***Official 2013 NFL Fantasy Football Think Tank***

[liuzhoudragon]

I usually can grab better wr3s in a 12 man.... are u drafting a te early?

I will draft gronk, gonzalez, ahead of the 3rd WR .....sometimes Pitta if the WRs are picked early.

you go rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/qb or te?

[liuzhoudragon]

He probably is. In mocks I've been taking Gronk in round 5, which puts WR3 to at least round 6, and those are the kinds of guys who seem to be available IIRC. EIther that or he takes a high QB or takes a RB3 before a WR3. My guess.

I take QB way late........stafford or romo late.
3rd RB vs 3rd WR i normally see who is available.

edit: got lots of mocks on the first page............feel free to educate my newb arse.

[4thelvofthegme]

also torn on decker vs welker.

Peyton never seems to use TEs...........does he do much with sloot recievers?

also torn on my 3rd reciver. Shorts....S Johnson.....Mike Williams......Lance Moore (the first two go a bit earlier than the last two)

why do I keep hearing online Pierce is going to steal carries and TD from Rice? No one drafts Pierce if they are thinking this. He goes in the final rounds if he goes.

Peyton had Dallas Clark for most of his career, which was a very nice piece in their offense in Indy. He also had Stokley in the slot which had nice numbers in Indy too. I think the TE's got split last year, but if you put their numbers together I would guess they would have had a decent season based on fantasy numbers.

[Farley1324]

Stokley had a nickname.

Slot Machine

But he only had good season numbers one year. That was 2004. He only has about 5k career rec yards, going back to 1999

[notWilliam]

been getting Cobb in almost every single draft.

Also this has come up several times.

Decker or Welker

I like Cobb this year, top 10 WR for sure.
Would take ahead of Roddy and DT tbh.

Welker > Decker.

[liuzhoudragon]

anyone else feel there is a ton guys dangerous pick for RBs this year.....especialy for RB2

Gore is 30 with years of heavy use...Kaep might steal some of his TD
CJ0K has to share with Greene......so both take hits.
MJD is been injured 2 of past 3 years and held out and is currently fat...........and on the jaguars
T-Rich has be hurt a ton, included recently
Forte is injured every year
Run DMC aka McHurt........
BJE fell of the face of the earth.

serious after the legit top 10 ..........you get down to Sjax...........ridely..............then ??? bush? rookies ball and bell?

[kids.got.soul]

anyone else feel there is a ton guys dangerous pick for RBs this year.....especialy for RB2

Gore is 30 with years of heavy use...Kaep might steal some of his TD
CJ0K has to share with Greene......so both take hits.
MJD is been injured 2 of past 3 years and held out and is currently fat...........and on the jaguars
T-Rich has be hurt a ton, included recently
Forte is injured every year
Run DMC aka McHurt........
BJE fell of the face of the earth.

serious after the legit top 10 ..........you get down to Sjax...........ridely..............then ??? bush? rookies ball and bell?

Yeah I'm not feeling great about a lot of RBs this year. Teams that win leagues are gonna be the ones that hit a homerun with either a rookie or FA off waivers I think. Same goes for those picks in the later rounds.

Fortunately in my main league I can probably count on people taking defenses and kickers way too early so I can hopefully snag some players at great value.

[dirtdickens]

Yeah I'm not feeling great about a lot of RBs this year. Teams that win leagues are gonna be the ones that hit a homerun with either a rookie or FA off waivers I think. Same goes for those picks in the later rounds.

Fortunately in my main league I can probably count on people taking defenses and kickers way too early so I can hopefully snag some players at great value.

Im not pumped about a lot of them, there will be a group of 3-4 that are head an shoulders above everyone else, but I think it is a lot like last year.

