Obama Admin- one more scandal away from collapse?

[nutsy54]

The scandal which is unfolding before our eyes is a Republican Scandal and it shows us just how far these folks are willing to go in smearing a black President...

Actions directed, committed, and supported by Barack Obama for years.... And you not only claim Barack Obama has nothing to do with it (because it's always someone else's fault), but that any disagreement must be based on skin color. People like you are pathetic scum, seeing others only for their appearance while ignoring their actions.

PS: According to you, there are now plenty of Democrat "racists" out there, since many are also condemning revelations of Obama's latest lies (BRB - I'll end programs like this. Honest. Really )


Obama lied and fooled you into voting for him.... Damn you must be pissed by now.

[kratosbrah]

Exactly how is Fast&Furious not big enough of a scandal/screw up? Fast&Furious basically the ATF allowing gun dealers to sell guns to illegal straw purchasers, in the hopes that they could track those guns to cartel leaders. This tactic was used for a greater project gunrunner, main goal being to slow down the flow of gun traffic into Mexico, how do you slow down gun traffic into Mexico if you allow guns to be purchased illegally? 2,000 firearms sold, only 710 recovered. Many straw purchasers were arrested, but no cartel leaders. Guns sold under fast&furious have been found on crime scenes both in the United States and Mexico. Also, apparently the death of Brian Terry is insignificant? A border patrol agent and countless Mexicans killed by the guns the ATF allowed to be trafficked into Mexico.

Not big enough of a scandal.

[HumptyBrah]

Exactly how is Fast&Furious not big enough of a scandal/screw up? Fast&Furious basically the ATF allowing gun dealers to sell guns to illegal straw purchasers, in the hopes that they could track those guns to cartel leaders. This tactic was used for a greater project gunrunner, main goal being to slow down the flow of gun traffic into Mexico, how do you slow down gun traffic into Mexico if you allow guns to be purchased illegally? 2,000 firearms sold, only 710 recovered. Many straw purchasers were arrested, but no cartel leaders. Guns sold under fast&furious have been found on crime scenes both in the United States and Mexico. Also, apparently the death of Brian Terry is insignificant? A border patrol agent and countless Mexicans killed by the guns the ATF allowed to be trafficked into Mexico.

Not big enough of a scandal.

Shh. Dealing arms to Mexican drug cartels is nbd brah.

[trailwarrior]

you not only claim Barack Obama has nothing to do with it (because it's always someone else's fault), but that any disagreement must be based on skin color.

And nutsy the partisan hack chimes in!...lol

Can you not read?...

If they didn't want him to sign their own program then why did they even create it? If they really did want him to sign their own program then STFU!

H.R.4310 - NDAA 2013 (Republican Howard McKeon)
........ Democrat .Republican .Independent .Total
Ayes: .....77 ........222 ..........0 ................299 (69%) 
Nays: ...104 ..........16 ..........0 ................120 (28%) 
NV: .........9 ...........3 ...........0 .................12 (3%)

[nutsy54]

And nutsy the partisan hack chimes in!...lol

Can you not read?...

NDAA 2013.... HR 4310.... SIGNED BY BARACK OBAMA, Jan 2, 2013

But nothing is Obama's fault... not even his own signature.

And you're pathetic enough to call me "partisan"
Hey dumbass, I supported NDAA. Meanwhile, you try to pretend the guy who signed it into law holds no responsibility, but somehow everyone else is to blame.

EDIT: Trailwarrior is a LIAR!
He posted false vote totals, based on the site he linked to. His numbers came from an initial vote in May. The reality that Passed the final legislation:

Final House vote on Passage (20 Dec 2012):
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h645
(R) 205 For, 30 Against
(D) 110 For, 77 Against

Final Senate vote on Passage (21 Dec 2012):
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/s229
(R) 36 For, 7 Against
(D) 44 For, 6 Against


Trailwarrior: Pathetic, drooling boot licker exposed. 59% of House Democrats voted for it, and 88% of Senate Democrats. But he's too ignorant to know that (or just a liar like his beloved Barack Obama, Hoping nobody will notice?)

