looks like someone's trying too hard to sound smart.
Animals facing needless pain and torture so fat people can get a little more fat.
All people are saying is livestock need to be treated better. And this is the norm. Most livestock are trapped in cages abused by the workers and never see the light of day.
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No i'm just drunk.
My point is that it's stupid to rage about 'animal' cruelty when it doesn't extend to all animals. People only care about creatures with which they can connect on some level. You understand how that pig/cow/dog/horse feels so you feel bad. Nobody gives a fuk about how ticks or mosquitoes are killed. There are no PETA groups protesting the burning of leeches. They are all highly intelligent creatures capable of feeling pain but it's not ENOUGH pain or NOTICEABLE enough for anyone to care.
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Of course animals feel. The point of pain receptors is to alert your brain to the immediate damage and danger. Everything more complex than a few thousand cells can feel pain in some sense.
I'm sure zebras have a GREAT life in the wild running from packs of hyenas, prides of lions, and eventually dying to a hungry crocodile latching onto its neck and going into a death roll.
Life is about survival. Any empathy towards creatures whose life does not benefit you more than their deaths is a luxury. If suddenly every store within 1000 miles ran out of food you could eat twigs and berries all day but after a couple days that chicken would look quite tasty. Vegetarians only exist because hunger is no longer a major issue for most people living in a modern society. The second human survival becomes paramount again all of those people crying about cramped livestock conditions either die out or start chewing on that meat.
Life is not all fairies and gumdrops.
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Has everyone here watched Earthlings? I think everyone should watch it once atleast. Noone has the right to be ignorant to what's really happening.
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Been a vegetarian since 2007. I quit because I saw first hand how cruel the animals are being treated. It's disgusting, everything about the meat industry is gross. Then I discovered how much better I felt. Several issues I was having went away.
I see a lot of negative replies to this thread, sounds like some of you are getting defensive.
"If I stop eating mean it won't stop this" and you are right, but at least you're not apart of it anymore.
Would I eat meat again? Maybe, hunted meat. At least the animal got to live it's full life free until the very end. Nature is cruel also.
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While I can't prove anything regarding the stress levels of farm animals and the quality of meat they produce, you can find tons of articles describing the effect of high-grain (corn) diets and their effects on the microflora of cattle. Don't get me wrong I still eat meat, but I try to get USDA-organic and grass-fed meat
an example: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0511074623.htm
cliffs of URL
-Cows are supposed to eat grass/hay
-Farmers feed cattle a high-grain (corn) diet because it makes them bigger and it's cheap (subsidized)
-Acid buildup in the stomach (caused by bacteria) causes ulcers in cows' stomach
-Cow develops infections, chits everywhere and other cattle walk and live in it
-cow is slaughtered, the bacteria spread to the machines and hooks that process the meat
-you eat infected meat (ever hear of E. coli 0157:H7???)
-farmers load their cattle with antibiotics to fight the bacteria, but the antibiotics further alter the good microbes the cow needs in its stomach
look up E. coli 0157:H7Last edited by huntito; 09-24-2013 at 09:08 PM.
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