Deadlift Question

[BLK00TJ]

I've decided to start doing deadlifts but not sure if I put them where they should on my routine. I put them with my back and biceps day and they really worked my middle and lower back. Problem was, legs were the next day. I suffered through the leg routine and did leg curls instead of SLDLs. Should deadlifts be done with back?

My routine is the following:
Day 1: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs, Abdominals
Day 4: Either rest or go back to Day 1

Everything is pretty much compounds with 5-8 reps.

Thanks.

[Richie71]

I do them with legs to mean I've only got that one session hitting my lower back hard.
Other people prefer them on back day, as the DL works the lower back, grip in the same way most back exercises do, and also lats and middle back.

[ironwill2008]

I've decided to start doing deadlifts but not sure if I put them where they should on my routine. I put them with my back and biceps day and they really worked my middle and lower back. Problem was, legs were the next day. I suffered through the leg routine and did leg curls instead of SLDLs. Should deadlifts be done with back?

My routine is the following:
Day 1: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs, Abdominals
Day 4: Either rest or go back to Day 1

Everything is pretty much compounds with 5-8 reps.

Thanks.

Deadlifts are usually placed on 'back' day. Training legs on the next day is a stretch for most people; you might consider moving that 'rest' day to day 3, and then putting legs on your day 4 so your lower back gets some recovery.

[BLK00TJ]

Deadlifts are usually placed on 'back' day. Training legs on the next day is a stretch for most people; you might consider moving that 'rest' day to day 3, and then putting legs on your day 4 so your lower back gets some recovery.

I think that's what I'll have to do. It'll mean an extra day of rest for me but I don't think that'll be a problem. It may actually turn out to be a good thing. I usually train Monday thru Saturday and rest Sunday. So the new routine will be three on, one off every time (Sunday's have to be off for family time still).

I forgot how much this exercise worked the body. I haven't done them since high school. I found my grip is the weak point so far but I haven't tried an alternating grip yet. Back and biceps are tomorrow!

[EuropeanHammer]

U should give it 2 days between deads/squats

Try and work every muscle once a week if you can.

[BLK00TJ]

U should give it 2 days between deads/squats

Try and work every muscle once a week if you can.

I don't know if I'm advanced enough for that. I just got back into lifting last month after an 18 year layoff. I'm still in a cut trying to lose all the fat that replaced the muscle I had so I'm not expecting huge gains in strength until I get to my goal weight in another 12 lbs. I'm making some small gains, but probably just newbie gains at this point. I figure I'll be done the fat cutting in 2 more months at most. If it time wasn't an issue each weekday, I'd probably be on a 3 day full body workout. I have about an hour after work before the kids have to be picked up.

[kdogg3270]

Deadlifts are usually placed on 'back' day. Training legs on the next day is a stretch for most people; you might consider moving that 'rest' day to day 3, and then putting legs on your day 4 so your lower back gets some recovery.

this is exactly what i do

[tornmuscle123]

Deadlift day is like a second leg day

[bigtallox]

Should deadlifts be done with back?

Huh? Deadlifts *ARE* back day. Question is a non sequitur.

Personally I see all the questions/issues about how to split things up as next to irrelevant. How you split your routine is much much much less important than what you actually do in your training. Deadlifts are a staple. Most people would probably make more progress if they ONLY deadlifted and cut out everything else. But instead they get so focused on how to split things up because they have some sort of weird feeling about only doing body part "x" on a given day. Don't miss the forest because of the trees! The truth is you can't effectively train body part "x" without hitting body part "y" and "z" too. Quit thinking too much and lift.

[BLK00TJ]

Deadlift day is like a second leg day

Not as much for me as it would be for you. One of the few good things about being a shorty is the bar is much higher to me so I don't need as much leg movement.
The bar is already halfway up my shins before it leaves the floor.

But I do get that which is why I got so confused where to put them. Honestly, I didn't do them for that very reason. The only reason I'm doing them now is I'm thinking of competing in some powerlifting events since the O35 guys rocked last weekend. But on the other hand, I'm also wanting to bodybuild (not compete) and don't want a pure powerlifting routine.

[bigtallox]

Deadlift day is like a second leg day

Not with deadlifting barbells it's not. Maybe pulling trap/hex bars and frames, but not barbells.

[BLK00TJ]

Not with deadlifting barbells it's not. Maybe pulling trap/hex bars and frames, but not barbells.

Yeah, I didn't feel much if anything in my legs. But I've been doing squats since day one since coming back to the gym and the quads don't get as sore anymore. My grip strength blows which surprised me. I was using fingertips for 4 of the 5 reps with only 225 and had to regrip most of the reps. I think my hands are too small for the hook grip. I can't make up my mind whether to wuss out and alternate. I'm holding for a two count at the top trying to build grip.

[mcapote3]

i do deads on squat days basically 3 times a week.

[dbwade]

I do them with legs.

Chest/Tri
Back/Bi
Shoulders/Abs
LEGS (including deadlifts)

[Clintw1976]

Why couldn't you just swap day 1 and day 2 around so you do back, then chest, then legs, then rest? I'm considering starting a 5 day split where I do Sun Lower strength, Mon Upper strength, Tue rest, Wed Pull Hypertrophy, Thu Push Hyper, Fri Legs Hyper, Sat rest.

[BLK00TJ]

Why couldn't you just swap day 1 and day 2 around so you do back, then chest, then legs, then rest? I'm considering starting a 5 day split where I do Sun Lower strength, Mon Upper strength, Tue rest, Wed Pull Hypertrophy, Thu Push Hyper, Fri Legs Hyper, Sat rest.

That's pretty much what I'm going to do. Legs, chest/shoulders/triceps, back/biceps (with deads), rest. The DLs just may be my second favorite lift now. Squat is still my fav.

[Clintw1976]

That's pretty much what I'm going to do. Legs, chest/shoulders/triceps, back/biceps (with deads), rest. The DLs just may be my second favorite lift now. Squat is still my fav.

I do like the deadlift. I actually only started deads about 6 months ago. Never really did them. They are a very good all round builder.

[BillyTNT]

Back day for me.

[itsthemusic7]

Not as much for me as it would be for you. One of the few good things about being a shorty is the bar is much higher to me so I don't need as much leg movement.
The bar is already halfway up my shins before it leaves the floor.

But I do get that which is why I got so confused where to put them. Honestly, I didn't do them for that very reason. The only reason I'm doing them now is I'm thinking of competing in some powerlifting events since the O35 guys rocked last weekend. But on the other hand, I'm also wanting to bodybuild (not compete) and don't want a pure powerlifting routine.

You can do both. I always start off with a 3-5 rep power movement. Then move on to higher rep time under tension sets. Just dont go to nuts with volume.

[roughrider76]

Yeah, I didn't feel much if anything in my legs. But I've been doing squats since day one since coming back to the gym and the quads don't get as sore anymore. My grip strength blows which surprised me. I was using fingertips for 4 of the 5 reps with only 225 and had to regrip most of the reps. I think my hands are too small for the hook grip. I can't make up my mind whether to wuss out and alternate. I'm holding for a two count at the top trying to build grip.

I started doing SLDLs with my toes up on 25lb plates, I definitely feel them in my hamstrings now and have soreness the following day. I do them after my squat movements and before isolation work.