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    Who the hell is Alan Sabrosky?? Voody, come in!

    Just trying to find out more about the guy voodoo is spamming the forum with in literally every post he makes (few examples below)

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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Voody, what do you know about him apart from the youtube you continuously spam? I found this, and i am instantly not-at-all shocked and highly satisfied.

    Alan Sabrosky bills himself as the former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College. He has made quite a name for himself in recent months by first declaring himself a military expert with high-level connections in the U.S. military hierarchy, then by outrageously claiming that Israel was responsible for 9/11 and that the U.S. military knows this and is concealing it. While he offers no evidence for this, he claims that he should be trusted because of his "expertise". The truth of the matter -- with respect to both his background and his claims -- is quite different, of course.

    Sabrosky was working at the US Army War College as an administrator. He never was the director or dean of the college. Far from it. According to the Press Office of the Army War College, in the mid-1980s, Sabrosky served as a civilian administrator at a research department of the college, supervising the publication of papers written within that department. Putting it simple, he was something like a librarian, a mid-level civilian manager at a military college, without access to the sort of highly classified material of the sort he now fraudulently claims to have. Moreover, he worked there 28 years ago. How on earth could someone who worked on the level of a college librarian in the 1980s be privy to top secret information about the 9/11? And how on earth could he be the only person to know about it or think it worth revealing?
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    strong source.

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/author/sabrosky/

    If you want to get the full thing you can pay $350 and get the latest edition of WHO’S WHO IN THE EAST and confirm the source.
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    Originally Posted by ZioBot View Post
    Just trying to find out more about the guy voodoo is spamming the forum with in literally every post he makes (few examples below)
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    Voody, what do you know about him apart from the youtube you continuously spam? I found this, and i am instantly not-at-all shocked and highly satisfied.

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    LOL too many people catching on to the likelihood that Israeli Mossad was behind 9/11, to draw us into obliterating Iraq its most serious rival in the region, and the guy who just comes out and says it is a former Director of Studies at US Army War College. Your classic hasbarat mission, of course, is not to answer the charges, but to trash Sabrosky. So you posted a source "exposing" him. Where did you get it? Answers.com!

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0052703AABuKsK

    But you're going to have a little trouble discrediting Sabrosky. A Director of Studies at US Army War College is not a "librarian." Universities don't give faculty positions to librarians, and Sabrosky has held a number of professorships. His bio. at VeteransNewsNow.com reads:

    Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. He is listed in WHO’S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.).

    A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky’s teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). Dr. Sabrosky has lectured widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad.
    Georgetown University Faculty Records page:
    http://www.library.georgetown.edu/de...ex/i5%7D59.htm

    Here are just SOME of this mere "librarian's" books, from World Catalog:

    http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n84-104822
    Most widely held works by Alan Ned Sabrosky

    Blue-collar soldiers : unionization and the U.S. military ( Book )
    6 editions published between 1977 and 1978 in English and held by 374 libraries worldwide

    Prisoners of war : nation-states in the modern era ( Book )
    4 editions published in 1990 in English and held by 320 libraries worldwide

    Alliances in U.S. foreign policy : issues in the quest for collective defense ( Book )
    5 editions published between 1987 and 1988 in English and held by 314 libraries worldwide

    Polarity and war : the changing structure of international conflict ( Book )
    2 editions published in 1985 in English and held by 261 libraries worldwide

    The Strategic dimension of military manpower ( Book )
    3 editions published in 1987 in English and held by 201 libraries worldwide

    Defense manpower policy : a critical reappraisal by Alan Ned Sabrosky ( Book )
    2 editions published in 1978 in English and held by 115 libraries worldwide

    Among his colleagues in publishing is Paul Warnke, former US nuclear arms negotiator under President Jimmy Carter.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Warnke

    Orbis: A Journal of World Affairs: Volume 25, Number 3, Fall 1981: Off to a Good Start by Roberat G. Neumann, Paul C. Warnke, et al. (Contributors) Alan Ned Sabrosky (Editor)



    So, Ziobot, does your Zio-butt hurt yet? Because I'm just getting started. Let's see what else Sabrosky says about Israel and 9/11. Why did your Mossad kill all those Americans on 9/11? Here's why (Sabrosky is not the only high-level official saying Israel did 9/11): " Former German Defense Minister Explains Why CIA and Israeli Mossad Did 9/11"

    http://www.intifada-palestine.com/20...-issues/print/
    WHY DO MOST AMERICANS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THESE ISSUES

    by Dr Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D, University of Michigan)


    ...

    Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty

    On June 8, 1967, early in the Six-Day Middle East War, Israeli aircraft and motor tor**** boats attacked the USS Liberty, a US Navy intelligence ship off the coast. Over 200 sailors and Marines were killed or wounded. Israel declared it had mistaken the ship for an Egyptian horse transport, and the US Government accepted that explanation. So did I, until 8 years later. Then I learned. Separate attempts by the two carriers with the US 6th Fleet to launch aircraft to come to the rescue of the USS Liberty were recalled: The first by Defense Secretary Robert McNamara; the second personally by then-President Lyndon Johnson. Either rescue effort would have prevented most of the US casualties.
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    But the Killer is 9/11, orchestrated by Israel

    We have all heard of 19 named Arabs in 4 planes, bringing down the two tallest buildings at the World Trade Center, striking the Pentagon, and putting one plane into a Pennsylvania field.

    We have not heard the rest of the story.

    It begins with WTC7,and creates an evidentiary trail leading directly to Israel and its cohorts in the US.


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    The 47-story WTC7 collapsed straight down into its own footprint the evening of 9/11, even though it was not hit by a plane. This map depicts the layout of the World Trade Center, and the path of debris from the impacting aircraft.

    Note that smaller buildings closer to the Twin Towers did not collapse in that manner, even though at least one was hit by debris from a plane and others by debris from WTC1 & WTC2.


    The Implications of WTC7

    -First, the controlled demolition of WTC7 means if one building at the WTC was wired for a controlled demolition, then all three were.

    -Second, the impacting civilian airliners were intended to provide a gruesome and shocking distraction that would facilitate the actual destruction of the buildings by other means.

    -Third, any successful operation of this type requires expertise, access to the target(s), and effective local support to facilitate post-attack escape & evasion.

    - Fourth, neither the 19 named Arabs nor any of their possible supporters in the US or elsewhere had the expertise, access and local support needed to do that.

    -Fifth, only Israel had the required expertise, access and local support – inside and outside of the US Government – and a positive incentive to bring down those buildings, which was to enrage the American public and bring the US into war against Israel’s enemies.

    So much links Israel to 9/11 – Only a public confession is missing, e.g.

    -Many key Bush Administration officials came from PNAC (Project for a New American Century). All were Zionists (Israeli partisans). They wrote about the need for a “catalytic event” to mobilize the American people.

    -Eight months after coming into office, they got their catalytic event on 9/11, followed by the wars their agenda required.

    -The company providing 24/7 electronic & personal security to the WTC, Kroll Associates, was owned & operated by Zionists, as was the WTC itself as of July 2001.

    -The owners and their immediate relatives seem to have been uncharacteristically absent on the morning of 9/11. Hundreds of American Jews died at the WTC & the Pentagon, but as best as can be determined, only 3 Israelis out of some 4,000 normally there, plus 2 more on the planes.

    -The senior fatality among WTC personnel was a retired Irish-American FBI agent in his first days on his job as Director of Security.

    -A private Israeli-owned security company called ICTS, registered in the Netherlands, provided security services (sometimes through a wholly owned subsidiary) to all three airports from which the four hijacked planes departed.

    -ICTS also provided security at the airports in Paris & Amsterdam, from which the so-called “shoe” & “underwear” bombers respectively departed.

    -Bergen, NJ residents saw five people on a white van filming the attacks and visibly celebrating. They had set up their cameras before the first plane hit. Police arrested them. All were Israelis. Bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives, although officers were unable to find anything. The FBI seized the van for further testing.

    - All 5 were later released at the instigation of Israeli & American Jewish leaders, some in the US Government. Details are still classified.

    A second van was stopped on the approaches to the George Washington Bridge. As CBS’s Dan Rather said in his live report:

    “Two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives were discovered around the George Washington Bridge. That bridge links New York to New Jersey over the Hudson River. Whether the discovery of those explosives had anything to do with other events today is unclear, but the FBI, has two suspects in hand, said the truckload of explosives, enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge…“

    Those suspects and the incident then seem to have disappeared from the record.

