Why is there so much hate towards feminism??

[CJ93UK]

Feminism was necessary when equality was an issue. Equality is no longer an issue so feminism is not needed. Feminism is just another word for sexism against men nowadays since they want to push men down instead of making men and women equals. It's about revenge now, not equality.

That oblivity. Consider that there's social, economic, and political equality, and that there's other countries out there besides your own. Do you really think women have equality, even in developed countries? Economically and politically, a lot of them don't, not yet, and with people like you around, it doesn't look like they have the best social equality yet either. If that ain't enough, try taking a look at almost the entire continent of Africa, and much of Asia, where girls still suffer abandonment, gender mutilation, forced marriages, so on. Check out the news, where girls get gassed and have acid thrown over them when they seek education. Look at the situation of girls in the Middle East. This don't sound much like equality. You deem feminism unnecessary, because you think females have equality. It must be nice to live in your world, unfortunately the real world's far from that vision of yours, gender equality is still a serious issue around the world, and still sought in even the most developed countries, because it hasn't been achieved yet, not in any country, much less globally, and until it is, you're just gonna have to put up with those evil feminists who chase after freedom and equal rights, at nobodies expense. How awful.

[p0werlifter]

lol, troll.

Good one buddy, you're cute... You had me believing you were that dumb for a second.

You're very stupid and I feel bad for you. You can't even understand simple logic. Even men can be feminists and they can lol at the guy who got taken advantaged of but get mad when the underaged girl gets phucked. Are you phucking stupid?

[p0werlifter]

That oblivity. Consider that there's social, economic, and political equality, and that there's other countries out there besides your own. Do you really think women have equality, even in developed countries? Economically and politically, a lot of them don't, not yet, and with people like you around, it doesn't look like they have the best social equality yet either. If that ain't enough, try taking a look at almost the entire continent of Africa, and much of Asia, where girls still suffer abandonment, gender mutilation, forced marriages, so on. Check out the news, where girls get gassed and have acid thrown over them when they seek education. Look at the situation of girls in the Middle East. This don't sound much like equality. You deem feminism unnecessary, because you think females have equality. It must be nice to live in your world, unfortunately the real world's far from that vision of yours, gender equality is still a serious issue around the world, and still sought in even the most developed countries, because it hasn't been achieved yet, not in any country, much less globally, and until it is, you're just gonna have to put up with those evil feminists who chase after freedom and equal rights, at nobodies expense. How awful.

If you don't think women are equal in most developed countries then you are just as dumb as heavygainsbrah. Sexism does exist but I don't say that men don't have equality just because there are some issues with how well we get treated at times. Same with women.

[CJ93UK]

If you don't think women are equal in most developed countries then you are just as dumb as heavygainsbrah.

Last time I checked, that glass ceiling still ain't been shattered yet.

[p0werlifter]

Last time I checked, that glass ceiling still ain't been shattered yet.

You're a typical white knight.

[HeavyGainsBrah]

You're very stupid and I feel bad for you. You can't even understand simple logic. Even men can be feminists and they can lol at the guy who got taken advantaged of but get mad when the underaged girl gets phucked. Are you phucking stupid?

We give props, not lulz. If the boy comes out crying it's different but usually those boys come out proud of phucking their teacher. Your points give women fuel to think why we hate feminism is a bad thing, stop the trollin' you are making us look bad.

Phuck feminism in a place like North America, sure it is fine in a place where they sew up vaginas.

[p0werlifter]

We give props, not lulz. If the boy comes out crying it's different but usually those boys come out proud of phucking their teacher.

And when did I say that the boy was phucking a teacher? Life is not that simple and you watch too much pron to automatically think of that situation. Woman can take advantage of underaged boys also but I see you are a typical brainwashed individual.

Men have been raped and loled at many times. MANY TIMES.

[HeavyGainsBrah]

And when did I say that the boy was phucking a teacher? Life is not that simple and you watch too much pron to automatically think of that situation. Woman can take advantage of underaged boys also but I see you are a typical brainwashed individual.

Men have been raped and loled at many times. MANY TIMES.

I agree in that situation brah, if the boy didn't want it, it's totally rape. Did you not see the situations I gave ****ot?

You are very one sided in opinion the way you talk, typical brainwashed individual who watches too much porn because we misunderstood the way we talked to eachother? You must have huge social problems in real life buddy, take a chill pill ****ot.

