All of you are retarded for suckering into the protein fallacy

[FlexLex]

You're a ****ing idiot. Let me explain why:
1. The only people that buy into the whole "must over-consume protein" hype are the very beginners who just signed up at the gym and want to buy "supps".
2. It is common knowledge for anyone who is not a full blown retard that in order to support moderate to high intensity activities, you need carbs as protein is not an efficient source of energy. Your body prefers to use glycogen and fat.
3. Two main reasons people eat high protein while cutting: a) satiety; b) muscle sparing. It's nearly impossible to over-eat on grilled chicken....
4. If you're building muscle you need to start off at 1g/lb. Some people need more, some need less, but it is a good starting point. And you also need carbs.
5. I like the supporting facts you posted for your "amino acid pool" and "protein recycling"

My favorite part was when your pseudo-educated self couldnt manage a simple google search. Im not here to do ylour homework for you little boy, if you wish to educate yourself on something apparently so close to your interests it probably would be best to show some self initiative. But strictly for the purpose of making your other listed "points" less reputable ill post a link giving you access to basic information you and anyone else can find themselves if tnhey wish to take a 5 minute break from jerking off to amputee porn or whining about being forever alone

http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembo...roteinmet.html


Ive spent years studying this **** and reading monotonous articles covering a bunch f studies done. I dont have time nor will to pour through sources for your own convienence. What im doing here is giving you concepts based on facts ive seen and been taught

[FlexLex]

op you have provided no sources, and have no credible experience as a bodybuilder. how do you respond to this?

Honestly dont give a fukc. Im sharing information ive learned through my four years of school with you all. If you want to write it off because im not shredded go ahead, dont really care. In the end youll be he one paying for a 5 lb tub of lead based whey when you coulda ate a turkey wrap and had the same gains

[Joseph1990]

I agree with the main point of this thread. Most people think they need much more protein than they do to make gains. Friends would be telling me "pepper your angus for loss of gains" because I would only consume 120-150g protein @ 165-170lbs BW. 1g per lb of LBM is more then enough.

[_zman]

For those unaware skin is made up of a deep layer of protein fibers and a top layer of cells with protein deposits. Skin has a high amount of protein in it so damage to the skin would require immense amounts of protein to rebuild.



Im moreso talking on behalf of buying supplements ie protein powder to supplement a diet already high in protein. IMO if your protein si coming from whole foods your prolly better than half people here




6'3 185lbs for you actually keep drinkin ur shake

I've torn my rotator cuff you *******.

[FlexLex]

I will never understand why it is always the dudes with no avi or terrible physique making this thread. That alone tells me all I need to know.

Will stick to 1g/lb ty.

1g/lb bodyweight is a safe bet without overdoing it and pretty much what I outlined as a good cieling in my OP. This was geared more to the people who eat upwards of 300g a day

[Jax05]

My favorite part was when your pseudo-educated self couldnt manage a simple google search. Im not here to do ylour homework for you little boy, if you wish to educate yourself on something apparently so close to your interests it probably would be best to show some self initiative. But strictly for the purpose of making your other listed "points" less reputable ill post a link giving you access to basic information you and anyone else can find themselves if tnhey wish to take a 5 minute break from jerking off to amputee porn or whining about being forever alone

http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembo...roteinmet.html


Ive spent years studying this **** and reading monotonous articles covering a bunch f studies done. I dont have time nor will to pour through sources for your own convienence. What im doing here is giving you concepts based on facts ive seen and been taught

I'm pseudo-educated? Yet you come here posting stupid sh*t without single proof and claiming how you have studied this stuff for "years". When did you start studying, at age 15?

Pls go.

[FlexLex]

I've torn my rotator cuff you *******.

And ive gone through back surgery. WTF is your point? If you gonna call me out for not being huge as a 185lb noodle expect a little bit of pushback

[BurningWolf]

This is fake OP?

[_zman]

And ive gone through back surgery. WTF is your point? If you gonna call me out for not being huge as a 185lb noodle expect a little bit of pushback

Well, that's pretty much exactly the same thing I'm going through....

Nice logic, I could still strangle you with my left arm. Have a nice day.

[FlexLex]

I'm pseudo-educated? Yet you come here posting stupid sh*t without single proof and claiming how you have studied this stuff for "years". When did you start studying, at age 15?

Pls go.

Ill have an undergrad degree in Exercise Science and Public health with a focus on nutrition in august. So nyes, its been four years of a lot of anatomy physiology, nutrient metabolism, etc to the point where i can safely say yes ive seen a lot of scholarly literature on the subject and have been taught by many prominent individuals who have published papers on the matter. So if you want to believe im making **** up, go ahead, but gtfo my thread

[MrVeggie]

Maybe you're onto something op. My cousin has been a raw vegan for almost 8 years and hes shredded. There's no way he's hitting 100g+ of protein considering all he eats is fruits and vegetables.