[paul_v]

As much as I dislike the President I think he had nothing to do with the IRS scandal. It was done by his subordinates without his knowledge. I can't imagine a President being that stupid. But as someone else said, the buck stops with him

[nutsy54]

As much as I dislike the President I think he had nothing to do with the IRS scandal. It was done by his subordinates without his knowledge. I can't imagine a President being that stupid. But as someone else said, the buck stops with him

Bingo. What does it say about the guy in charge, when he (and all the senior leaders he selected) seem to never have any idea what's going on? Imagine what else has been brewing for the past four years, that will eventually come out?

[nutsy54]

so you're not telling the truth either.

How am I "not telling the truth"? I cited the final votes in each house of Congress, the only votes that matter.

[trailwarrior]

you try to pretend the guy who signed it into law holds no responsibility, but somehow everyone else is to blame.

looks like you would be the only one who has ever said that!



EDIT: nutsy54 is a LIAR!
He posted false vote totals, based on the site he linked to. His numbers came from the vote in December. The reality that should not have Passed earlier legislation:

It was Republican Congressman Howard McKeon who authored NDAA 2013 and if his fellow Republicans hadn't passed it then it would never have went any further.

H.R.4310 - NDAA 2013 (Republican Howard McKeon)
........ Democrat .Republican .Independent .Total
Ayes: .....77 ........222 ..........0 ................299 (59%) 
Nays: ...104 ..........16 ..........0 ................120 (39%) 
NV: .........9 ...........3 ...........0 .................12 (1%)



I didn't expect any less from our resident hack!

[nutsy54]

It was Republican Congressman Howard McKeon who authored NDAA 2013 and if his fellow Republicans hadn't passed it then it would never have went any further.

It wasn't Passed until Dec 2012... When the majority of Democrats in both the House & Senate voted For it. Keep up the lies, it only shows how pathetically failed your blind support of Obama has become.

Just keep posting a vote from May, and pretend that has any meaning

Democrat Senate majority voted for it
Democrat House majority voted for it
Democrat President signed it into law
... BRB - Solely blaming Republicans. Derp

[trailwarrior]

Just keep posting a vote from May, and pretend that has any meaning

If it had no meaning then why did they vote for it?

oh...that's right...because if the Republicans hadn't passed it in May then there would have been no vote in December!

[nutsy54]

If it had no meaning then why did they vote for it?

oh...that's right...because if the Republicans hadn't passed it in May then there would have been no vote in December!

Again, a laughably false statement. What the hell do you think, that if one vote had failed, the entire process would have stopped and we'd have no Defense funding bill for the year?

There were 33 different votes logged against that bill. The only ones that matter? The final ones that sent it to the White House where Barack Obama (D) signed it into law.

[Renegade83]

Again, a laughably false statement. What the hell do you think, that if one vote had failed, the entire process would have stopped and we'd have no Defense funding bill for the year?

There were 33 different votes logged against that bill. The only ones that matter? The final ones that sent it to the White House where Barack Obama (D) signed it into law.

Yes, let's completely ignore the entire legislative process and not appropriate blame to all involved in passing it. If you weren't a partisan hack you would say that both sides of the aisle along with the President are to blame.

[nutsy54]

Yes, let's completely ignore the entire legislative process and not appropriate blame to all involved in passing it. If you weren't a partisan hack you would say that both sides of the aisle along with the President are to blame.

Um, I'm not blaming anyone. I have no problem with the laws that were passed & enacted.

TrailWarrior pretends he has a problem, but somehow the Democrat majority in Congress has no blame, the Democrat President has no blame, and we're supposed to pretend he's not a pathetic partisan hack for ignoring Democrat complicity in a law he opposes.