    -NORAD (North American Air Defense command) and its fighters were conspicuously tardy. They should have intercepted the 4 aircraft within minutes but did not do so, due to a linked series of failures to (1) get timely FAA reports of the deviating aircraft, (2) scramble fighters from the closest bases, (3) intercept at maximum speed, and (4) redeploy already airborne fighters to do the intercepts.

    - Several PNAC alums and their counterparts were in positions to affect that outcome.

    And as for the 9/11 Commission…

    -A fatally flawed commission, not least because of its pro-Israel staffing.

    -The 9/11 Commission’s Executive Director Philip D. Zelikow evidently ensured that nothing deflecting attention from the 19 named Arabs, or toward Israel, would make the final report, whose reading defies belief.

    - He also told an audience at the University of Virginia on September 10, 2002 that the real reason for his urging war with Iraq regardless of 9/11 was “the threat against Israel.” His concerns and loyalties are at least consistent...


    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studieso at US Army War College, General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. Concludes that a combination of treasonous elements in the US government and Israeli MOSSAD orchestrated 9/11, in order to enable invasion of Iraq. Also says USS Liberty was Mossad operation.
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    Originally Posted by zyx1337 View Post
    ZioBot has opened the gates of crazy
    standard response when you can't rebut the information.
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101
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    This type of misrepresentation of credentials is common in conspiracy and fringe movement. It serves to lend credibility. This is like when Kent Hovind is billed as a science teacher or David Coppedge an engineer at NASA.
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    standard response when you can't rebut the information.
    rebut? I didn't even read it.
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    I wouldn't put it past MOSSAD. Like I have said before they are a cancerous type of people and have already destroyed the US from within.
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    Georgetown University Faculty Records page:
    http://www.library.georgetown.edu/de...ex/i5%7D59.htm
    explain what this proves.

    His bio. at VeteransNewsNow.com reads:
    VeteranNewsNow is not a valid source. Its a joke conspiracy site.

    not a valid source for anything.

    lol come on, lets see some "credentials" - writing a book doesn't count btw. many librarians write books.
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    rebut? I didn't even read it.
    Like emails regarding Viagra or penis enlargement, you only need to read one voodoo post in your life. This is scientific fact provided in the OP by Prof.Ziobot, Director of Studies, University of Miscrp, The Internet.
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    Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies,
    Yet your sources also say he was at Georgetown from 1981-1988.

    Box: 17 Fold: 10 Sabrosky, Alan N.
    DATE SPAN: [08/24/1981]? - [12/31/1988]?

    http://www.library.georgetown.edu/de...ex/i5%7D59.htm
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    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    Yet your sources also say he was at Georgetown from 1981-1988.

    Box: 17 Fold: 10 Sabrosky, Alan N.
    DATE SPAN: [08/24/1981]? - [12/31/1988]?

    http://www.library.georgetown.edu/de...ex/i5%7D59.htm
    LOL

    This is why conspiracy nuts are nutty. You can't trust what they say from post to post, much less from day to day. Consistency and coherency mean nothing to them. It is all about sowing fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
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    Originally Posted by GregariousWolf View Post
    LOL

    This is why conspiracy nuts are nutty. You can't trust what they say from post to post, much less from day to day. Consistency and coherency mean nothing to them. It is all about sowing fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
    what has a no-mark like voodoo got to gain from sowing fear? I think its more to do with stubborn refusal to admit he's completely and utterly wrong, bordering on mental sickness.
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    Originally Posted by ZioBot View Post
    what has a no-mark like voodoo got to gain from sowing fear? I think its more to do with stubborn refusal to admit he's completely and utterly wrong, bordering on mental sickness.
    It's a little of both. I have a family member who is big into conspiracy theories. He's right in line with voodoo and lizzie. He basically believes nothing mainstream and everything fringe. I find it to be a mix of narcissism and paranoia. It often becomes a mission to get the word out, a personal quest to deprogram the sheeple. Fight the power!
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    Originally Posted by GregariousWolf View Post
    It's a little of both. I have a family member who is big into conspiracy theories. He's right in line with voodoo and lizzie. He basically believes nothing mainstream and everything fringe. I find it to be a mix of narcissism and paranoia. It often becomes a mission to get the word out, a personal quest to deprogram the sheeple. Fight the power!
    true, they don't seem to realise that while we are all sheeple, there are different breeds of sheeple.
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    Like emails regarding Viagra or penis enlargement, you only need to read one voodoo post in your life. This is scientific fact provided in the OP by Prof.Ziobot, Director of Studies, University of Miscrp, The Internet.
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    lol'd hard at the credentials
    Still waiting for one of you Zionist phaggots to show how multiple faculty positions and General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research at US Army War College equals, a "librarian," which you got from answers.com...talk about a strong source!