[bubbletea9]

Dear OP, here are the reasons as to why it's important to consume a high-protein diet:

1) .82g of protein/lb of bodyweight seems to be the optimal amount, however there's no harm in going over and hitting 1g/lb, especially if you're getting inferior/incomplete sources of protein

2) It's satiating

3) It's muscle-sparing: higher amounts of protein (above the .82g threshhold) allows you to retain more LBM when eating at a caloric deficit (than those who consume .82g or less)

/thread

[Redfish225]

So far today opie

4 eggs
Two wheat toast
16 oz low fat milk
20 oz water
Slab of seafood lasagna
Brownie of peace with nuts
33 oz water
2 scoops optimum banana cream whey with milk

Still have mid afternoon meal then dinner

[Bignate65]

Thanks for providing peer reviewed sources to support your information op. Here, have this rock

[SaliorUSN]

120g-150g protein a day checkin in. IMO protein are just good for satiety when cutting. 120g protein and 75g of fat and fill the rest of your macros with whatever you like.

this, i have been eating like that for a long time now, might have one shake per day, that's if i am making some protein pancakes, cakes, or cookies, other than that i get about 90-100g from diet alone.For a female, that is more than enough. My protein powder lasts me up to 4-6 months.
It seems only the sup companies push the 1-1.5g for bw of protein... hmm i wonder why

[s2pid]

I probably eat 70g total protein in a day

[lolhey]

1g per bodyweight when bulking, more when cutting for satiety and to keep fats lower. why complicate things.

[Brbsquattin]

I think I'll stick with my getting my advice from powerlifting coaches and acclaimed power lifters who have decades of training experience. Guys who have actually tested and tried through years upon years of different diets. If my strength coach, who has squatted 1000 lbs in competition, tells me I need a least 1g per pound then I am going to listen to him and not some ******* who has been lifting for 6 months and did some "research" on google. 225 lb bodyweight checking in. I get at least 180g from food, and usually drink a shake per day.

*******.

[frank112]

The only people I see eating more than 1g per lb bodyweight of protein are cell-techers who don't know what the phuck they're doing but gain mass by lifting a 5lb dumbbell for 2 hours.

[NickTammerine]

came in expecting no avi.

[eriksatie]

120g-150g protein a day checkin in. IMO protein are just good for satiety when cutting. 120g protein and 75g of fat and fill the rest of your macros with whatever you like.

^this

I only eat above 150g for satiety. Plus protein shakes are actually relatively cheap.

[biggoron]

No, if you eat a good ratio of carbs to proteins to unsaturated fats your doing it right. Honestly 3ox of chicken is fukcing nothing. I csan chew through 1-2lbs of chicken breast without batting an eyelash. Buy a lb of chicken at the store, cook it up, and you realize how little of a morsel 1lb is.

It's not like you'll ever get tired of eating a pound of chicken every day right op?

[BlazerINtheWork]

going to post my experience, feel free to agree or disagree, just putting it out as food for thought.

skipping wall of text

Cliffs-

-use to eat 250-300g of protein a day
-seen arguments like op's over and over
-decided fuk it, I will try it out (I've done this for many things over the years, how else do you know what works for you?)
-worked my way down on protein, as I raised carbs and fats to keep my calories the same
-making gains, feel great, cheaper


currently at 200g workout days, 170/180 off days. still kinda high to some but I work physical job(s). NOT saying this is the end all be all, just saying I tried, liked it, wentbetterthanexpected.jpg

[Brbsquattin]

The only people I see eating more than 1g per lb bodyweight of protein are cell-techers who don't know what the phuck they're doing but gain mass by lifting a 5lb dumbbell for 2 hours.

You weigh less than 150 lbs lmao. Also, what do you mean by the only people you see? Like you actually have any idea what other people's diets are like. Brb you keep a log of how much protein everybody in your gym takes

[TheBiG_Z]

No.

[whiterice77]

Isn't ON regulated on content of whey protein?

[TheSlash]

150 grams of protein, 100 grams of fat. some trace carbs. I dont freak if my protein drops to 100g or so.

Gotta love keto, have to keep protein under fat intake.

Tips to easy bulking or cutting: Keto and IF

[bongd]

Been tapering down my protein hardcore over the last few years. To the point where I just eat one meal a day with an abundance of protein (red meat, poultry, eggs or seafood) and after that it's all good. No need for such a high amount of protein. I used to think it was just grannies that worried about the kidneys, but renal issues are real and it'd sure make a fool out of anyone who got hurt by slamming too many protein shakes.

Just eat real food and that's all you need. A little caffeine and maybe arginine pre workout. Ephedrine for cutting. Bike parts if you want to look exceptional, etc... I really wish I didn't waste so many thousands of dollars on supplements. Used to polish off like 10lbs of protein powder a month on top of 300-400g of protein from meat. I want to barf thinking about those days.

[Brbsquattin]

Isn't ON regulated on content of whey protein?

Yes optimum nutrition is a legit company. That's why the only protein I buy is pro complex. You are getting exactly what it says you are getting

[Surive123]

Oh,



It's this thread again.