[SolidOakie]

I think ALOT of people are feminists, except they deny that because THEY DON'T KNOW what a feminist actually is.

Most people think a ******* is a *******, when it is ACTUALLY a bundle of sticks. Society goes with the former. Winner: *******

Most people think a **** is a **** but it is ACTUALLY a cigarette. Society goes with the former. Winner: ****

Most people think feminists are women who think that they are better than men, or man hating women, ugly women who are either lesbians, or don't wear make up, and women only, when they are ACTUALLY women who think that they are better than men, or man hating women, ugly women who are either lesbians, or don't wear make up, and women only. Society goes with both. Winner: Feminists are kunty b*tches

[p0werlifter]

I agree in that situation brah, if the boy didn't want it, it's totally rape. Did you not see the situations I gave ****ot?

You are very one sided in opinion the way you talk, typical brainwashed individual who watches too much porn because we misunderstood the way we talked to eachother? You must have huge social problems in real life buddy, take a chill pill ****ot.

Why the hell would you tell me that I'm wrong and then automatically now agree with what I said? That was the phucking point that I was making and you just automatically came up with some kinky situation where the boy was phucking some super hot teacher and then told me that I was wrong.

[p0werlifter]

Also you realize that if a underaged girl has sex with an older man, it can automatically be considered as rape just because of the age difference yet it isn't the same with underaged boys phucking women. There is a double standard there whether you like it or not.

[SolidOakie]

Also you realize that if a underaged girl has sex with an older man, it can automatically be considered as rape just because of the age difference yet it isn't the same with underaged boys phucking women. There is a double standard there whether you like it or not.

So be it

[royasa]

Most people think a ******* is a *******, when it is ACTUALLY a bundle of sticks. Society goes with the former. Winner: *******

Most people think a **** is a **** but it is ACTUALLY a cigarette. Society goes with the former. Winner: ****

Most people think feminists are women who think that they are better than men, or man hating women, ugly women who are either lesbians, or don't wear make up, and women only, when they are ACTUALLY women who think that they are better than men, or man hating women, ugly women who are either lesbians, or don't wear make up, and women only. Society goes with both. Winner: Feminists are kunty b*tches

***got is an expression although literally, it means a bundle of sticks? amirite?

[pUniCepts]

ITT: a bunch of males argue about feminism in the female section of a bodybuilding forum...

[xsKiitz]

I'm all for female equality, but when they think they're above men and need to be admired and treated like royal princesses THEN it starts getting stupid.

[fihe]

***got is an expression although literally, it means a bundle of sticks? amirite?

You are correct. That's why the bassoon is called a "***otto" in Italian, because it looks like a bundle of sticks.

As for this whole argument about sex with underage kids, especially students, it's happened in my area and appeared in the news, with both male and female teachers/students. It does seem like the men are demonized more for it, even if the sexual contact between teacher and student was consensual in either case. Also, even if the student is 18 or older, it's still considered a terminable offense because the teacher is in a supervisory position.

[LisaSkinnoble]

***got is an expression although literally, it means a bundle of sticks? amirite?

Yes, it is a bundle of sticks. And there was a time that homosexuals were burned at the stake, using that bundle of sticks as kindling. And that is how the word became associated with homosexuals and that is why the word is offensive.

I know I am an auld biddy, but I have to tell you, my stomach lurches every time I see the word thrown around so casually.

[womanoid]

And now the forever alone rapists and homophobes have joined the wife beaters to express how much they hate feminism. OP is getting a clear picture of what kind of winners are sexists.

[p0werlifter]

And now the forever alone rapists and homophobes have joined the wife beaters to express how much they hate feminism. OP is getting a clear picture of what kind of winners are sexists.

Typical attack by a typical man hating feminist.

[CJ93UK]

Typical attack by a typical man hating feminist.

Typical response by a typical power hungry misogynist.

[p0werlifter]

Typical response by a typical power hungry misogynist.

I have already made it perfectly clear that I like feminism when it is promoting equality but modern feminism is promoting female supremacy. Stop being such an obvious white knight.

[SolidOakie]

Yes, it is a bundle of sticks. And there was a time that homosexuals were burned at the stake, using that bundle of sticks as kindling. And that is how the word became associated with homosexuals and that is why the word is offensive.

I know I am an auld biddy, but I have to tell you, my stomach lurches every time I see the word thrown around so casually.