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0052703AABuKsK

    Since you have trouble sticking to the topic you brought up, not me, here again is his bio. at VeteransNewsNow.com, reads:

    Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. He is listed in WHO’S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.).

    A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky’s teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). Dr. Sabrosky has lectured widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad.
    Georgetown University Faculty Records page:
    http://www.library.georgetown.edu/de...ex/i5%7D59.htm

    Here are SOME of his books (he did just write "a book"):

    http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n84-104822
    Most widely held works by Alan Ned Sabrosky

    Blue-collar soldiers : unionization and the U.S. military ( Book )
    6 editions published between 1977 and 1978 in English and held by 374 libraries worldwide

    Prisoners of war : nation-states in the modern era ( Book )
    4 editions published in 1990 in English and held by 320 libraries worldwide

    Alliances in U.S. foreign policy : issues in the quest for collective defense ( Book )
    5 editions published between 1987 and 1988 in English and held by 314 libraries worldwide

    Polarity and war : the changing structure of international conflict ( Book )
    2 editions published in 1985 in English and held by 261 libraries worldwide

    The Strategic dimension of military manpower ( Book )
    3 editions published in 1987 in English and held by 201 libraries worldwide

    Defense manpower policy : a critical reappraisal by Alan Ned Sabrosky ( Book )
    2 editions published in 1978 in English and held by 115 libraries worldwide

    Among his colleagues in publishing is Paul Warnke, former US nuclear arms negotiator under President Jimmy Carter.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Warnke

    Orbis: A Journal of World Affairs: Volume 25, Number 3, Fall 1981: Off to a Good Start by Roberat G. Neumann, Paul C. Warnke, et al. (Contributors) Alan Ned Sabrosky (Editor)



    Now that you've been assraped trying to do the old "don't answer the charges just attack who's making them," let's try talking about what he actually says. He says it's common knowledge among military brass and intel all over the world that 9/11 was Mossad/CIA, which makes perfect sense because Israel is who benefited from the destruction of Iraq, it's main rival in the region. Supports his position by pointing out that USS Liberty was another false flag operation by you bastards intended to draw the US into the Six Day War against Egypt, confirmed by no less than US Admiral and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Thomas Moorer, who said:

    "In attacking the USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against U.S. servicemen and an act of war against the United States." http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ul-moorer.html
    Sabrosky is not the only high-level official saying Israel did 9/11: " Former German Defense Minister Explains Why CIA and Israeli Mossad Did 9/11"

    Now let's discuss the charges. LOL you Zionist phaggots I sh!t on you. You don't know the first rule of street: don't ever pick a fight you can't win.

    http://www.intifada-palestine.com/20...-issues/print/
    WHY DO MOST AMERICANS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THESE ISSUES

    by Dr Alan Sabrosky


    ...

    Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty

    On June 8, 1967, early in the Six-Day Middle East War, Israeli aircraft and motor tor**** boats attacked the USS Liberty, a US Navy intelligence ship off the coast. Over 200 sailors and Marines were killed or wounded. Israel declared it had mistaken the ship for an Egyptian horse transport, and the US Government accepted that explanation. So did I, until 8 years later. Then I learned. Separate attempts by the two carriers with the US 6th Fleet to launch aircraft to come to the rescue of the USS Liberty were recalled: The first by Defense Secretary Robert McNamara; the second personally by then-President Lyndon Johnson. Either rescue effort would have prevented most of the US casualties.
    [2]
    [3]

    But the Killer is 9/11, orchestrated by Israel

    We have all heard of 19 named Arabs in 4 planes, bringing down the two tallest buildings at the World Trade Center, striking the Pentagon, and putting one plane into a Pennsylvania field.