[Murph0408]

anyone else feel there is a ton guys dangerous pick for RBs this year.....especialy for RB2

Gore is 30 with years of heavy use...Kaep might steal some of his TD
CJ0K has to share with Greene......so both take hits.
MJD is been injured 2 of past 3 years and held out and is currently fat...........and on the jaguars
T-Rich has be hurt a ton, included recently
Forte is injured every year
Run DMC aka McHurt........
BJE fell of the face of the earth.

serious after the legit top 10 ..........you get down to Sjax...........ridely..............then ??? bush? rookies ball and bell?

i would add demarco murray to that list and take CJ off of it. you know what you're getting from CJ at this point. at the end of the year his numbers will be solid for a RB2. but the trip you take to get there can be an absolute roller coaster. with all the money they pay him if he plays well off the bat i wouldn't worry much about greene (although i'd draft greene later as the handcuff)

as for murray i love his talent, watching him play it's obvious he has the ability to be big-time. if he falls i'm probably taking him despite the risk. make sure you get all the backups for these dudes in the draft though. have to play smart and not kid yourself

[liuzhoudragon]

some reason mike williams is so easy to get as a 5th WR? his free agency is next year.

[dirtdickens]

some reason mike williams is so easy to get as a 5th WR? his free agency is next year.

There are so many decent WRs this season. Even someone like David Nelson with the Browns could be a play certain weeks. Im a big Mike Williams fan.

[kids.got.soul]

some reason mike williams is so easy to get as a 5th WR? his free agency is next year.

When is Romo going usually? His ADP on that mock draft ff calculator site is around the 8th. Is he really falling that late? I found that hard to believe.

[Farley1324]

When is Romo going usually? His ADP on that mock draft ff calculator site is around the 8th. Is he really falling that late? I found that hard to believe.

Romo going as the 8th QB? Absolutely. Clearly these 6 are going to generally be drafted ahead of Romo:

Rodgers
Brees
Brady
Manning
Newton
Ryan

Which would put Romo to at least QB7.

Then you get into the likes of

Romo
Stafford
Wilson
Kaepernick
Luck
RG3

Then, finally, starting basically QB2 availability you are into the likes of

E Manning
Roethlisberger
Dalton
Rivers
etc

[liuzhoudragon]

romo is free falling. and he has some easy matchup this year too.

If I wasn't high on stafford having a up year I would grab tony.

[kids.got.soul]

I guess it's different actually seeing completed draft boards. Romo and Wilson seem like great value picks at QB. Good to keep in mind.

[dirtdickens]

I really like Wilson this year.

[Impurityz]

blows my mind people are drafting wilson and kap in the 4/5/6 rounds

[4thelvofthegme]

Consensus on Larry Fitz. This is the 2nd most talented receiver in the league (Calvin Johnson seems to have passed him), and he has a QB who can throw the ball deep, and a head coach who's offensive scheme is to do so. Hes been going in the 3rd for a 12 man league, so what gives? Has everyone forgot about him, has he slowed down? I think he goes for 1500 yards and 10+ TDs.

After going RB/RB hes who I'm hoping to get him in the 3rd.

[MURedHawk235]

Romo going as the 8th QB? Absolutely. Clearly these 6 are going to generally be drafted ahead of Romo:

Going in the 8th round brah not the 8th overall QB selected.

I typically see him get picked in the 7th or 8th. By me usually haha

Consensus on Larry Fitz. This is the 2nd most talented receiver in the league (Calvin Johnson seems to have passed him), and he has a QB who can throw the ball deep, and a head coach who's offensive scheme is to do so. Hes been going in the 3rd for a 12 man league, so what gives? Has everyone forgot about him, has he slowed down? I think he goes for 1500 yards and 10+ TDs.

After going RB/RB hes who I'm hoping to get him in the 3rd.

It mainly came down to the line not giving the QB enough time to get him the ball. He is still a great WR, with palmer throwing to him he should do better and the cards have tried to upgrade their O-line, but I think most people are still skeptical.

[Farley1324]

Consensus on Larry Fitz. This is the 2nd most talented receiver in the league (Calvin Johnson seems to have passed him), and he has a QB who can throw the ball deep, and a head coach who's offensive scheme is to do so. Hes been going in the 3rd for a 12 man league, so what gives? Has everyone forgot about him, has he slowed down? I think he goes for 1500 yards and 10+ TDs.

After going RB/RB hes who I'm hoping to get him in the 3rd.

I think mostly he is being slightly overlooked because he had such a down year last year. He was literally almost WR40. 798 yards and 4 TD.

His QB situation is improved for as long as Palmer can stay healthy, but that O-line is still going to be ugly, I think. Opposing defenses are still going to be able to concentrate on Fitz. And Palmer, while an upgrade for sure, is still a middling QB at this point IMO. He has only produced recently in that he has a lot of attempts and a lot of yards while playing from behind.

