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07-21-2013, 04:33 PM #34
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Thread from MD where Dallas responds
http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...allas-Mccarver
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07-21-2013, 04:37 PM #35
Dallas' response. I almost want to sit down and edit in paragraphs, correct spelling, and better punctuation. Oh well, I'd trade my knowledge of proper English writing for his physique any day of the week (Satan if you are reading this and it can be arranged, plz PM me):
McCarver: "How do you guys get about thinking I had he goal to single the kid out or talk **** about him? lol Hell I just answered a question asked about him. I mean honestly read the article I never talked **** I never said how much of anything I do or do not use or anything of that matter. OBVIOUSLY there is gear involved in bodybuilding NO ****!! Point that I was trying to make is that as a whole bodybuilders are looked down upon by the general public for our lifestyle. So why make it worse by throwing around all the drug talk online? My thing is why make the drugs and what not the main point of focus? Then you just get a bunch of young kids who dont know how to train or eat correctly loading up on a bunch of drugs that they dont even know how to correctly use.... thats just not what I want to do, thats not my goal to get people on a load of gear. Im not going to sit here and defend how much of this or that I do or do not take because honestly it doesnt matter, but I will say the numbers in this video are a bit far fetched. Also as far as my mother paying for stuff, I mean really? my entire prep I hadmyown house worked 50 hours EVERY week and made sure I paid all my own ****. The only time I have lived in my mothers house recently is back in April when I moved back home with her when my grandfather passed away soon after I moved back to my place in chattanooga. I mean really how would that conversation go? MOM... can I get a few hundred for some gear.. Im running low lol. oh and also while your at it I need some cash for a twenty sack... My mom would slap me into next week! And there were judges paid off? really.... thats interesting. Synthol in my glutes is my personal favorite one haha. Look guys obviously I wasnt saying im a natural and gear isnt a part of the sport but my thing is why push that out to the public like that? to me I would rather people to get the basics down first and get into things such as gear for themselves. Why would you want someone who doesnt even know how to train or eat just loading up on gear and then trying to figure everything else out? I mean hell if nothing else theyd just be waisting their goodies lol. I just think theres a better way to help people out there that was my only point.""that guy is like a damn unicorn" -Evan Centopani on Mamdouh Elsbiay
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07-21-2013, 04:40 PM #36
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07-21-2013, 04:40 PM #37
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07-21-2013, 04:44 PM #38
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07-21-2013, 06:06 PM #40
Ok then why is he trying to make someone else look bad if it all does not matter to start with??
If you have a name that people know you by, you are already mainstreamed imo. Leave alone social networking on the daily.
Honestly I would rather be bostin than in mccarvers place regarding their positions atm. Bostin has more freedom.
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07-21-2013, 07:06 PM #41
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07-22-2013, 02:02 AM #50
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Wonder why pros get so offended when ppl look at them and say ''hmm, steroids'' when it is true.
Theres all this talk about how they are great athletes but if you take away the 1-2g of test and all the other stuff they take they would look nothing like they do?
So in fact are they really great athletes or just drug abusers
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07-22-2013, 02:32 AM #51
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I don't know of any pros getting offended at someone claiming they take performance enhancers. It's known in the industry.
Usually people that piss pros off are people who have an agenda to do just that, usually caused by Envy. (You have something that I want, but I can't get it, so now I don't want you to get it, and I hate you for having it)NPC Amateur.
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07-22-2013, 02:43 AM #52
^ I don't mean this reply as an attack or anything, just to answer your question.
Your response is EXACTLY why they get offended. The implication is basically without gear these guys wouldn't even be the same size as half the people in the misc. Obviously without super supps no one would look the way they do, but you're essentially belittling, and putting into question all the effort they put into their training and their contest preps.
I mean just watch this vid of Kai Greene preping for the 2010 Olympia:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10...t#.Uez7oY3xqbo
Can you honestly watch that and claim it's all drugs, the effort he's putting in there has got nothing to do with it? Dunno about you but I rarely see people work themselves that hard in the gym.
It's hot as **** here in the Netherlands right now. I was just walking about town with a buddy who's a fitness model. He's decently big, not exactly IFBB pro level or anything. He was wearing a tank, like everyone else, but he has to listen to every passer by with 12 inch arms and pants hanging off their ass say "roids" under their breath.
It must hurt to hear that, because the dude works hard, he's been training since he was 13. Never misses sessions, always has his diet in check. Yeah he uses, but he was big and in shape before he ever touched stuff. I get why people get angry and why it's degrading to hear some ******* who's never put effort into anything, let alone anything physical, just make everything you do seem so petty and easy.
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07-22-2013, 02:55 AM #53
Unfortunately bodybuilding has so many negative misconceptions , people seem to confuse the average gym rats way of life to the life of a pro .
The minute a guy has muscle mass its assumed he takes Aas , and the only reason he looks like that is because of aas . There is way more to being a pro than a good old shake up of cell-tech and lots of food.
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07-22-2013, 03:40 AM #54
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07-22-2013, 03:45 AM #55
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07-22-2013, 04:03 AM #56
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07-22-2013, 04:43 AM #57
Let me state I'm not a bostin fan...but Dallas isn't distancing himself from this guy because of drug use lol
Dallas is one of the biggest openly gay for pay guys in the sport...actually he has issued some "apologies" for it. He is also one of the absolute biggest drug abusers in the sport. I won't name his coach (you can look it up) is a super cool dude...but he is drugs, drugs, drugs...oh and more drugs. I mean doses that would kill small armies. Doses bigger than most of the pro's I know take.
Dallas' coach has been open with his dosages, it's all over the internet adn if you talk to his coach you can easily pretty much find out what Dallas takes. Dallas has a very very poor reputation in the sport as being a liar and a big g4p guy so let's not act like he is some good guy in the sport distancing himself from Bostin.
Go to the arnold in a limo with a wad of cash and you'll be turning out Dallas in your hotel room...
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07-22-2013, 04:45 AM #58
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07-22-2013, 04:56 AM #59
lots of people are hard workers...and quite honestly not all pro's work that hard. They are not in love with lifting and work hard like kai, or amateurs like dusty. I think a lot of peoples bubble would be burst if you saw a true drug protocol and what lifting is life with your everyday pro. Out of all the pro's or top amateurs I have seen workout or workout with (probably well over 100 if you include being in the same gym) here is the list of the ones that I think genuinly work harder than most at a "pro" level.
Mike Francois
Dave Dearth
Nasser
Ronnie Coleman
Kai
is there more? Probably...but workout after workout from vegas to CA, to right here in columbus so many bodybuilders training and pretty much most train at the same level of any normal gym rat. I've seen almost all of the regular top 10 olympia guys train in person and I actually can't think of one where a "normal guy" who wants to get big would think "holly sh*t I see why they are a pro they take it to an entire other level wow that is so extreme".
the sport does not work like the superficial, puppy dogs and pancakes, bodybuilding.com version
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07-22-2013, 05:55 AM #60
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