    We have not heard the rest of the story.

    It begins with WTC7,and creates an evidentiary trail leading directly to Israel and its cohorts in the US.


    [6]

    The 47-story WTC7 collapsed straight down into its own footprint the evening of 9/11, even though it was not hit by a plane. This map depicts the layout of the World Trade Center, and the path of debris from the impacting aircraft.

    Note that smaller buildings closer to the Twin Towers did not collapse in that manner, even though at least one was hit by debris from a plane and others by debris from WTC1 & WTC2.


    The Implications of WTC7

    -First, the controlled demolition of WTC7 means if one building at the WTC was wired for a controlled demolition, then all three were.

    -Second, the impacting civilian airliners were intended to provide a gruesome and shocking distraction that would facilitate the actual destruction of the buildings by other means.

    -Third, any successful operation of this type requires expertise, access to the target(s), and effective local support to facilitate post-attack escape & evasion.

    - Fourth, neither the 19 named Arabs nor any of their possible supporters in the US or elsewhere had the expertise, access and local support needed to do that.

    -Fifth, only Israel had the required expertise, access and local support – inside and outside of the US Government – and a positive incentive to bring down those buildings, which was to enrage the American public and bring the US into war against Israel’s enemies.

    So much links Israel to 9/11 – Only a public confession is missing, e.g.

    -Many key Bush Administration officials came from PNAC (Project for a New American Century). All were Zionists (Israeli partisans). They wrote about the need for a “catalytic event” to mobilize the American people.

    -Eight months after coming into office, they got their catalytic event on 9/11, followed by the wars their agenda required.

    -The company providing 24/7 electronic & personal security to the WTC, Kroll Associates, was owned & operated by Zionists, as was the WTC itself as of July 2001.

    -The owners and their immediate relatives seem to have been uncharacteristically absent on the morning of 9/11. Hundreds of American Jews died at the WTC & the Pentagon, but as best as can be determined, only 3 Israelis out of some 4,000 normally there, plus 2 more on the planes.

    -The senior fatality among WTC personnel was a retired Irish-American FBI agent in his first days on his job as Director of Security.

    -A private Israeli-owned security company called ICTS, registered in the Netherlands, provided security services (sometimes through a wholly owned subsidiary) to all three airports from which the four hijacked planes departed.

    -ICTS also provided security at the airports in Paris & Amsterdam, from which the so-called “shoe” & “underwear” bombers respectively departed.

    -Bergen, NJ residents saw five people on a white van filming the attacks and visibly celebrating. They had set up their cameras before the first plane hit. Police arrested them. All were Israelis. Bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives, although officers were unable to find anything. The FBI seized the van for further testing.

    - All 5 were later released at the instigation of Israeli & American Jewish leaders, some in the US Government. Details are still classified.

    A second van was stopped on the approaches to the George Washington Bridge. As CBS’s Dan Rather said in his live report:

    “Two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives were discovered around the George Washington Bridge. That bridge links New York to New Jersey over the Hudson River. Whether the discovery of those explosives had anything to do with other events today is unclear, but the FBI, has two suspects in hand, said the truckload of explosives, enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge…“

    Those suspects and the incident then seem to have disappeared from the record.

    -NORAD (North American Air Defense command) and its fighters were conspicuously tardy. They should have intercepted the 4 aircraft within minutes but did not do so, due to a linked series of failures to (1) get timely FAA reports of the deviating aircraft, (2) scramble fighters from the closest bases, (3) intercept at maximum speed, and (4) redeploy already airborne fighters to do the intercepts.

    - Several PNAC alums and their counterparts were in positions to affect that outcome.

    And as for the 9/11 Commission…

    -A fatally flawed commission, not least because of its pro-Israel staffing.

    -The 9/11 Commission’s Executive Director Philip D. Zelikow evidently ensured that nothing deflecting attention from the 19 named Arabs, or toward Israel, would make the final report, whose reading defies belief.

    - He also told an audience at the University of Virginia on September 10, 2002 that the real reason for his urging war with Iraq regardless of 9/11 was “the threat against Israel.” His concerns and loyalties are at least consistent...