I think he will probably put up low end WR1 numbers.

[kids.got.soul]

Going in the 8th round brah not the 8th overall QB selected.

I typically see him get picked in the 7th or 8th. By me usually haha

I'll be doing the same if he continues to go during those rounds.

[Boonenator]

12 team two keeper snake draft
Drafting 11th
Keepers can be kept indefinite

T-Rich-1st rd
Jamaal Charles-2nd rd
Jimmy Graham-8th rd
Demarco Murray-11th rd

[Impurityz]

12 team two keeper snake draft
Drafting 11th
Keepers can be kept indefinite

T-Rich-1st rd
Jamaal Charles-2nd rd
Jimmy Graham-8th rd
Demarco Murray-11th rd

you get to keep two of the four?

[EastCoastNiner]

What makes you think so?

The Patriots seem to view Vereen as their goal line HB, and they were giving him quite a few carries down there last year. If Brady is out of the shotgun down there, he's also far better catching the ball out of the backfield for a short catch or a screen. He is a little tank, simile rot MJD in stature.

Regarding Hernandez, I think he'll slip a little, but I'd go after him with questions about Gronk's health, and Amendola being a health risk. I know Hernandez is a health risk as well, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.

I would stay away from most Patriots WR's in early rounds though.

[Farley1324]

The Patriots seem to view Vereen as their goal line HB, and they were giving him quite a few carries down there last year. If Brady is out of the shotgun down there, he's also far better catching the ball out of the backfield for a short catch or a screen. He is a little tank, simile rot MJD in stature.

Regarding Hernandez, I think he'll slip a little, but I'd go after him with questions about Gronk's health, and Amendola being a health risk. I know Hernandez is a health risk as well, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.

I would stay away from most Patriots WR's in early rounds though.

Uh...what?

Ridley was clearly the favored RB for goal line situations last year. That's why Ridley got 12 TD and Vereen got 3.

Receiving TDs, you say? Vereen had had exactly 1 of those last year...and it was an 83 yard break-away.

[Boonenator]

you get to keep two of the four?

Yeah, those are the four notable players I can keep. Also demaryrius Thomas-3rd rd and Matt Ryan-5th rd.

I lose the round they were drafted in.
Example if I keep jimmy graham, I lose my 8th round pick.

[EastCoastNiner]

Uh...what?

Ridley was clearly the favored RB for goal line situations last year. That's why Ridley got 12 TD and Vereen got 3.

Receiving TDs, you say? Vereen had had exactly 1 of those last year...and it was an 83 yard break-away.

You do realize Vereen was out for three games last year as well as playing much of the season injured? Ridley was their top HB without a doubt, but many in the Patriots organization have favored Vereen for quite some time, but he hasn't been able to stay on the field, and when he has been on the field, he hasn't been healthy. His lack of touches has less to do with him as a player, and much more to do with him and his health.

Just like two years ago before Gronk's massive season where many people didn't want to take him high, there was a lot of talk from inside the Patriots organization and the media here about him ready to have an All-Pro season. There's similar talk about Vereen being ready to get a lot more carries and touches this year IF he can remain healthy. There's little doubt that he gets a LOT more touches this year, especially near the goal-line with the Patriots coaching staff not trusting Ridley's ball security.

Ridley will without a doubt be the top choice at HB, but Vereen will get his touches with Woodhead gone and his talent level. If he's there in the later rounds, I'm taking him without thinking twice.

[yuja]

Yeah, those are the four notable players I can keep. Also demaryrius Thomas-3rd rd and Matt Ryan-5th rd.

I lose the round they were drafted in.
Example if I keep jimmy graham, I lose my 8th round pick.

graham and charles...easily

8th rounder for graham? high way robbery lol

[Boonenator]

graham and charles...easily

8th rounder for graham? high way robbery lol

Lol yeah graham is my no brainer. It was basically between Charles for 2nd rd or the value of Murray as an 11th rd

[yuja]

Lol yeah graham is my no brainer. It was basically between Charles for 2nd rd or the value of Murray as an 11th rd

True, but what other backs might be available in the 2nd round that compare to charles?