Instead of the animal being beaten, stabbed, cut, rolled in ****, picture if this was the way your were being treated. The animals can feel something similar to what you would.
    Of course animals feel. The point of pain receptors is to alert your brain to the immediate damage and danger. Everything more complex than a few thousand cells can feel pain in some sense.

    I'm sure zebras have a GREAT life in the wild running from packs of hyenas, prides of lions, and eventually dying to a hungry crocodile latching onto its neck and going into a death roll.



    Life is about survival. Any empathy towards creatures whose life does not benefit you more than their deaths is a luxury. If suddenly every store within 1000 miles ran out of food you could eat twigs and berries all day but after a couple days that chicken would look quite tasty. Vegetarians only exist because hunger is no longer a major issue for most people living in a modern society. The second human survival becomes paramount again all of those people crying about cramped livestock conditions either die out or start chewing on that meat.

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    Originally Posted by Duffo89 View Post
    Watching that piglet being castrated...... Honestly started choking up, absolutely sickening.

    Can't even watch more than a few mins of this video, heartbreaking

    I had to stop it there. That piglet sounded like a baby.

    I'm a meat eater but fuark.
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    Originally Posted by montecarlo View Post
    its all about sourcing your meat from humane farmers who pamper their livestock. That said, 99% of the meat most of you eat werent raised or killed humanely.
    this

    i eat almost no meat compared to what my dad used to, and all organic.
    1-1.5lb organic chicken and a carton of organic eggs/week and some steak in a rice bowl 3x/week, thats it
    do not want to feed the machine
    Egg foo young, En lo mein, so come on baby and have it just the same woooooynga
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    watched the first 12 seconds and already began to feel feels.

    i aint watchin that ****.
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    Originally Posted by Bigcarllittlewi View Post
    Lol wot, third world country in poverty and people here argue about not eating meat because how inhumane it is. /facepalms.
    How is that relevant? Brb there's one problem here so this other problem can't be talked about.

    Lol wot, the wars in the Middle East, lots of people dying, and people here argue about poverty third world country because of how bad they have it, at least they alive, /facepalms.
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    im not saying what is right or wrong but I just wanna throw this out there and see if you brahs have heard it and your thoughts on it

    is it true that the same or more amount of life (in the form of rodents and insects mainly) is lost from harvesting crops compared to harvesting meat?
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    Originally Posted by deerdiary View Post


    Cliffs:
    -At least watch the first 3 minutes

    Edit:

    For the morans negging me, I'm not saying eating meat is bad. I'm saying that if you need to eat meat, don't buy it from the super markets, since they get their meat from slaughter houses. If you need to buy meat, get them at a local family farm if you can.

    Animals that are tortured release a tremendous amount of stress hormones in their bloodstream and ends up in the meat/muscle. They are also fed an inordinate amount of antibiotics and other crap to keep them growing. There is no way it's healthy for you. That's what the video is about.
    would need to see proof. sounds like yet another celebrity talking out of their ass.
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    would need to see proof. sounds like yet another celebrity talking out of their ass.


    proof? how bout do a little research or study on the subject you stupid lazy piece of chit.
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    Originally Posted by jazi View Post
    im not saying what is right or wrong but I just wanna throw this out there and see if you brahs have heard it and your thoughts on it

    is it true that the same or more amount of life (in the form of rodents and insects mainly) is lost from harvesting crops compared to harvesting meat?
    Not sure if same amount, but the amount of animals killed every day by a combine harvester would shock your average vegan.
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    Been a vegetarian since 2007. I quit because I saw first hand how cruel the animals are being treated. It's disgusting, everything about the meat industry is gross. Then I discovered how much better I felt. Several issues I was having went away.

    I see a lot of negative replies to this thread, sounds like some of you are getting defensive.

    "If I stop eating mean it won't stop this" and you are right, but at least you're not apart of it anymore.

    Would I eat meat again? Maybe, hunted meat. At least the animal got to live it's full life free until the very end. Nature is cruel also.
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    Originally Posted by aristopF View Post
    Not sure if same amount, but the amount of animals killed every day by a combine harvester would shock your average vegan.
    and the amount of birds killed each day by windmills would give those hippie vegan douchenozzles a mindphuck too
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    Originally Posted by BrotatoChip View Post
    No i'm just drunk.


    My point is that it's stupid to rage about 'animal' cruelty when it doesn't extend to all animals. People only care about creatures with which they can connect on some level. You understand how that pig/cow/dog/horse feels so you feel bad. Nobody gives a fuk about how ticks or mosquitoes are killed. There are no PETA groups protesting the burning of leeches. They are all highly intelligent creatures capable of feeling pain but it's not ENOUGH pain or NOTICEABLE enough for anyone to care.
    bugs are a whole entirely different story. Also we don't factory farm bugs and then eat them. Its such a stupid comparison.
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    have fun with your zero test levels you vegan *******s.
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    Originally Posted by deerdiary View Post
    Holy fuk...strong ad hominem attacks ITT..."hur dur it's steve-o LOL @ you for taking his advice"

    Look at the reasoning behind the decision, not at the person who is saying it. If you actually watched the first 3 minutes of the video and it has NO effect on you, you are most likely a cold, deranged individual (which wouldn't surprise me, since there are really disturbing forever alone threads on an hourly basis).
    strong this
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    Originally Posted by Market_Pantry View Post
    would need to see proof. sounds like yet another celebrity talking out of their ass.
    While I can't prove anything regarding the stress levels of farm animals and the quality of meat they produce, you can find tons of articles describing the effect of high-grain (corn) diets and their effects on the microflora of cattle. Don't get me wrong I still eat meat, but I try to get USDA-organic and grass-fed meat

    an example: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0511074623.htm

    cliffs of URL

    -Cows are supposed to eat grass/hay
    -Farmers feed cattle a high-grain (corn) diet because it makes them bigger and it's cheap (subsidized)
    -Acid buildup in the stomach (caused by bacteria) causes ulcers in cows' stomach
    -Cow develops infections, chits everywhere and other cattle walk and live in it
    -cow is slaughtered, the bacteria spread to the machines and hooks that process the meat
    -you eat infected meat (ever hear of E. coli 0157:H7???)
    -farmers load their cattle with antibiotics to fight the bacteria, but the antibiotics further alter the good microbes the cow needs in its stomach


    look up E. coli 0157:H7
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    fuk, i can't get over Steve-Os voice.. i can't believe anyone could actually listen to him talk for 11 mins...
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