    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studieso at US Army War College, General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. Concludes that a combination of treasonous elements in the US government and Israeli MOSSAD orchestrated 9/11, in order to enable invasion of Iraq. Also says USS Liberty was Mossad operation.
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studieso at US Army War College, General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. Concludes that a combination of treasonous elements in the US government and Israeli MOSSAD orchestrated 9/11, in order to enable invasion of Iraq. Also says USS Liberty was Mossad operation.
    seriously, what makes you think me (or anyone else who consider themselves sane) would read your wall of crap posts?
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    Still waiting for one of you Zionist phaggots to show how multiple faculty positions and General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research at US Army War College equals, a "librarian," which you got from answers.com...talk about a strong source!

    Since you have trouble sticking to the topic you brought up, not me, here again is his bio. at VeteransNewsNow.com, reads:

    Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute
    ...

    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    Your sources also say he was at Georgetown during that time.

    Box: 17 Fold: 10 Sabrosky, Alan N.
    DATE SPAN: [08/24/1981]? - [12/31/1988]?

    http://www.library.georgetown.edu/de...ex/i5%7D59.htm
    Discrepancy much?
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    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
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    Discrepancy much?
    Is the fact that his ignoring that is any surprise to you?

    that's why I don't bother reading/refuting his ****
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    Originally Posted by zyx1337 View Post
    Is the fact that his ignoring that is any surprise to you?
    No... especially since he wrote the playbook lol.

    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    25 Rules of Disinformation

    9. Play Dumb: No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues by denying they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

    16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses: If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won’t have to address the issue.

    19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs: This is perhaps a variant of the “play dumb” rule.

    25. Vanish: If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.


    from "25 Rules..."
    http://thestandard.org.nz/jackels-25...isinformation/
    9? Check..
    16? Check..
    19? Check..
    25? Check...

    As for Sabrosky though...

    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    8. Invoke authority: Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough “jargon” and “minutiae” to illustrate you are “one who knows”, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.
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    Originally Posted by zyx1337 View Post
    Is the fact that his ignoring that is any surprise to you?

    that's why I don't bother reading/refuting his ****
    Quoting this so your ignorance doesn't go unnoticed as well.

    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    ...



    Discrepancy much?
    Nope. I was wondering if there was one too, but if you read a little bit further from your own quoted source instead of cherry pick your information...

    while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS).
    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/author/sabrosky/

    You are aware of what "concurrent" means, right? Believe it or not, they have these things called planes where professors can fly between two distant locations and teach at two different places... For a "librarian" he has quite a resume, huh?

    Your welcome for saving you from a voodoo wall of text, although containing facts, you'll ignore anyways.
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    Originally Posted by zyx1337 View Post
    Is the fact that his ignoring that is any surprise to you?

    that's why I don't bother reading/refuting his ****
    Originally Posted by ZioBot View Post
    Just trying to find out more about the guy voodoo is spamming the forum with in literally every post he makes (few examples below)

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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post760172953
    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US Army War College, said both the USS Liberty attack and 9/11 were MOSSAD operations
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    Voody, what do you know about him apart from the youtube you continuously spam? I found this, and i am instantly not-at-all shocked and highly satisfied.

    lol
    Hey OP, I found your source. Lol at being "highly satisfied" by some dude's blog post.

    http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2010...f-us-jews.html

    I've seen better sources used by "CTs" trashed by you guys, yet you use some random dudes blog post and agree with it because it corresponds with your beliefs? Lol, no wonder you didn't provide a link to your source.

    I would also like to point out that Sabrosky has Jewish ancestry, yet still blames the Mossad for 9/11... is he allowed to be considered anti-semitic?

    I think it's safe to say Ziobot's thread backfired.
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    Originally Posted by NumeroOnce View Post
    Hey OP, I found your source. Lol at being "highly satisfied" by some dude's blog post.

    http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2010...f-us-jews.html

    I've seen better sources used by "CTs" trashed by you guys, yet you use some random dudes blog post and agree with it because it corresponds with your beliefs? Lol, no wonder you didn't provide a link to your source.