Burning gay people at the stake is one of many theorys on how "*******" came to describe gay people. One of many theorys

[Wyomann]

And now the forever alone rapists and homophobes have joined the wife beaters to express how much they hate feminism. OP is getting a clear picture of what kind of winners are sexists.

Now you are being intolerant of other cultures. In some cultures hitting a wife is acceptable and we don't need those people feeling uncomfortable posting here.

Peace and love to all, let us rejoice in acceptance instead of condemning that whih we don't understand.

[latebloomingmom]

Now you are being intolerant of other cultures. In some cultures hitting a wife is acceptable and we don't need those people feeling uncomfortable posting here.

Peace and love to all, let us rejoice in acceptance instead of condemning that whih we don't understand.

which baby..if you are gonna try to come across as reasonably intelligent ( which I know you are) spell it right

[SolidOakie]

Now you are being intolerant of other cultures. In some cultures hitting a wife is acceptable and we don't need those people feeling uncomfortable posting here.

Peace and love to all, let us rejoice in acceptance instead of condemning that whih we don't understand.

which baby..if you are gonna try to come across as reasonably intelligent ( which I know you are) spell it right

[CJ93UK]

Now you are being intolerant of other cultures. In some cultures hitting a wife is acceptable and we don't need those people feeling uncomfortable posting here.

Peace and love to all, let us rejoice in acceptance instead of condemning that whih we don't understand.

What if we want those people to feel very uncomfortable?

[Wyomann]

which baby..if you are gonna try to come across as reasonably intelligent ( which I know you are) spell it right

You're gone for a month and show up with a sass mouth. Why I outta......

[Wyomann]

What if we want those people to feel very uncomfortable?

British people make everyone uncomfortable, it's inevitable with you.

[CJ93UK]

They're just jealous of our awesome accent.

[Bookish]

How is it possible that all you obviously intelligent people insist on seeing this as an 'either or' situation rather than an 'and' situation?

TEAL DEER VERSION
Discrimination against both sexes is ingrained in our culture. Women are discriminated against, and men are discriminated against, at different times for different reasons. Neither is ok, and they are tied together, so to fight for equality for one sex really is a fight for both.

Book version:

Yes, discrimination against women still exists. Any time you blame someone's gender for an unrelated issue, there you go. It's not as bad as it was, we can now vote, drive, own houses, get credit in our name, etc.. But here's an example - on the 'guy misc', someone told of a time he went to get a job and some girl showing her tits got the job instead. Was there a lot of complaining about the obviously biased hiring manager using discriminatory hiring practices? No! It was her fault for using what is perceived to be an advantage. That's really not fair.

BUT discrimination against males is a problem too, especially when it comes to domestic violence and rape. And yes, it is horribly wrong and unfair for men to be looked over or laughed at when they try to press sexual harassment charges, molestation charges, rape charges, whatever. It's criminal. And not only does it unfairly affect you guys, it effects ALL of us, because the less these crimes are equally prosecuted the less power we all have. It isn't fair that the tits get the tips. It isn't fair that you're expected to give up your seat, or that its harder for you to get true custody rights, and its harder for men to see their kids if their ex is uncooperative. Absolutely. I agree.


BOTH SEXES suffer from deep, culture based discrimination. But my belief in feminism - ie, that the sexes should be equal - means that I care about men's rights, too! That I think men should have an equal shot at custody, that women should equally be held responsible for domestic violence and rape and molestation, that they should be equally paid for an equal amount of work regardless of what body parts are exposed.

So, yes, men are absolutely treated unequally, but that doesn't mean that women aren't as well. We're both treated unequally in different situations in various points of our lives, and to try to discredit one sex's discrimination is counterproductive, because its all tied together. The mindset that hires a woman because of her t&a is the same mindset that will then ignore whatever competence she has and maybe not promote her. The mindset that makes it socially acceptable for guy A to skip out on his girlfriend when she gets pregnant as 'not my problem' is the same mindset that makes it hard for guy B to even see the kids he loves because 'well, men aren't that into parenting'. The mindset that makes women into frail little creatures who can't perform certain tasks is the same mindset keeping a man from rightly reporting sexual harassment from a woman.

A discussion about discrimination against women doesn't mean we don't acknowledge men get discriminated against, too. It just means we're talking about our own experiences right now. Just like taking about how important breathing is doesn't mean we're not aware that blood circulation is also necessary to life.