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    Alternative to ReductionPM ?

    Hello,

    I wasn't aware that Reduction PM was discontinued till my Amazon 'subscribe and save' was canceled :/

    I started using it about a year ago to see if the fat loss was real, but kept it on for the much better sleep!

    After reading good reviews, I tried AppNut Lipo-PM, but I cannot get a good sleep on it... I actually uses it here and there during the day as a stim (because of the mucuna it can drive me quite high).

    What would you guys recommend instead?

    I am really only looking for a "better" sleep, without become dependent on the supplement (like when I was taking 100/200mg of 5-htp a night for months, when I stopped it took me more than 2 weeks to be able to sleep normally again...)

    Thank you!
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    try CTD Labs Noxitropin
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    Ordered Reduction PM in powder form last week:
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    Looks like it's still available.
    English is not my native language
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    Originally Posted by SuperBison View Post
    Ordered Reduction PM in powder form last week:
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    Looks like it's still available.
    This. Otherwise you could probably buy all 5 ingredients in bulk and make your own.
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    Abyss Unparalleled if you want to try something that utilizes 5HTP again.
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    you can still get the reduction pm shots (powder)
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    REDuction PM is still one of my favs for night. Just a nice night cap.
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    You definitely need to check out ErgoBolic

    Incredibly affordable, geared toward non-stimulant fat loss, and improves quality of sleep by leaps and bounds.

    + as a bonus comes with a free LCLT at the moment
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    Sorry for the late reply, been too busy lately!

    Originally Posted by SgtGreen View Post
    try CTD Labs Noxitropin
    The fact that it has mucuna makes me believe that it won't be that good for me, as was Lipo-pm.
    I could be wrong of course, but for now I'd try to keep ldopa/tyrosine stuff for the morning not the night.

    Originally Posted by SuperBison View Post
    Ordered Reduction PM in powder form last week:
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cl...uestid=5587260
    Looks like it's still available.
    Hmmm, I guess I'll come back with the same question soon after though.
    Plus, as much as I don't mind powder all day long, for sleep time, it's so much easier to just pop pills for my drawer if I forgot and am already in bed... I don't know, just practical
    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    This. Otherwise you could probably buy all 5 ingredients in bulk and make your own.
    same as above
    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Abyss Unparalleled if you want to try something that utilizes 5HTP again.
    It actually looks the closest to it indeed, and might just be it.
    I am worried about it including a high dose of 5htp though... 200mg did create a huge dependency for me in the past...
    Also I'd rather not have zinc or magnesium so that I can control it myself... (well the mg is so small I don't care... but I know that every now and then I have to not take the zc at night... or somehow I must over do it and then don't rest much).
    Still looking into it.
    Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    you can still get the reduction pm shots (powder)
    Same as above's above'
    Originally Posted by Dracoy View Post
    REDuction PM is still one of my favs for night. Just a nice night cap.
    Definitely!
    Plus it tastes nice too
    Originally Posted by Big.Jazayrli View Post
    You definitely need to check out ErgoBolic

    Incredibly affordable, geared toward non-stimulant fat loss, and improves quality of sleep by leaps and bounds.

    + as a bonus comes with a free LCLT at the moment
    Hmmmmmm, I don't really understand what the ingredients in there are, so I don't really understand how they'd focus on helping my sleep, apart from the cortisol control I guess. Hmmm.
    I'm reading great reviews about its sleep part though, so maybe time to learn about new ingredients.

    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    Abyss Unparalleled. Relora has data showing improved fat loss
    Great sleep too?


    Thanks a bunch guys!
    In the past 2 weeks I really missed my RPM and definitely need to replace it soon (although taking a break was probably not bad anyway...)
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    Originally Posted by SgtGreen View Post
    try CTD Labs Noxitropin
    I agree with trying Noxitropin PM as well, lol

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