    I would also like to point out that Sabrosky has Jewish ancestry, yet still blames the Mossad for 9/11... is he allowed to be considered anti-semitic?

    I think it's safe to say Ziobot's thread backfired.
    Missed the part where you refuted this:
    He never was the director or dean of the college. Far from it. According to the Press Office of the Army War College, in the mid-1980s, Sabrosky served as a civilian administrator at a research department of the college, supervising the publication of papers written within that department. Putting it simple, he was something like a librarian, a mid-level civilian manager at a military college, without access to the sort of highly classified material of the sort he now fraudulently claims to have. Moreover, he worked there 28 years ago. How on earth could someone who worked on the level of a college librarian in the 1980s be privy to top secret information about the 9/11? And how on earth could he be the only person to know about it or think it worth revealing?

    I think it's safe to say NumeroOnce is an imbecile

    also, lol at some of the articles at this website you quoted.
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    You are aware of what "concurrent" means, right? Believe it or not, they have these things called planes where professors can fly between two distant locations and teach at two different places... For a "librarian" he has quite a resume, huh?

    Your welcome for saving you from a voodoo wall of text, although containing facts, you'll ignore anyways.
    You do realize a part time untenured adjunct is the lowest possible position you can have. They are paid 7k a semester TODAY and it was probably half that in the 1980s. Plane tickets and a hotel would cost more than his entire salary, lol.
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    Originally Posted by NumeroOnce View Post
    You are aware of what "concurrent" means, right? Believe it or not, they have these things called planes where professors can fly between two distant locations and teach at two different places... For a "librarian" he has quite a resume, huh?

    Your welcome for saving you from a voodoo wall of text, although containing facts, you'll ignore anyways.
    Oh, so now he's a "concurrent professor" huh...?

    And here I thought he was a director. My bad....

    Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute
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    Originally Posted by zyx1337 View Post
    Missed the part where you refuted this:
    He never was the director or dean of the college. Far from it. According to the Press Office of the Army War College, in the mid-1980s, Sabrosky served as a civilian administrator at a research department of the college, supervising the publication of papers written within that department. Putting it simple, he was something like a librarian, a mid-level civilian manager at a military college, without access to the sort of highly classified material of the sort he now fraudulently claims to have. Moreover, he worked there 28 years ago. How on earth could someone who worked on the level of a college librarian in the 1980s be privy to top secret information about the 9/11? And how on earth could he be the only person to know about it or think it worth revealing?

    I think it's safe to say NumeroOnce is an imbecile

    also, lol at some of the articles at this website you quoted.
    Okay... now find me a reputable site (not some guy's blog post) claiming his credentials other than...

    Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. He is listed in WHO’S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.).
    Nobody ever said he was "director or dean of the college," but a director of studies, so that part is accurate. Do I really have to bother refuting some guys blog post?


    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    Oh, so now he's a "concurrent professor" huh...?

    And here I thought he was a director. My bad....
    "Director of Studies" is not equal to "Director of College," which nobody ever claimed he was in the first place. When you are a knowledgable person though, you might get asked by multiple universities to teach WHILE simultaneously holding the position of director of studies at the USAWC.

    I'm sorry for exposing your reading comprehension deficits, Bushy

    Originally Posted by BEATINGU View Post
    You do realize a part time untenured adjunct is the lowest possible position you can have. They are paid 7k a semester TODAY and it was probably half that in the 1980s. Plane tickets and a hotel would cost more than his entire salary, lol.
    Source for his position as untenured adjunct? He's probably part time because he was also a PT professor at two other highly esteemed colleges, which I'm sure pay him enough. Even so, since when did paycheck size (which you possibly pulled out of your a**) become representative of his knowledge?

    I'm sure when he's a professor concurrently at John Hopkins and Georgetown (not to mention a PhD from Michigan, a school that produced a president or two), he's not hurting for money. Bottom line is, OP's source was some guys blog post, which I searched through and found no sources in.

    Come on guys, this is a pitiful attempt to assassinate somebody's character, and even more pitiful that your train of thought is "Alan Sabrosky isn't who he says he is, therefore the suspicious points he raises about 9/11 are mute, therefore 9/11 was done by Muslims," especially when the first isn't true. And for the record, I never even had to hear of this guy to hear of the points he raised about 9/11.
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